May 28, 2024 Regular City Council Meeting

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, ON THIS BEAUTIFUL 28TH DAY OF MAY OF 2024.

SO EXCITED TO HAVE OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING TODAY WITH OUR NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

TO BEGIN WITH, WE WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 1:00 P.M., PROMPTLY COME OUT AT 1:30, HOPEFULLY TO A WORK SESSION AND THEN BEGIN OUR REGULAR AGENDA AT 2:00 P.M.. SO AT THIS TIME, CITY COUNCIL WILL HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSULTING WITH CITY STAFF REGARDING THE FOLLOWING.

[1. Executive Session]

AT THIS TIME, CITY COUNCIL IS IN RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

COUNCIL IS BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT IS 1:30 ON THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY OF MAY 28TH OF 2024, AND WE ARE MOVING AFTER RECONVENTION FROM CHAMBERS.

[1. Meadowbrook Golf Course Management]

TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION FOR THE COUNCIL.

NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A PRESENTATION BY OUR PARKS AND RECREATION ON THE MEADOWBROOK GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT.

AND AS I SAID, OFF THE RECORD, COLBY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

YOU LOOK LOVELY IN YOUR SUIT AND TIE.

AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, SIR.

OH, HERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

LIKE YOU SAID, I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT MEADOWBROOK GOLF COURSE.

I WILL JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF KIND OF HISTORY OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND THEN START WORKING AT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO AND UP TILL TODAY, AS FAR AS WHAT THE ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA.

AND SO, AS YOU MAY KNOW, MEADOWBROOK GOLF COURSE IS OWNED BY THE CITY.

IT IS CURRENTLY BEING LEASED BY AN OUTSIDE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, ARCUS GOLF.

THIS HAS BEEN A CONTRACT THAT HAS WAS STARTED IN 1994.

IT WENT THROUGH SIX, FIVE YEAR TERMS. AND SO IT IS GOING TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024.

IN THAT CURRENT AGREEMENT, ARCUS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF GOLF COURSE OPERATIONS AND SO THEY INCLUDE THE SALARIES.

THEY INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF CAPITAL STRUCTURE THAT MIGHT OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE DONE.

AND BASICALLY THE CITY GETS 10% OF ALL GOLFING REVENUES OFF OF THAT.

AND SO DIRECT DAY TO DAY MANAGEMENT IS RAN BY THEM WITH VERY LITTLE OUTSIDE FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THIS THIS AGREEMENT IS COMING TO A CLOSE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO IN FEBRUARY STAFF STARTED WORKING ON WRITING OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ON TO HAVE ANOTHER EITHER WE HAD TWO OPTIONS THAT WE PUT OUT THERE, A LEASE OPTION VERY MUCH LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW OR A MANAGEMENT OPTION.

AND WE DID WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT CAME BACK AND WANTED TO DO THE LEASE OPTION.

AND SO WE NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH JUST THE MANAGEMENT OPTIONS.

AND SO WE IN THAT PROCESS WE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS.

WE HAD A STAFF REVIEW OF THOSE WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ONES.

GRADED THOSE OUT.

WE GRADED THOSE OUT, AND THE THREE COMPANIES THAT CAME TO OUR SHORT LIST WERE ORION MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS, LANDSCAPES GOLF MANAGEMENT, AND ELITE GOLF.

AND SO AT THAT TIME, WE STARTED TO NEGOTIATE WITH ORION GOLF.

ORION MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE'VE COME TO A PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT PENDING THE OUTCOME OF Y'ALL'S VOTE TODAY.

I'VE GOT SHANE GARDNER HERE WITH ORION MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS.

THEY'RE OUT OF CARROLLTON, TEXAS.

HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, SO FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY POINT.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ORION IS THEY SPECIALIZE IN GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT.

THEY HAVE A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF REALLY WORKING AND I THINK WHAT REALLY BROUGHT THEM TO THE FOREFRONT FOR US IS THAT THEY HAD MANAGEMENT, THEY HAD EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH SIMILAR SITUATIONS THAT WE ARE IN.

THEY ARE OUT OF CARROLLTON.

AND I WENT TO VISIT THAT COURSE AND IT'S VERY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION AROUND IT.

AND SO PROVIDING THAT BEST VALUE WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IS THAT THE COURSE WASN'T ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK OF THE COLONIAL OR WE THINK ONE OF THOSE HIGH, HIGH END COURSES, BUT IT WAS A NICE WELL RUN COURSE THAT WAS AFFORDABLE FOR GOLFERS.

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SO THAT REALLY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING FOR US.

THEY ALSO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE 36 HOLE COURSES.

AND SO IT REALLY JUST KIND OF MARRIED THAT IT WAS A WHAT WE BELIEVE AND WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO YOU IS, IS A GREAT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP.

THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT WOULD BE FOR BASICALLY A 15 YEAR AGREEMENT ONE FIVE YEAR WITH THE OPTION FOR TWO ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.

AT ANY POINT DURING THOSE WE COULD IF WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION TO BE ABLE TO GO.

AND SO THE SETUP FOR THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THE CITY WOULD CREATE AN ENTERPRISE FUND FOR THE GOLF COURSE.

AND SO BASICALLY IT SHIFTS FROM THE ARCUS WAY WHERE WE HAD LITTLE TO NO CONTROL OVER IT TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE TOTAL CONTROL FOR US AS A CITY.

ORION IS HERE TO MANAGE THIS GOLF COURSE IN THE WAY THAT WE SEE IT TO BE DONE AND THE WAY THE HOW WE FUND IT, HOW WE DO THINGS, IT'S GOING THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE IT OFF OF OUR WANTS AND NEEDS.

ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES WILL BE EMPLOYEES OF THEIRS, BUT WE WILL BE PAYING FOR IT.

AND SO EVERY BIT OF THIS WILL BE PAYING AND WE WILL PAY.

WE'LL BE GIVING THEM BASICALLY A MONTHLY FEE TO MANAGE THE GOLF COURSE FOR US.

THEIR MANAGEMENT FEE IS GOING TO BE $10,000 A MONTH.

THERE ALSO IS SOME INCENTIVES THAT COULD BE DONE FOR THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED BY THIS.

I WANT TO MAKE IT SURE THAT THERE IS A MAXIMUM AMOUNT ON THE INCENTIVE BASIS THAT WOULD BE $80,000 A YEAR.

AND SO THE WAY THAT WE SET THIS UP IS, IS BASED ON PERFORMANCE.

AND SO IF AND I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME ROUND NUMBERS, IF WE PROJECTED THAT OUR YEAR BEGINNING REVENUE WAS GOING TO BE $2.5 MILLION OF WHAT WE PROJECTED WE WERE GOING TO MAKE, AND THESE GUYS KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK, AND THEY CAME UP AND THEY MADE TO $200,000 OVER THAT.

THEN WE THE INCENTIVE FEE WOULD KICK IN ON THE $200,000 THAT WAS OVER THAT, THAT FEE.

AND SO WITH A CAP, LIKE I SAID, OF $80,000.

SO THE BETTER THAT THE GOLF COURSE DOES, THE BETTER THEY DO.

THE SERVICES WILL START KIND OF WHERE WE'RE IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD.

WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS TO START THIS CONTRACT OCTOBER 1ST.

HOWEVER, IF IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE WOULD THEN ENTER INTO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS TO GET US STARTED, TO START WORKING ON GETTING CARTS HERE, TO START WORKING ON GETTING A FLEET OF MOWERS AND GETTING THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE SETUP, GETTING THE KITCHEN EQUIPMENT ORDERED AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SO REALLY UTILIZING THE FIRST THREE MONTHS, THEY WOULD BE WORKING WITH MR. PERRY, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND, REALLY WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET THE GOLF COURSE READY TO GO TO OPEN, THEN COME OCTOBER 1ST WE WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT AND THERE WOULD BE A TRANSITION PERIOD WITH THE GROUP THAT'S IN THERE AT ARCUS.

AND SO BASICALLY THEY WOULD BE WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH ARCUS TO GET US UNTIL DECEMBER AND THEN JANUARY 1ST, AND IT BECOMES DIRECTLY UNDER US.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING ABOUT HOW THE TRANSITION PERIOD MIGHT ACTUALLY GO.

THEY WILL FOLLOW THE SAME BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE DO.

AND SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING A BUDGET.

YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET WHEN WE START GIVING YOU THE BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT YEAR COMPARED TO THE LAST ONE, THEY RAN A LITTLE BIT OFF.

THEY RAN ON A CALENDAR YEAR INSTEAD OF THAT OUR FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK TO OUR FISCAL YEAR TO RUN IT THAT WAY SO THAT THE COUNCIL DOES SEE THAT BUDGET PRIOR TO IT BEING APPROVED FOR THEM.

FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING IS AN EXPENSES OF JUST OVER 2.5 MILLION, WHICH DOES INCLUDE THEIR MANAGEMENT FEE.

WE'RE PROJECTED AT A 2.65 MILLION IN REVENUE.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE A NET OPERATING INCOME OF $126,000 IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OF COURSE, OFF OF THIS AFTER IT'S APPROVED, WE WILL SIT DOWN AND WE WILL REALLY START FINE TUNING AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT BUDGET IF WE NEED TO.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT WE WILL BE ABLE TO TURN A PROFIT IN IN YEAR ONE.

WE BASE THAT OFF OF THE ROUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLAYED.

COLLECTIVELY WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND WE'RE RIGHT AT THAT, 70,000 ROUNDS PER YEAR.

AND SO WE TOOK THAT THOSE ROUNDS CALCULATED OUT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS.

AND SO THAT REALLY GIVES THE MEAT AND BONES OF THE PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR SHANE, I KNOW WE'LL STAND UP AND ASK ANY ANSWER A NYTHING YOU WANT.

COLBY, WILL YOU GO BACK TO THE PROJECTED REVENUE OR NO.

EXCUSE ME, THE GO BACK ONE MORE, ONE MORE.

ALL RIGHT, THE TIERS. I KNOW THIS IS IN BACKUP, COUNCIL.

SO FROM THE PROJECTIONS, BASED UPON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS NOT GREAT.

AGREED? CORRECT.

IT HAS A LOT OF ROUNDS, BUT THE GROUNDS AND STUFF DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY SHOULD.

SO, SO THAT IN YOUR, IN YOUR ESTIMATION THIS COULD BE A MUCH BETTER COURSE WITH PROPER MANAGEMENT.

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CORRECT? I DO I THINK THIS IS ONE THAT THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR US, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE IF WE JUST ENTICE, YOU KNOW, DRESS UP THE AREA AS THEY'RE COMING IN, MAKE SURE THE CARTS ARE CLEAN WHEN THEY'RE GOING OUT, THAT THE YOU KNOW, THOSE LITTLE THINGS.

THAT WAS THE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS GOING UP GOING TO CARROLLTON.

WHEN I WENT THERE IT LOOKED CLEAN AND BY ALL MEANS THE STUFF THAT THEY HAD IN THEIR, RESTAURANT, THE SUPPLIES AND THE FURNITURE AND STUFF, THOSE THINGS WEREN'T LIKE THEY WERE BRAND NEW.

YOU COULD SEE THAT THOSE WERE SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE YEARS OLD, BUT IT LOOKED CLEAN.

IT LOOKED PROFESSIONAL.

IT ENTICED YOU WHEN YOU CAME IN, WHEN YOU WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR, I HAD THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE GREET ME.

THEY HAD NO IDEA WHO I WAS.

AND SO THOSE LITTLE THINGS, THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE, I REALLY THINK WILL GIVE OUR GOLF COURSE A JUMP START AND THEN SEE THAT THE PUBLIC WILL SEE THOSE THINGS, AND THEN IT'LL JUST START SNOWBALLING FROM THERE.

AND I THINK WE'LL GET BETTER AND BETTER EVERY YEAR.

SO TO THE TAXPAYER, DID THIS APPEAR THAT IF THINGS GO AS PLANNED NOW AND WE'RE HOPING THEY GET BETTER, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A TAXPAYER, A HIT TO THE TAXPAYER ON THIS BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE PROJECTED REVENUE, CORRECT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. YES, SIR I AGREE.

THANK YOU, MS. PATTERSON HARRIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, MR. COLBY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. GOT YOUR NEW TIE ON.

I SEE YOU.

[LAUGHTER] YOU TALKED ABOUT THE REMODELING OR THE REVAMPING? IN THE INTEREST PORTION.

TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

WHAT IT WILL INCLUDE, BECAUSE HAVING BEEN TO THE COURSE BEFORE, THERE WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF STUFF TO BE DONE.

AND THERE IS. AND WE REALIZE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE JUST AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS.

AS WE START SETTING UP THE COURSE, WE WANT TO SET THE COURSE UP FOR FUTURE SUCCESS.

AND SO WE'LL START WORKING ON HOW OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM IS GOING TO WORK.

AND SO THE VERY FIRST THING IS AND ORION WAS NICE ENOUGH A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT THE GOLF COURSE, TO COME DOWN AND GIVE US AN ASSESSMENT AND BE ABLE TO SAY, WHAT IS THOSE LOW HANGING FRUIT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IMMEDIATELY THAT WILL LOOK NICE WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO THE COURSE, NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE BROKEN DOWN EQUIPMENT ON YOUR LEFT HAND SIDE WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE BUILDING, IT BEING A FRESH PAINT JOB, SOME OF THOSE SMALLER THINGS THAT AREN'T GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF START UP MONEY ARE GOING TO IMPROVE OUR PRODUCT. NOW, OF COURSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO WAS, WAS BUILD TOWARDS NOT JUST TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SAY, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, $2 MILLION FOR A NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO NEED AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, BUT WE CAN BUILD OUR CAPITAL PLAN TO MEET THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE SOMETHING, A COMPLETE PLAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE DONE BEFORE WE OPEN.

NO, MA'AM. WE'LL BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AS WE GO.

AND BECAUSE I DON'T GOLF, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL THEIR MANAGEMENT INCLUDE, WHAT WILL THEY BE DOING? AND HAVING TO COMPARE SOMETHING TO WHAT WAS HOW THE COURSE WAS MANAGED BEFORE OR NOT.

TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT OF THE DAY TO DAY WORKING.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. I'M GOING TO BRING SHANE UP.

PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THE BEST OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THANK YOU. I THANK YOU FOR ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I THINK THE THINGS THAT HE HAS UP THERE AS FAR AS SERVICES TO BE PERFORMED, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THE EMPLOYEES, WE DO ALL THE TRAINING, WE FOLLOW UP WITH THEM.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT'S PROBABLY NOT BEING DONE TODAY IS NOT BEING DONE BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO INVESTMENT FOR THEM.

THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY LEAVING.

THEY'VE KNOWN THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY LEAVING FOR A WHILE.

SO THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO JUST OPERATE.

I THINK FROM OUR STANDPOINT WITH THE RESOURCES THE CITY HAS WE'LL BE ABLE TO INVEST AND KEEP THE BALL ROLLING AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NOTICE RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE OTHER THING AND THEN I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY.

YOU TALKED ABOUT MR. COLBY, YOU TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVES.

IF THEY REACH A CERTAIN TIER, A CERTAIN LEVEL, AND THAT THE MAX OF THAT IS $80,000, HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND IS THERE I DON'T WHAT WILL WHAT CAN THOSE INCENTIVES BE USED FOR? WELL, THE IT'S A WIN WIN IN A SITUATION THAT I HOPE THAT WE'RE PAYING ORION $80,000 EVERY YEAR AT THE END OF THE INCENTIVE, THAT MEANS THAT THAT OUR GOLF COURSE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AND THAT ALSO IS GOING TO BE THE BETTER WE DO, THE BETTER THE QUICKER WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE BECAUSE WE'RE SET UP IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND, THE QUICKER WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE SOME OF THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND SO WE HOPE THAT WE PAY THEM $80,000 EVERY YEAR.

AND THAT WILL BE THE THINGS THAT STARTS BUILDING THAT CAPITAL PRODUCT FOR US GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MRS. PATTERSON HARRIS. MS. MARTINEZ GARCIA.

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THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND YOU DID MENTION IRRIGATION.

AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR SHANE, ACTUALLY.

SHANE. YES.

HOW WELL HAVE YOU GOTTEN TO KNOW THE CONDITIONS OF THE WEATHER, THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH WATER? HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN ALL IN WHAT YOU KNOW AND WHAT WE HAVE OUT HERE? WELL, WE DID A PRETTY EXTENSIVE REPORT BACK IN, I THINK, 2022.

AND WE LOOKED AT IRRIGATION, NOT JUST THE WATER THAT YOU ALL ARE USING AND THE SALT CONTENT IN THE WATER, BUT WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND THE HEADS TO DELIVER THAT.

AND YOU'VE GOT SOME, CHALLENGES THERE, BUT THERE ARE NOT CHALLENGES THAT CAN'T BE OVERCOME.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER GOLF COURSES, THERE ARE OTHER GOLF COURSES THAT DON'T SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO I THINK THEY CAN BE OVERCOME.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON FOR THE CURRENT COMPANY TO INVEST THE TIME OR MONEY IN DOING THAT, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. AS FAR AS CUSTOMER SERVICE, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT EVEN WHEN I GO GOLFING AND I DEAL WITH BAD CUSTOMER SERVICE, I FORGET ABOUT THAT.

AND I GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FOCUS ON THE GROUNDS.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO HEAR YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT.

WELL, I THINK I WAS ALWAYS BROUGHT UP AND I'VE DONE THIS REALLY SINCE I WAS 23 YEARS OLD, AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF YEARS BEHIND ME.

YOUR FIRST AND LAST IMPRESSION WHEN YOU WALK UP TO THE CLUBHOUSE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MEET, HOW YOU'RE GREETED, YOU GO OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.

IF THE GOLF COURSE IS IN GOOD SHAPE, IF THE GOLF COURSE IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE, LET'S SAY THAT YOU'RE PLAYING AND THE GREENS ARE NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.

WHAT YOU START TO DO THEN IS YOU START TO LOOK AT THE TEES AND YOU START TO LOOK AT THE ROUGH AND YOU START TO LOOK AT OTHER AREAS AND THEN YOU START TO NOTICE THINGS.

BUT I THINK YOU WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON YOUR PLAYING CORRIDORS AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE GOOD, AND YOU WANT TO CONCENTRATE ON YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THE AMENITIES THAT YOU OFFER. AND RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE THAT'S THERE THAT'S NOT BEING DONE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA.

MR. GLASHEEN. THANK YOU.

MY FIRST QUESTION MIGHT BE EVEN MORE OF A LEGAL QUESTION THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS PARKLAND, IT'S WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION TO SELL THE PROPERTY OR DO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY WITH IT.

IS THAT ACCURATE? I'LL GO INTO THE.

YEAH. THERE'S THERE IS.

BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S ON DEDICATED PARKLAND.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS TO DECLARE IT NOT WHERE IT WAS, NOT PARKLAND.

YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN THERE, MITCH? WHAT COLBY SAID IS 100% TRUE.

IT MUST GO BACK TO THE VOTERS FOR AN ELECTION.

YOU COULD DO IT, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FIRST.

WHAT IS THE SCALE OF THE INVESTMENT OF NEW MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED FOR THE COURSE.

IS THIS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, $1 MILLION IN NEW INVESTMENT IN THE PARK OR IN THE COURSE? WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT WITH THE REVENUE, WITH THE ROUNDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING PLAYED OUT THERE.

SO THIS PAST YEAR YOU WERE JUST ABOVE 69,000 ROUNDS WITH THIS PROJECTED YEAR BEING AROUND 72,000 ROUNDS, THE THINGS THAT AREN'T BEING OFFERED THERE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THAT RIGHT NOW THAT THEY'RE MAKING MONEY OFF THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE GIVING.

AND SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO COME IN THERE AND DO A FOOD AND BEVERAGE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND GET MORE THAN JUST A HOT DOG AND BE ABLE TO DO IT, WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS CREATE THIS TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.

AND SO THAT, YES, WE MAY NEED AN IRRIGATION YOU KNOW, SYSTEM TEN YEARS FROM NOW OR EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW.

BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS MAKE THIS WHERE WE CAN BUILD THOSE RESERVES BY ITSELF AND NOT COME FROM THE CITY TO BE AN OFFERING TO FUND THE COURSE. SO ANOTHER WAY TO PHRASE IT IS THAT THE UNDER THE NEW MANAGEMENT, THE OPERATIONS SHOULD BE ABLE TO FINANCE THEIR OWN IMPROVEMENTS.

CORRECT. THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GLASHEEN. ALSO, COLBY JUST TO POINT OUT WHICH I THINK THIS IS CONVENIENT FOR BOTH PARTIES, BUT THERE IS A TERMINATION OF 180 DAYS WITH NOTICE TO EACH PARTY. SO THINGS AREN'T YOU KNOW, WE FULLY EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WITH THIS COMPANY FOR YEARS.

FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, Y'ALL DO A GREAT JOB AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR Y'ALL COMING IN TAKING ON THIS PROJECT.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS, SOME WAYS TO GET OUT OF THIS IF THIS BECOMES AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO I THINK THAT WAS A PROBLEM IN THE PAST.

SO IT WAS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COLBY? ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA.

THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE THE 180 DAYS.

BUT IF WE WENT FURTHER IN AND WE WEREN'T CONFIDENT IN THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO GET OUT OF THAT

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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COLBY.

APPRECIATE YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ABOUT TEN MINUTES BEFORE WE WILL START OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

SO WE WILL BE IN RECESS FOR A BRIEF TEN MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT, WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL HAS BEEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY AND THEN HAD A BRIEF WORK SESSION.

NOW WE ARE MOVING TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

WELCOME, EVERYBODY HERE. WELCOME TO OUR THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE JOINING US TODAY.

FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH OUR CEREMONIAL ITEMS. AND I'M PLEASED TO HAVE MINISTER GEORGE LOOMIS TODAY WITH US.

[1. Invocation]

MINISTER LOOMIS, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD, IF YOU'D ALL PLEASE STAND FOR OUR PRAYER AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES LED BY MAYOR PRO TEM PATTERSON HARRIS.

MR. LOOMIS. THANK YOU.

IF YOU WILL PRAY WITH ME.

DEARLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU WITH A HUMBLE HEARTS.

LORD, HELP US TO SEE YOU AS A FATHER, BECAUSE IT IS YOU, LORD, YOU GOD, WHO SHOULD DIRECT OUR LIVES, NOT OURSELVES.

YES. YOU GUIDE AS A FATHER LOVES A CHILD.

LET US BE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO SUBMIT TO YOUR LOVE, TO SEE OTHERS, AND TO COUNT OTHERS MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN OURSELVES.

GOD, GREAT IS YOUR NAME AND WE PRAISE YOU.

AS IT SAYS IN THE SCRIPTURES.

MAY THE KINGS OF THE EARTH, AND ALL PEOPLES, PRINCES AND ALL RULERS OF THE EARTH PRAISE YOU.

AND SO TODAY MAY THE LEADERS AND OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE OF LUBBOCK, WE PRAISE YOU.

YOUNG MEN, WOMEN ALIKE.

OLD AND YOUNG TOGETHER.

TOGETHER UNIFIED WE BLESS YOU, LORD.

GIVE THESE MEN AND WOMEN TODAY WISDOM.

GIVE YOUR SERVANTS HERE A DISCERNING HEART TO GOVERN AND TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG.

THIS IS WHAT YOUR WISDOM LOOKS LIKE, GOD.

THE CITY OF LUBBOCK IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

AND IT'S FULL OF PEOPLE WHO LOVE YOU, GOD, AND LOVE OTHERS.

SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THIS CITY AND WE ASK FOR THOSE CONTINUED BLESSINGS.

WE ASK SPECIFICALLY THAT THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE BE BENEFITED AND VALUED IN OUR MEETING TODAY. BECAUSE WHAT MAKES US GOOD SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE OF LUBBOCK IS THAT WE ARE SERVANTS FOR YOU FIRST.

AND IN THE NAME OF JESUS LORD, LET US SEEK FIRST YOUR KINGDOM, BECAUSE JESUS SAID IT IS BETTER TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.

HE TOLD US TO GIVE EVEN OUR SHIRTS OFF OUR BACKS IF NEEDED.

TO GO NOT JUST ONE MILE WITH PEOPLE, BUT TO GO TWO.

AND JESUS WENT MORE THAN TWO MILES.

HE WALKED TO THE CROSS FOR US.

AND SO MAY THE LEADERS HERE FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON.

THE GODLY EXAMPLE THAT HE LEFT FOR US.

AND IT'S IN HIS NAME THAT WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

YOU REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN WITH US AS WE OFFER THE PLEDGE TO THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS FLAG.

[2. Pledges of Allegiance]

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN TO MINISTER LOOMIS FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.

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[5. Citizen Comments - According to Lubbock City Council Rules, any citizen wishing to appear in-person before a regular meeting of the City Council, regarding any matter posted on the City Council Agenda below, shall complete the sign-up form provided at the meeting, no later than 2:00 p.m. on May 28, 2024. Citizen Comments provide an opportunity for citizens to make comments and express a position on agenda items. ]

I'M SURE WE'LL MAKE UP FOR THAT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO THE MINUTES.

[6. Minutes]

I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 6.1.

THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA.

SECOND. THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 6.1, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, 6.1 CARRIES 7 TO 0.

WE ARE NOW MOVING TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS TIME HAS LISTED 7.1 THROUGH 7.21.

I BELIEVE ON 7.1 NEED A BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK INTO SOME ISSUES UNDER 7.1.

[1. Budget Ordinance Amendment 2nd Reading - Finance: Consider Budget Ordinance No. 2024-O0069, Amendment 23, amending the FY 2023-24 Budget for municipal purposes respecting the General Facilities System Improvements Capital Project Fund; providing for filing; and providing for a savings clause.]

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. GLASHEEN TO MOVE 7.1 TO THE JUNE 11TH, WHICH IS OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING, JUNE 11TH TO 2024, TO ALLOW MORE TIME TO DO A BIT MORE INVESTIGATIVE WORK ON THAT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU.

IS THAT BRAYDEN, MR. ROSE? THANK YOU, MR. ROSE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL? FIRST OF ALL, ANY DISCUSSION ON 7.1? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF MR. GLASHEENS MOTION TO MOVE 7.1 TO DATE CERTAIN JUNE 11TH OF 2024, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 7.1 WILL BE RESCHEDULED TO JUNE 11TH OF 2024.

THAT LEAVES US WITH 7.2 THROUGH 7.21 INCLUSIVE FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[7. Consent Agenda - Items considered to be routine are enacted by one motion without separate discussion. If the City Council desires to discuss an item, the item is removed from the Consent Agenda and considered separately.]

SO MOVED. THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA.

SECOND. THANK YOU, DR. WILSON.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 7.2 THROUGH 7.21 PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUSIVE OF 7.1 CARRIES 7 TO 0.

I'M SORRY, CHRISTY. DO YOU HAVE THAT MOTION THERE? ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE UNDER 8.1.

[1. Board Appointments - City Secretary: Consider appointments to the Lubbock Reese Redevelopment Authority Board of Directors.]

MR. MAYOR. MS. PATTERSON HARRIS.

I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL DAY CERTAIN THAT BEING THE NEXT JUNE 25TH. THAT'S CORRECT, MR. JARRETT, JUNE 25TH OF 2024.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MAYOR PRO TEM PATTERSON HARRIS TO MOVE 8.1 TO DATE, CERTAIN JUNE 25TH TO 2024 FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER BOARD MEETING FOR REESE IN THAT TIME FRAME.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND ON 8.1? THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF MOVING 8.1 BOARD APPOINTMENT TO DATE CERTAIN 6/25 OF 24, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

WE WILL MOVE 8.1 TO JUNE 25TH.

ALL RIGHT. LOT GOING ON ON JUNE 25TH.

OKAY. SO NOW WE MOVE TO 8.2.

[2. Board Appointments - City Secretary: Consider appointments of City Council Members to the South Plains Association of Governments (SPAG) Board.]

YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OUR SOUTH PLAINS ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE SPAG BOARD. THAT WOULD BE DAVID GLASHEEN TO REPLACE MARK MCBRAYER.

BRAYDEN ROSE TO REPLACE STEVE MASSENGALE AND THEN TIM COLLINS TO REPLACE LATRELLE JOY.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION PROPOSED BY DOCTOR WILSON FOR THOSE THREE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SPAG BOARD.

IS THERE A SECOND. SECOND.

THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THOSE APPOINTMENTS UNDER 8.2, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. NOT ONE OF YOU OPPOSED YOUR APPOINTMENT TO SPAG.

ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO 8.3 AND 8.4.

[3. Ordinance (Single Reading) - Finance: Consider approval of an ordinance providing for the issuance of City of Lubbock, Texas, General Obligation Bonds, in one or more series, in a principal amount not to exceed $70,000,000, for the purpose of paying the costs of acquiring, constructing and reconstructing street improvements, including but not limited to sidewalks, utility line relocation and traffic signalization, necessary and related storm drainage facilities and the acquisition of land and rights-of-way therefor; levying a tax in payment thereof; providing for the award of the sale thereof in accordance with specified parameters; approving an official statement; approving execution of a purchase contract; and enacting other provisions relating thereto.]

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THANK YOU. THANKS, MAYOR.

IT WAS A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME.

SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

THIS IS THE FINAL ACTION IN THIS DEBT ISSUANCE PROCESS.

I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE NEW ON THIS, SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, THIS ACTION IS CALLED THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE.

AND THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES BY THE COUNCIL THE CITY TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY SELL THESE TWO SERIES OF BONDS.

THIS IS A, LIKE I SAID, A LITTLE BIT OF A LENGTHY PROCESS.

SO WHAT WE DO IN THIS AND WHAT YOU'LL FIND HERE IN A FEW MONTHS, SHORT MONTHS IS IN EVERY BUDGET PROCESS, WE IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT MAY NEED TO BE ISSUE FUNDED WITH DEBT.

SO IN THE BUDGET APPROVAL PROCESS, CITY MANAGER AND, AND THE FINANCE STAFF WILL BRING THOSE FORWARD TO YOU.

THOSE PROJECTS WILL EXPLAIN THEM AND WE GO THROUGH THOSE.

SO ONCE THAT IS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET WE IMMEDIATELY TURN AROUND WITH THAT FIRST ACTION IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE ISSUE WHAT IS CALLED A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, ALLOWING US TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THOSE PROJECTS, KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEBT FINANCED LATER, ALLOWING US TO REPLENISH OUR CASH WITH WITH THOSE BOND PROCEEDS.

THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

FOR WHAT IS CALLED THE NOTICE OF INTENT.

THIS NOTICE OF INTENT IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO GO OUT AND PUBLISH A NOTIFICATION THAT SAYS, HEY, THE CITY OF LUBBOCK IS LOOKING TO ISSUE THOSE BONDS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR FIVE WEEKS IN A IN THE NEWSPAPER, ON THE WEBSITE.

MAKING SURE THAT THAT ALL THE LEGAL POSTINGS ARE, ARE DONE AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

IF WE HAVE NO OBJECTION WITHIN THAT FIVE WEEKS, WE COME BACK TO YOU FOR WHAT IS TODAY'S ACTION, WHICH IS THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE, WHICH TELLS THE CITY WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO ACCORDING TO THE TO THE PARAMETERS WITHIN THAT ORDINANCE TO SELL THESE BONDS.

SO TODAY BEFORE YOU YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ORDINANCES.

THE FIRST IS FOR YOUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

THESE WERE AUTHORIZED IN THE BY THE BY THE VOTERS IN THE 2022 STREET BOND ELECTION.

SO PART OF THAT $200 MILLION, WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ISSUE TODAY OR IN THIS NEXT WEEK IS ABOUT $64.1 MILLION OF OF THAT FUNDS.

THE SPECIFIC STREETS THAT ARE THAT ARE UNDERGOING CONSTRUCTION AND THAT ARE 34TH STREET.

UPLAND AND MILWAUKEE.

UPLAND AVENUE 34TH TO 50TH.

MILWAUKEE. NORTH CITY LIMITS TO FOURTH STREET AND 146TH STREET.

QUAKER TO INDIANA.

SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.

WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUANCES IN THERE FOR SOME DESIGN RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION, SOME PLANNING ITEMS IN THAT AS FAR AS THE THE COES, THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, THOSE ARE AUTHORIZED AT THE LEISURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL THEMSELVES.

AND WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO, TO ACTUALLY ISSUING THE DEBT FOR THAT'S THE SECOND TRANCHE OR THE SECOND ISSUANCE OF THE TRANSFER STATION, THE CELL CONSTRUCTION FOR THE WEST TEXAS REGIONAL DISPOSAL FACILITY.

AND THEN TWO STORM WATER PROJECTS UPLAND AVENUE, 66TH STREET, PLAYA DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND PLAYA LAKE 54 LATERAL EXTENSION ON THOSE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS. SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT COMPRISE WHAT WE EXPECT TO BE THE $30.9 MILLION OF ACTUAL PROJECT FUNDS.

TODAY WITH ME, I'VE GOT MATT BOLES AND JULIE MCMILLAN WITH RBC CAPITAL MARKETS.

THEY ARE OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.

THEY'LL GO A LITTLE BIT OVER THE MARKET AND WHAT WE EXPECT OUT OF THIS ISSUANCE NEXT WEEK, IF APPROVED TODAY.

ALSO HAVE OUR BOND COUNSEL, MR..

JERRY KYLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THIS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TO MATT.

GOOD AFTERNOON MATT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MR. ATKINSON.

HELLO. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

ALL NEW FACES.

AND I'M PROBABLY A NEW FACE TO YOU.

MANY OF YOU. ANYWAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU ALL.

SO WE SERVE AS YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

AND WHENEVER YOU ALL DO A DEBT ISSUANCE, WE GET CALLED IN TO WORK WITH MR. COSTELLO AND MR. ATKINSON AND THEIR STAFF.

AND IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO DO THAT.

AND I WISH YOU WELL IN HIS NEXT ENDEAVOR AS WELL.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I KNOW IT'S I NEED TO BE BRIEFED TODAY, BUT I DO LIKE TO GO THROUGH WHERE THINGS STAND IN THE MARKETPLACE.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIMING PRELIMINARY NUMBERS AROUND THE STRUCTURE OF THE FINANCING SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT INTEREST RATES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE.

AS WE GET THIS ALL FINALIZED, BLUE DID A GREAT JOB OF OUTLINING THE PROCESS.

WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL REPORT THAT SHOWS YOU EXACTLY WHERE THINGS ENDED UP, SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO CONSIDER AND PASS ALONG AS YOU NEED TO.

SO THAT IS INTERESTING.

WHAT JUST POPPED UP THERE? I'VE. THE DATA ON THE RIGHT TOP HAND DIDN'T TRANSLATE WELL, SO I'M GOING TO PIVOT AND DO SOMETHING ELSE HERE.

THE BOXES WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP THERE, SO I ALWAYS JUST LIKE TO START OFF WITH GENERALLY WHERE YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE OPENED YOUR NEWSPAPER OR TURNED ON YOUR RADIO, THERE'S

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AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S TWO MAJOR THEMES.

THERE'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF RESILIENCY IN THE US ECONOMY AS MEASURED BY GDP.

THOSE MEASURES HAVE BEEN VERY ROBUST, STRONGER THAN THEY WOULD HAVE EXPECTED SIX MONTHS AGO EVEN.

AND THEN SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, INTEREST RATES I THINK STILL ARE AT OR NEAR LEVELS THAT ARE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE MORTGAGE WORLD.

SO DON'T THINK ABOUT BUYING A HOME.

RIGHT NOW. I'M TALKING ABOUT AND CORPORATE SECURITIES, MUNI SECURITIES AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY THEIR EXPECTATIONS AROUND WHAT THEY BELIEVE INFLATION HAS DONE AND THE FED'S ABILITY TO WORK WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS TO CONTROL THAT. AND THEY BELIEVE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THEY BELIEVE THEY'VE DONE THAT.

THEY HAVE A POLICY GOAL OF MEETING 2% INFLATION.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET. THE LAST LITTLE BIT IS ALWAYS THE HARDEST TO SQUEEZE OUT.

AND I THINK THEY'RE WORKING HARD TO GET THERE.

BUT IT WON'T BE WITHOUT BUMPS IN THE ROAD.

I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT A MINUTE ABOUT YOUR MARKETPLACE, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO TOWARDS GETTING TOWARDS THAT 2% POLICY GOAL.

AND I THINK THAT WILL PLAY OUT THROUGH THE BALANCE OF 2024.

THIS NEXT PAGE IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THE MARKET THAT WE USE YOU YOUR OBLIGATIONS IN THE US MUNICIPAL BOND MARKET.

TWO GRAPHS HERE THAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON.

IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND QUADRANT IS YIELD CURVES.

SO THIS IS MMD.

THIS IS MY DOW JONES.

I GET THIS READ EVERY SINGLE DAY.

IT GOES FROM ONE YEAR TO 30 YEARS.

IT'S A IT'S A TRIPLE A INDEX.

SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHERE YOU ALL WOULD BORROW.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THE POINT IS THAT YOU'VE GOT THREE LINES HERE, ONE OF WHICH IS THE 15 YEAR AVERAGE AND THE PURPLE LINE.

AND THEN WHERE WE WERE A YEAR AGO AND THE LIGHTER SHADE BLUE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THE AND THE YELLOW LINE.

SO WE'RE JUST ABOVE THE 15 YEAR AVERAGE.

BUT DO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE LAST 15 YEARS WE'VE HAD INCREDIBLY LOW RATES OF INTEREST.

SO THIS IS NOT A BAD PLACE FOR US TO BE.

WE WE HAVE A MARKET THAT'S MARKED BY THE SAME LEVELS OF VOLATILITY THAT YOU SEE IN THE EQUITY MARKETS.

IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT, PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS PUBLICIZED.

SO YOU DON'T HEAR THAT MUCH ABOUT IT.

BUT OUR JOB THROUGH THESE PARAMETER ORDINANCES THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER TODAY IS TO FIND THE RIGHT POINT IN TIME WHERE THERE'S RELATIVE STABILITY AND AN APPETITE FOR THE ISSUANCES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN THE MARKET, SO THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE AUDIENCE TO GET THE RATE THAT YOU NEED.

SO IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER, WE'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT SUPPLY TO PREVIOUS COUNCILS, TO THE MAYOR, TO OTHERS IN THIS ROOM.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF SUPPLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE TURNED THE CORNER A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

WE'VE GOT MORE SUPPLY IN OUR MARKET.

OUR MARKET'S BEEN REALLY HUNGRY FOR THAT.

MOST OF IT IS HIGH GRADE SUPPLY.

SO HIGHER, HIGHER RATED CREDITS, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT YOUR RATINGS IN JUST A MINUTE.

SO I THINK THE MARKET IS WORKING AS IT SHOULD.

AND AND WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A GOOD SPOT WHEN WE GET READY TO PUT YOUR TRANSACTIONS IN.

SKIP A COUPLE PAGES JUST TO REMIND YOU.

AND THIS IS ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BROADENING OUR SCOPE.

WE GET SO MYOPIC ABOUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND WHERE RATES ARE TODAY AND NEXT WEEK, AND JUST TO BACK OUT A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT 30,000FT AND THIS MAY BE MORE THAN 30,000FT, BECAUSE THIS IS 65 YEARS OF HISTORY HERE, BUT OR 63 YEARS OF HISTORY THIS GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1961. AND THIS IS ANOTHER INDEX THAT IS VERY POPULAR IN THE MUNICIPAL BOND WORLD, CALLED THE BOND BUYER INDEX.

IT'S PUBLISHED ONCE A WEEK, AND THE INDEX RATE THIS WEEK IS 390.

I CAN'T SEE THAT NUMBER. IT'S PRETTY SMALL UP THERE.

BUT THE POINT IS THAT 393 THE INFORMATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OF THE PAGE TELLS US EVERYTHING.

I REALLY WANT TO THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE, AND THAT IS THAT 75% OF THE TIME SINCE 1961, RATES HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN THEY ARE NOW.

SO, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, OVER A BROAD SWATH OF TIME, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BE A BORROWER.

IF YOU NEED TO BE BORROWING MONEY IN THE IN THE MUNI MARKET.

BLUE SPOKE TO THE PROJECTS, WE DID WANT TO OUTLINE THEM HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF NARRATIVE AT THE TOP WITH RESPECT TO WHEN THESE OBLIGATIONS WERE VOTED FROM THE GEO STANDPOINT AND THEN THE PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY ARE OUTLINED BELOW. I'M HAPPY TO CALL HIM BACK UP HERE IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE.

THE PLAN OF FINANCE STARTS WITH THE SUMMARY OF ASSUMPTIONS.

JULIE AND I SIT DOWN WITH BLUE AND GO THROUGH THIS TO MAKE SOME CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES AS TO WHERE WE THINK THINGS WILL ULTIMATELY SHAKE OUT.

THESE ARE 20 YEAR OBLIGATIONS.

THEY ALL HAVE A TEN YEAR OPTIONAL PAS CALL SO THAT YOU CAN REFINANCE THOSE IF RATES GO LOWER, OR YOU CAN PREPAY THEM IF YOU SHOULD SO DESIRE.

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AND THEN THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH RESPECT TO THE GEOS AND THE CERTIFICATES AND WHAT HAS TO BE MET FOR US TO EFFECTUATE THIS TRANSACTION. NOW, THE THE FIRST BUMPER IN ALL OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MARKET'S IN A GOOD, SOLID PEACE POSITION BEFORE WE, WE GET READY TO TRANSACT.

THE SECOND PIECE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT IN BLUE'S ABSENCE.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY, I BELIEVE, TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR THE CITY MANAGER.

AND SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING AS, AS APPROPRIATE THERE.

THESE OBLIGATIONS WILL BE SOLD WITH TWO RATINGS.

TRIPLE A FROM FITCH.

I'M SORRY. BACK UP, DOUBLE A PLUS FROM FITCH AND DOUBLE A PLUS FROM S&P.

ON THIS NEXT PAGE, WE'VE CUT OUT SOME OF THE NARRATIVE FROM EACH OF THE REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN LET BY S&P AND FITCH JUST ABOUT THE PROCESS.

AND I DO WANT TO THANK BLUE AND AMBER AND JARRETT AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

THIS IS A PART INTERVIEW, PART INFORMATION EXCHANGE.

AND THERE'S A THIRD PART THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE WAITING ON THEM TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BEING AVAILABLE WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE THERE.

IT IT'S EXTENSIVE AND DEEP, AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLY GOOD JOB OF MANAGING THIS PROCESS YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT A SNAPSHOT.

IT'S ABOUT A BOOK, YOU KNOW, AND THE BOOK IS TELLING A REALLY GOOD STORY.

AND I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH OF THE PIECES HERE.

YOU CAN READ SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT YOU HEAR THINGS LIKE VERY STRONG MANAGEMENT STRONG FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES SOLID RESERVES, GROWING POPULATION, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE.

SO HATS OFF TO THE CITY OF LUBBOCK FOR AN INCREDIBLY HIGH RATING AS DOUBLE A PLUS FROM BOTH OF THESE AGENCIES.

AND THEN I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME BRIEF NUMBERS AS TO WHERE EACH OF THESE FINANCINGS WOULD PRICE TODAY IF WE DID THEM IN THIS MARKET.

THESE ARE THE GEO BONDS.

AGAIN, IT'S A 20 YEAR AMORTIZATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE DEBT REPAYMENT SCHEDULE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.

AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE PAGE WE'VE GOT SOME STATISTICAL DATA THERE.

WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED ONE LINE IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AS SORT OF THE APR, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THIS REALLY COSTING US FROM A RATE STANDPOINT, THIS IS ALL COSTING ALL NTIC I'M SORRY, OF 4.27.

NOW WE'VE GOT 30 BASIS POINTS OF CUSHION THERE.

SO THAT NUMBER IF YOU WERE TO PRICE TODAY IS A 3.97.

SO IT'S SUB 4% MONEY.

WE'VE GOT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MARKET'S GOING TO GO.

FROM THE SECOND I LEAVE THIS LECTERN TO THE POINT IN TIME THAT WE PRICE.

SO. AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE WE'VE GOT THE CERTIFICATES AGAIN.

20 YEARS, SAME STATISTICAL DATA IN THE MIDDLE OF PAGE, ROUGHLY THE SAME RATE.

THERE'S A LITTLE THERE'S 1 OR 2 BASIS POINT DIFFERENCE THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE TRANSACTION OR WHERE PRINCIPAL VALUES FALL, BUT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY SUB 4% MONEY AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN FINALLY I'M GOING TO CAN YOU HOLD ON RIGHT THERE JUST A MINUTE, SIR.

WE HAVE SOME GUESTS COMING IN THAT I JUST WOULD LIKE US TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM TO SIT, BECAUSE I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THEM BEING HERE.

OH, OF COURSE. SO IF EVERYBODY MAY BE OVER THERE, MAYBE MOVE IN A LITTLE BIT, MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME CHAIRS FOR THEM.

ALL RIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU.

SORRY FOR THAT, MATT.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THAT AGE CATEGORY IN HERE.

IT BRINGS US AWESOME.

ALRIGHT, YOU CAN SIT IN MY CHAIR.

OKAY. WELCOME Y'ALL.

GO AHEAD. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, SIR.

NO THAT'S FINE. MAYOR, THAT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE.

LET'S SEE. THIS IS THE FINAL PAGE THAT I'LL GO THROUGH, AND I WON'T EVEN SAY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE GOT YOUR FINANCING TEAM IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PORTION OF THE PAGE.

THANKS TO BLUE FOR INTRODUCING US AND YOUR BOND COUNSEL, JERRY CAO WITH ORRICK.

ALL SORTS OF OTHER FIRMS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS YOUR UNDERWRITING SYNDICATE MADE UP OF ESTRADA, HINOJOSA, ACADEMY SECURITIES, SIEBERT AND STIEFEL. AND THEN IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND PORTION IS A BIT OF A TIMETABLE.

THE ONE THAT WE THAT WE WORK FROM IS MUCH MORE PROTRACTED AND BUILT OUT.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE IN AMONGST THESE ITEMS, BUT THESE ARE KEY DATES THE MOST IMPORTANT OF WHICH IS THE PRICING DATE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S SET FOR JUNE 5TH.

BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY BASED ON THESE ORDINANCES THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TO MOVE THAT AROUND, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF LUBBOCK. AND WE MEET THE PARAMETERS.

SO THIS IS ALL ABOUT MANAGING VOLATILITY, FINDING A GOOD PLACE IN THE MARKET AND THEN PUTTING THE TRANSACTION IN WHEN WE THINK IT'S MOST DESIRABLE FOR THE BEST RATE

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SO. WITH THAT.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MATT. OUR COUNCIL.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO TAKING EIGHT THREE AND EIGHT 4 IN 1 VOTE? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? YEAH. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

I MIGHT RECOMMEND TAKING THEM SEPARATELY.

ALL RIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH.

I'LL DO WHAT MITCH TELLS ME TO.

I DON'T ALWAYS DO WHAT MY LAWYER TELLS ME TO DO.

WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL.

I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.3.

WE'LL START WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

SECOND. THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF BLUE OR MATT OR HIS TEAM OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 8.3? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.3, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

ALL RIGHT. NOW MOVE TO 8.4.

[4. Ordinance (Single Reading) - Finance: Consider approval of an ordinance providing for the issuance of City of Lubbock, Texas, Combination Tax and Revenue Certificates of Obligation, in one or more series, in a principal amount not to exceed $34,000,000, for the purpose of paying the costs of improvements to the City’s Solid Waste Disposal System, and construction, improvements, renovations, relocations, and extensions to the City’s storm water facilities and infrastructure; levying a tax and pledging surplus water and wastewater system revenues in payment thereof; providing for the award of the sale thereof in accordance with specified parameters; approving an official statement; approving execution of a purchase contract; and enacting other provisions relating thereto.]

THANK YOU. SORRY.

WELL, DOCTOR MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA, IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT, MR. COLLINS? ALL RIGHT, MR. COLLINS, WITH THE SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS OF BLUE? MATTER. HIS TEAM ON 8.4.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.4, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, 8.4 CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

ALL RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE FOR SOME SPECIFIC PUBLIC HEARINGS WE'RE GOING TO MOVE 8.5 TO THE END BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO LET THE GO.

SO WHAT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IF YOU'RE HERE FOR 8.5 WHICH IS THE OVERTON APARTMENT COMPLEX, IF YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE A BREAK OR GO OUT UNTIL WE GET THIS OTHER ONES DONE, THEN I'LL TAKE A BREAK AND START US BACK.

OF COURSE, YOU'RE YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY HERE.

BUT IF Y'ALL WANTED TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO STEP OUT RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE START ON THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

OKAY, MAYBE A FEW.

KIRSTEN, YOU CAN'T GO.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

AND AGAIN, YOU'RE FREE TO COME AND GO.

I JUST JUST SO Y'ALL KIND OF KNOW THE PLAN.

WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK BEFORE WE START 8.5.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH 8.6.

[6. Public Hearing - Planning (District 1): Consider a request for Zone Case 3224-A, a request of Lone Star Suds, LLC for Centric Capital Partners, Inc., for a zone change from Neighborhood Commercial District (NC) and Auto-Urban Commercial District (AC) to Auto-Urban Commercial District (AC), at 2401 19th Street, located south of 19th Street and west of Avenue X, Ellwood Place Addition, Block 1, the east 140 feet of Lot 1, and consider an ordinance.]

KRISTEN WILL DO HER PRESENTATION ON ON THAT ITEM.

AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE FOR THOSE THAT ARE AGAINST AND THEN THOSE THAT ARE FOR.

AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THAT AGENDA ITEM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE KRISTEN AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND MOVE INTO DISCUSSION, WE'LL HAVE THE PROPONENTS AND THE PETITIONERS AND ALL THOSE PARTIES AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THEM.

ALL RIGHT. SO 8.6, WE'LL START WITH YOU, MISS HAGER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM 8.6 IS ZONED CASE 3224 A.

THE APPLICANT IS LONE STAR SUDS LLC FOR CENTRIC CAPITAL PARTNERS INCORPORATED.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL TO AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL.

WE SENT OUT 70 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING TWO IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF 19TH STREET, EAST OF UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

ARE Y'ALL ABLE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION? OKAY. YOU JUST HANG TIGHT.

WHO DO YOU WANT TO GET? WHO'S MY FIXER? THERE IT IS. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. PERFECT. BACK TO YOU, MISS HOEGER.

THIS IS THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE TWO RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION.

AND AS YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE STATE REQUIRED 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

COUNCIL REQUIRED A 400 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THE BLUE CIRCLE IS THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.

THE GREEN IS THE 400 FOOT BOUNDARY.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF 19TH STREET IN AVENUE X.

THERE ARE OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ALONG 19TH STREET WITH RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS A COMBINATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALONG 19TH STREET, WITH MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, ALONG WITH SOME HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

AND HERE'S SOME VIEWS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THERE WAS A FORMER RESTAURANT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING OF AUTO.

URBAN. COMMERCIAL. THE ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

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ARTERIALS ARE CONTINUOUS ROUTES WHOSE FUNCTION IS TO SERVE THE HIGH VOLUME NEEDS OF LOCAL TRAFFIC AND REGIONAL TRAFFIC.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SINGER.

ALL RIGHT THAT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.6.

AGAIN. I'LL JUST SAY THIS ONCE FOR ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU COME FORWARD, IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

WE WILL START WITH THOSE IN OPPOSITION AND THEN CONCLUDE WITH THOSE IN FAVOR.

ALL RIGHT. SO ON 8.6 THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.6.

YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF AGENDA ITEM 8.6.

YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

COUNCILMAN MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS LANDON WILLIS AND I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF LONE STAR SUDS.

AND JUST APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING CHANGE HERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS ZONED IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND BUILD A CAR WASH AT THIS SITE.

AND BUT YEAH, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT, LANDON, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU MIGHT STICK CLOSE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.6? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 8.6.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.6? THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OF OUR APPLICANT IS HERE OR OF MISS SAGER, I HAVE A QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. HI, LYNDON.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT.

YES, MA'AM. JUST WANT TO KNOW, HOW MANY CAR WASHES WILL THIS MAKE FOR LONE STAR? SO THIS WILL BE OUR WE HAVE ONE OTHER THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE TWO IN OPERATION.

ONE THAT WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN JULY.

AND THIS WILL BE OUR EITHER FOURTH OR FIFTH.

WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT ON ANOTHER SITE, SO WE MAY END UP WITH FIVE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR IS FIVE.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING AS MANY AS WE CAN IN POCKETS OF THAT, THAT THAT FIT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ARE UNDERSERVED IN AREAS THAT THAT WE FEEL THERE'S A NEED FOR A WASH.

YES, MA'AM. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE A CLEAN CAR.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY YOU PUT ONE SO CLOSE TO 50TH STREET.

YEAH, BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST ME.

NOW I HAVE OPTIONS. I GUESS ON 50TH STREET, WE HAVE ONE.

SO THAT'S. THAT'S WHERE OUR THIRD ONE WILL BE.

WE'LL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON THAT ONE IN JULY.

IT'S THE OLD PLAINS MOTOR BANK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE.

SO WE'LL HAVE ONE RIGHT THERE, AND THEN THIS ONE WILL BE UP THE ROAD A COUPLE MILES.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

MISS PATTERSON HARRIS.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M AT THE RIGHT SPOT.

THIS IS THE OLD WENDY'S.

YES, MA'AM. TALK TO ME ABOUT PATRONS GETTING ON AND OFF OF THIS PROPERTY.

YES, MA'AM. SO THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS.

THERE'S AN EXISTING CURB CUT ON 19TH STREET.

SO THE SAME CURB CUT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE.

AND THEN OFF WILL BE ON THE ON AVENUE X AND 19TH STREET.

SO, LIKE, ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, THERE'LL BE AN EXIT AS WELL.

SO THROUGH THAT SIDE STREET, THERE'LL BE BOTH IN AND OUT.

SO BOTH OFF, OFF OF 19TH WITH THE EXISTING ENTRANCE AND EXIT AND THEN AVENUE X AS WELL.

ARE ARE YOU CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE IMPACTED ON THE 19TH STREET? ENTRANCE? YES, MA'AM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY LIKE IS THAT SIDE STREET WE HAVE THE SAME LAYOUT ON OUR TWO EXISTING LOCATIONS, AND WE'RE HAVING THE SAME LAYOUT ON OUR 50TH STREET LOCATION AS WELL.

AND SO THAT SIDE STREET REALLY HELPS BOTH GETTING IN AND OUT AND OFF.

OFF OUR SITE.

WHAT ABOUT THE BACK PORTION OF ALL OF THAT PROPERTY? WHAT? TALK TO ME ABOUT THE USE OF THAT.

YEAH. VACUUMS WILL BE ON THE MOST EAST PORTION.

SO ALONG AVENUE X IT'LL BE A VERY SIMILAR LAYOUT TO OUR OTHER OUR OTHER LOCATIONS.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. PATTERSON. HARRIS. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR MISS SAGER? MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA. I'M GLAD SHEILA POINTED THAT OUT.

AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THERE IS AVENUE X, AND THEN WHAT IS THAT STREET THAT YOU START HAVING OTHER BUSINESSES WAY BEHIND.

WHAT IS THAT? SEVEN 18TH, 17TH? I THINK THEY'D BE 20 20TH AND 21ST.

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I JUST GOT A LITTLE OFF THERE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ALSO PURCHASED THAT AREA RIGHT ON THE FOR THE FULL.

SO YEAH, WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT ON FROM YES MA'AM TO TO AVENUE X IS OUR GOAL IS BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN UTILIZED.

NOW IT WILL BE. SO THAT'S EXTENDING AND GIVING YOU MORE SPACE.

YES MA'AM. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ON 8.6? MS. PATTERSON HARRIS HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.

I'M SORRY SIR.

NO PROBLEM. WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL.

HAPPY TO BE HERE. THERE ARE TWO.

INDIVIDUALS WHO SENT IN LETTERS THAT WERE ARE OPPOSED TO YOUR PROJECT.

HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THAT COMMUNITY WITHIN THAT AREA TO KIND OF HEAR FROM THEM? BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT IS ON ONE OF THE FORMS SUBMITTED.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT NO ONE LISTENING.

I HAVE NOT, AND I'M NOT.

I HAVEN'T BEEN MADE AWARE OF WHO THE APPLICANTS WERE, BUT AT OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THERE WAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE THAT DID SPEAK.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT WHAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THEM TO SAY WAS THAT I THINK THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOCAL GARDEN THAT WAS IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S A COMMUNITY GARDEN RIGHT OVER THERE.

AND SHE SAID THAT IF THE ZONING WAS ONLY FOR THIS PORTION, THAT SHE WASN'T OPPOSED AND THAT THAT WAS IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

OKAY. I'LL ASK MISS KRISTEN, DO YOU? DO YOU KNOW WHO THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS? WOULD THAT HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUBMITTED PAPERWORK? WAS IT THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION? I BELIEVE THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

SACHSE. 2322 2323 18TH.

AND THEN THERE IS A.

2306 21ST.

I DON'T KNOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS SPECIFICALLY.

I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL TRAFFIC, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT A CAR WASH WOULD BRING MORE TRAFFIC THAN A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ALL.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA UP FOR THIS.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IT WASN'T PLANNED, BUT THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PATTERSON BROUGHT UP ABOUT BEING NEIGHBORLY.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

IT IS A VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SPONSORSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER.

YES, BECAUSE NEIGHBORLY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

MR. ROSE, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK THE THE ADDRESS 2323 18TH THAT WAS AGAINST IT.

I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION THERE THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO.

THE, THE HOUSING COMPLEX, BECAUSE AT THE END IT SAYS NO MORE HOUSING IS NOT NEEDED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY REFERS TO THIS.

ALL RIGHT. IS THAT WAS THAT A QUESTION, MR. ROSE, OR ARE YOU JUST MAKING A COMMENT? JUST MAKING A COMMENT. ALL RIGHT.

MISS PATTERSON HARRIS ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? WITH THAT BEING SO, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE SITUATION.

I'M NOT SURE. BUT THERE'S STILL SOMEONE WHO IS IN OPPOSITION OF IT.

THAT IS RIGHT.

NOT FAR FROM THE ACTUAL PROJECT.

AND ANY TIME THAT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE HAVE CONCERNS, JUST FIND IT IMPORTANT FOR THERE TO BE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER THING? ANYTHING ELSE, MR. ROSE? NO. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. 8.6 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.6.

PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU. LANDON. THANK YOU, MISS SAGER.

[7. Public Hearing - Planning (District 1): Consider a request for Zone Case 3503, a request of Westar Commercial Realty for Steven F. Burleson, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Heavy Commercial District (HC), at 4505 North Interstate 27, located west of North Interstate 27, and north of Regis Street, Teal Addition, Lot 2, and consider an ordinance.]

THANK YOU. 8.7 IS ZONE CASE 30 503.

THE APPLICANT IS WEST STAR COMMERCIAL REALTY.

AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF TWO TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL HC.

WE SENT OUT 11 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING TWO IN FAVOR.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF REGIS STREET AND I 27.

THIS IS THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

AND AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT.

PROPERTY. THERE IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS TO THE SOUTH AND A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER BUSINESSES TO THE NORTH.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SF TWO.

THERE'S HEAVY COMMERCIAL IMMEDIATELY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PARK IN THE AREA.

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AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

IT DOES FRONT ONTO THE INTERSTATE.

HERE'S A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE UTILITIES IN THE AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THE ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPERTY FRONTS ON TWO NORTH INTERSTATE 27, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS A FREEWAY.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SAGER.

ALL RIGHT, NOW, I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO AGENDA ITEM 8.7.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF 8.7? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.7.

YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

KEVIN. WHAT? 5709 79TH STREET.

I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. YOU MIGHT.

STAY CLOSE. I'M SORRY.

YOU MIGHT STICK CLOSE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.7? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.7.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.7? THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ. GARCIA.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.

MR.. WHAT'S.

CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THIS AREA? WE WERE LOOKING AT A TRUCK STOP, POSSIBLY WITH A SONIC, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE OUTLINE OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE NOT 100% SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE WILL BE PUTTING A SONIC OUT THERE.

WE'RE JUST NOT SURE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

PLEASE. DID YOU HEAR WHAT I SAID? PLEASE PUT IT OUT THERE.

I KNOW THE FOLKS THERE WOULD WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, BUT NO, WHEN YOU GET OFF THE PLANE, THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD PLACE TO GET A COKE.

SO I JUST WANTED FOR THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

SURE. AND THE NEIGHBOR THAT'S RIGHT ABOVE THERE, HE SUPPORTS THE DEAL.

SO HE WANTS A LOT OF MONEY FOR HIS LAND.

YOU CAN'T GET IT IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL.

SO THANK YOU.

MR.. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.7, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 8.7 CARRIES, SEVEN ZERO.

MISS SAGER WILL NOW MOVE TO 8.8.

[8. Public Hearing - Planning (District 1): Consider a request for Zone Case 3504, a request of R Rios Enterprises 806, LLC for 5 Berg Holdings, LLC, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Heavy Commercial District (HC), at 2416, 2406, 2402 Erskine Street and 2407 Grinnell Street, located east of North University Avenue and north of Erskine Street, the north 480 feet of Tull Addition, Block 1, and approximately 3.3 acres of unplatted land out of Block A, Section 16, and consider an ordinance.]

ITEM 8.8 IS.

IN CASE 30 504, THE REQUEST IS FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM SF TWO TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL HC.

WE SENT OUT 31 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF ERSKINE, EAST OF UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

HERE IS THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE ONE PROPERTY THAT RESPONDED IN OPPOSITION WITHIN THE 400 FOOT BOUNDARY.

AND HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THERE IS AN EXISTING BUSINESS ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN OPERATING SINCE PRIOR TO ANNEXATION.

THUS THE SF2 ZONING.

IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AS TRANSITION ZONING, AND WHEN COUNCIL ADOPTED THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, THAT ZONING BECAME SF2.

THERE ARE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS TO THE WEST AND A MIX OF BUSINESSES SURROUNDING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SF2.

THERE IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL ALONG ERSKINE AND THEN LIGHT IN GENERAL.

INDUSTRIAL SURROUNDING THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A SCREENING FENCE SCREENING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY FROM UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

SO THESE PHOTOS ARE FROM NORTH UNIVERSITY.

THESE ARE FROM GRINNELL STREET.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

THIS REQUEST DOES CONFORM TO THIS DESIGNATION AND IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE LOCATION IS ALONG GRINNELL STREET AND AVENUE X, WHICH ARE DESIGNATED AS LOCAL STREETS.

NORTH UNIVERSITY AVENUE, WHICH IS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL, AND ERSKINE STREET, WHICH IS A MINOR ARTERIAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MISS ZAGER.

OUR COUNSEL. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.8.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.8? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

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YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

HI. MY NAME IS MANUEL RIOS, OWNER OF RIOS OR RIOS ENTERPRISES.

806 AND I'M JUST HERE, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. RIOS. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.8? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.8.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.8 FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS. SECOND BY MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA, I THINK, MR. ROSE. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE. SECOND, MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA.

HAVEN'T LEARNED THAT VOICE DISTINCTIONS DOWN HERE YET.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS PATTERSON? HARRIS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, MR. RIOS? RIOS.

THIS IS STANDARD OIL LOCATION, RIGHT? THE TRUCKING COMPANY.

WHAT YOU GOT GOING OVER HERE? NOTHING. WE'RE JUST. NOTHING'S CHANGING.

IT'S JUST IT'S ZONED LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY.

AND THEN IT'S BEING USED AS HEAVY.

HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR.

YEAH. AND WE JUST WANT TO GET IT.

BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE OKAY.

SO YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT.

FIX SOME STUFF BASICALLY OKAY.

SO STANDARD WILL STILL BE THERE.

YES MA'AM. BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY MAN I SAW THEM OUT THERE FIXING THE TREES AND STUFF MAN.

AND NOTHING NOTHING CHANGING.

IT'S JUST WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING IT UP TO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I NEED, MISS SAGER.

DO WE HAVE? JUST WALK US BRIEFLY BACK THROUGH.

WE'VE HAD. WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER ONE SPECIFIC.

HEARING TODAY ON ANOTHER ONE.

THERE'S SOME OF THESE WERE ZONED BEEN USED A CERTAIN WAY PARTICULAR PURPOSE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

YES. AND OUR UDC MOVED THEM OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS ONE BACK IN.

SO THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN NON-CONFORMING SINCE IT WAS ANNEXED.

SO WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED, IT WAS ZONED TRANSITION.

THEY WERE IN THE SAME SITUATION BECAUSE OUR TRANSITION DISTRICT FOLLOWED OUR ONE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY.

SO YES, IT IS CONTINUED TO BE NON-CONFORMING.

SINCE THAT TIME THEY'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATING WITH THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS.

THE ZONE CHANGE WILL BRING THEM INTO CONFORMANCE WITH OUR CURRENT CODE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON 8.8.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.8? PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU, MR. RIOS, FOR BEING HERE.

MISS SIEGHART, WE ARE NOW MOVING TO 8.9.

[9. Public Hearing - Planning (District 3): Consider a request for Zone Case 1112-F, a request of Clovis Sign Service for Southwest Convenience Stores, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Auto-Urban Commercial District (AC), at 5002 Quaker Avenue, located south of 50th Street and west of Quaker Avenue, Sylvan Dell Heights Addition, Block 1, Lot 1-A, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS CLOVIS SIGN SERVICE FOR SOUTHWEST CONVENIENCE STORES, REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY SF2 TO AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL AC.

WE SENT OUT 32 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING ONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF 50TH AND QUAKER.

HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE ONE PROPERTY IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THERE IS AN EXISTING CONVENIENCE STORE AND GAS STATION ON THIS PROPERTY, AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES ON QUAKER AND 50TH.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SF2.

THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION TO THE CASE WE JUST SAW.

WE HAVE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WITH NON-COMPLIANT ZONING.

SO THE REQUEST TO REZONE IT TO AC WILL BRING IT INTO CONFORMANCE.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL AC AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ON 50TH.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

AND HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

HERE'S THE GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH.

THIS DESIGNATION IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE LOCATION IS ALONG 50TH AND QUAKER, WHICH ARE DESIGNATED AS A PRINCIPAL AND MINOR ARTERIAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. SEEGER.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.9.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.9? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.9? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BASICALLY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THIS REZONED.

THAT WAY, THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THIS LOCATION CAN BE DONE.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M WILLING TO ANSWER THOSE.

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PERFECT. IT'S JORDAN, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.9? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.9.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.9? THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL RIGHT, DOCTOR WILSON.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.

8.9 ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS JORDAN THERE OR STAFF OR MISS SAGER? YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE OF COMPLIANCE.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.9, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

MOVING TO 8.10.

[10. Public Hearing - Planning (District 4): Consider a request for Zone Case 2925-A, a request of AMD Engineering, LLC for Diocese of Lubbock, for a zone change from High Density Residential District (HDR) to Neighborhood Commercial District (NC), generally located north of 111th Street and east of Indiana Avenue, on 4.22 acres of land out of John the Baptist Addition, Tract A, and consider an ordinance.]

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

WE SENT OUT 40 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING THREE IN FAVOR, FIVE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF INDIANA AVENUE, SOUTH OF 108TH.

HERE'S A NOTIFICATION MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTIES THAT RESPONDED IN FAVOR AND IN OPPOSITION.

AND HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THERE IS A CHURCH TO THE NORTH, RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, AND SOME OFFICES TO THE WEST.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AND AUTO URBAN, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ZONING ON INDIANA WITH SF2 AND MDR TO THE EAST AND WEST.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY LAND USES.

AND SO HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS IS A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE PORTION OF PROPERTY TO BE REZONED.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING.

HOWEVER, THE REQUESTED ZONING IS APPROPRIATE ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE LOCATION IS ALONG INDIANA AVENUE, WHICH IS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL, AND 111TH, WHICH IS A LOCAL STREET.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS SAGER.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.10.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.10? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.10? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL COREY DOOLAN WITH AMD ENGINEERING AT 6515 68TH STREET, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. COREY.

ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.10? ALL RIGHT. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.10.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.10? THANK YOU, MR. ROSE.

THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. DOOLAN OR MR..

DOCTOR WILSON. THREE.

ARE THERE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY? YES. COVENANT IS PLANNING A MEDICAL FACILITY THERE.

A CLINIC OF SORTS THERE, I BELIEVE.

IS THE PLAN.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, MISS PATTERSON.

HARRIS. I GUESS THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE OPPOSED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO SAY THAT REAL LOUD HERE IN THE COUNCIL WE REACHED OUT TO THEM.

OKAY. WE CALLED.

THOSE IN OPPOSITION WERE JUST LIKE YOU.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN WAS AND WE EXPLAINED WHAT IT WAS.

SO YOU DID CONCERN.

SO YES, WE DID REACH OUT.

WELL, WE REACHED OUT TO THE ONE THAT WE WE KNEW OF AT THE TIME.

I THINK HE OWNS SEVERAL PROPERTIES POTENTIALLY.

IS THAT CORRECT. SO OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PATTERSON HARRIS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON 8.10.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.10, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 8.10 CARRIES 7 TO 0.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO 8.11, MISS SAGER.

[11. Public Hearing - Planning (District 5): Consider a request for Zone Case 3502, a request of Hub City Main Street Investments, LLC, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family (SF-2) to Heavy Commercial District (HC), at 6708 66th Street, located west of Norwich Avenue and north of 66th Street, Zephyr Addition, Tract A, and approximately 0.56 acres of unplatted land out of Block AK, Section 35, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS HUB CITY MAIN STREET INVESTMENTS, LLC, AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM SF2 TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

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THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF 66 WEST OF MILWAUKEE.

HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTIES THAT RESPONDED IN FAVOR.

AND HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS JUST SOUTH OF FOR GOLF.

AND THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG 66.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED SF TWO.

SIMILAR SITUATION.

AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN, THERE WAS A BUSINESS OPERATING ON THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED.

NOW A NEW BUSINESS WOULD LIKE TO COME IN, SO SINCE THE USE IS CHANGING, THEY NEED TO BRING THE ZONING INTO COMPLIANCE.

THERE'S EXISTING HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PARK ALONG WITH NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THESE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WERE TAKEN PROBABLY TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HEARING, AND THEN A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING.

WE TOOK ADDITIONAL PHOTOS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS WAS ALREADY IN OPERATION.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

THE ZONE CHANGE TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THIS DESIGNATION.

THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.

WHILE NEXT TO SF2 ZONING.

THIS AREA IS ALREADY DEVELOPED AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, SO APPROVING HEAVY COMMERCIAL IN THIS LOCATION WILL NOT AFFECT THE SF2 ZONING.

THE LOCATION IS ALONG 66TH STREET, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS A COLLECTOR.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF 7 TO 1.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS HAGER.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.11.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 811? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 811? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

MARTIN MCLENDON WITH MCDOUGAL.

COMPANIES. 1500 BROADWAY.

I LIVE AT 16TH AND SALEM.

JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCLENDON.

YOU MAY STICK CLOSE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.11? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.11.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.11? THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

MR. COLLINS. MR. ROSE, Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO. I'M GONNA HAVE TO GIVE DIFFERENT DECIBELS OVER HERE.

OR MAYBE MY RIGHT EAR IS GOING BAD.

LET'S BLAME IT ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE.

ALL RIGHT, MISS MARTINEZ, GARCIA STARTS US OFF WITH A QUESTION.

MR. MCCLENDON. MISS SAGER.

MR. MCCLENDON.

ARE YOU IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH THIS BUSINESS HUB CITY? THE APPLICANT IS ONE OF MCDOUGALL COMPANIES? YES. WHY DID YOU OPERATE THE BUSINESS WITHOUT GETTING THE PROPER PERMITTING? AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A FAIR REPRESENTATION OF WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS PLACE.

THIS. THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT AS AN OUTDOOR WAREHOUSE WITH COMMERCIAL USES AND OUTDOOR STORAGE BEFORE EVEN THE MAYOR WAS ALIVE.

AND SO WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED, IT WAS ANNEXED AS T WITH ILLEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE IN THAT REGARD.

GRANDFATHERED TO THAT AS T ADDED RESIDENTIAL USES.

IN THE TEENS 20 TEENS I THINK.

AND AS WE'VE MOVED, THE CODE MOVED UNDERNEATH US.

THE USE HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL.

SO IT'S BEEN CONTINUOUS USE.

THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT TENANTS IN THAT SPACE THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUS USE ALL THAT, THAT TIME.

AND SO WE WERE JUST AS, AS WITH THE OTHER CASES, YOU KNOW, FIVE OF THE TEN CASES TODAY ARE TEED SF2 TO H OR TO SOME COMMERCIAL USE.

AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING OUR THE OVERALL ZONING ON THE PLACE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CODE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT COMMENT WAS THAT ABOUT MY AGE.

I CAN DO A GOOD FIVE MINUTES OF OUTRAGEOUS MAIER IF YOU LIKE.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR THAT, I GUESS.

DID HE HURT? ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR MISS SAGER? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MR. ROSE. THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.11, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCLENDON.

MISS SAGER, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ON 8.12.

[12. Public Hearing - Planning (District 5): Consider a request for Zone Case 2933-I, a request of Steen Realty Group at Keller Williams Realty for Terra Firma Acquisitions, LLC, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) and High Density Residential District (HDR) to Office District (OF) and Auto-Urban Commercial District (AC), at 9102 and 9602 Milwaukee Avenue, located south of 94th Street, west of Milwaukee Avenue, and north of 98th Street on 26.6 acres of unplatted land out of Block AK, Section 27, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS STEEN REALTY GROUP AT KELLER WILLIAMS REALTY.

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WE SENT OUT 128 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING SEVEN IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF 98TH WEST OF MILWAUKEE.

HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTIES THAT RESPONDED IN FAVOR AND IN OPPOSITION.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THERE IS RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, WEST AND EAST, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL AT THE CORNER OF 98TH AND MILWAUKEE.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS A MIX OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND LOW DENSITY SF2.

THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUEST IS FOR THE AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL, WITH THE NORTHERNMOST PORTION BEING REQUESTED FOR OFFICE ZONING.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR A MIX OF MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES.

SO HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS IS A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE FLOOD ZONE IN THIS AREA.

IN A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE ACREAGE FOR EACH OF THE REQUEST.

23 ACRES FOR THE AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL 3.6 FOR THE OFFICE.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR RESIDENTIAL HIGH AND MEDIUM DENSITY LAND USES IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST FOR OFFICE AND AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL ZONING.

HOWEVER, THE REQUEST IS IN MODERATE CONFORMANCE BECAUSE THE OFFICE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND THE AUTO, URBAN, COMMERCIAL AND THE AC ZONING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ALONG 98TH.

THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT IS ALONG 94TH STREET, QUINCY, 98TH AND MILWAUKEE.

THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN DESIGNATES 94TH AS A LOCAL STREET, QUINCY AS THE COLLECTOR MILWAUKEE, AND 98TH AS PRINCIPAL ARTERIALS.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS SAGER.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.12.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.12? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.12? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

HELLO, JEREMY STEIN. I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU, MR. STEEN.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.12? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.12.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.12? THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS, FOR THE HAND WAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. STEIN? I CAN PUT HIM UNDER OATH IF NECESSARY OR.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS SAGER? ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.12, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

ALL RIGHT, MISS SAGER, WE'LL MOVE TO 8.13.

[13. Public Hearing - Planning (District 6): Consider a request for Zone Case 1893-FF, a request of Delta Land Surveying for Wag 2.0, LLC, for a zone change from Medium Density Residential District (MDR) to Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2), generally located west of Homestead Avenue and north and south of 3rd Street on approximately 2.07 acres of unplatted land out of Block JS, Section 2, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS DELTA LAND SURVEYING FOR WCAG 2.0 LLC.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY SF2.

WE SENT OUT 41 NOTIFICATIONS RECEIVING ZERO RESPONSES.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF FRANKFORD, NORTH OF FOURTH.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS WOULD FINISH OUT THIRD STREET ON BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA WITH A GOLF COURSE TO THE NORTH.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THERE IS A ADJACENT MDR ZONING HEAVY COMMERCIAL, AUTO, URBAN, COMMERCIAL, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WITH THE GOLF COURSE BEING ZONED SF TWO.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR A MIX OF PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC USES AND RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR THIS AREA IS THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO THE REQUEST IS MODERATELY COMPATIBLE WITH THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.

THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THIRD STREET IS DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL STREET.

STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. EDGAR.

ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.13.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO 8.13? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

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GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JEREMY BARTMAN. I'M WITH 17 SERVICES.

I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BARTMAN.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.13? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.13.

AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE 813.

THANK YOU, MR. COLLINS. THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OF MR. VARDAMAN, MISS SEEGER, MISS PATTERSON HARRIS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MISS SAGER.

AND THIS JUST.

CAN I HAS TO DO WITH THE DESIGNATION THE LAND USES.

CAN WE GO BACK TO.

RIGHT THERE. OKAY, SO YOUR LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES ON THAT ON THIRD STREET, ONE PORTION AS ONE SIDE IS LOW DENSITY AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

IS IT BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE? THAT'S MORE THAN LIKELY.

OKAY. THIS FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANT. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR AS TO WHY THAT WAS.

THAT'S ALL. YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PATTERSON.

HARRIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MISS SAGER? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.13, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.

[14. Public Hearing - Planning (District 6): Consider a request for Zone Case 2538-LL, a request of OJD Engineering, LLC for YATESIIBY LC, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Heavy Commercial District (HC), at 7502 and 7446 19th Street, located north of 19th Street and west of Wausau Avenue, Furgeson Tracts Addition, Lot 1 and approximately 2.545 acres of unplatted land out of Block D6, Section 1, and consider an ordinance.]

THANK YOU, MR. VARDAMAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MCCLENDON.

ITEM 814.

SO IN CASE 2538 L, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM SF TWO TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

WE SENT OUT 30 NOTIFICATIONS RECEIVING ZERO RESPONSES.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF 19TH AT WAUSAU AVENUE.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THERE IS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES IN THIS AREA ALL ALONG 19TH STREET.

CURRENT ZONING IS SF2.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL ALL ALONG 19TH STREET.

SIMILAR SITUATION.

THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED ZONE TRANSITION AND THEN OVER TIME PROPERTIES HAVE COME IN TO GET THEIR ZONING ADJUSTED.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY LAND USES.

AND HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY LAND USES IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST.

HOWEVER, IT IS FRONTING ONTO AN ARTERIAL STREET, 19TH STREET, SO THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THE LOCATION ALONG 19TH STREET IS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL AND WARSAW IS A COLLECTOR.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 1.

THANK YOU, MISS SAGER.

WHAT? I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.14.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.14? YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

YEAH. I'M MICHAEL ADAMS WITH JADE ENGINEERING, AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS. ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF 8.14? ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.14.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR WILSON.

THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.14, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

ALL RIGHT, WE WILL. NOW COME BACK.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND COME BACK ON 8.5.

CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ADJOURNED FOR 15 MINUTES, A LITTLE LESS.

WE WILL START BACK AT 325.

WE'RE ON RECESS.

ALL RIGHT. IT IS 325.

I'D ASK EVERYONE TO TAKE YOUR SEATS.

[5. Public Hearing - Planning (District 1): Consider a request for Zone Case 2016-E, a request of Parkhill for Thomas Kenneth Abraham, for a zone change from Medium Density Residential District (MDR) to High Density Residential District (HDR), at 2401 through 2413 14th Street and 2402 through 2416 15th Street, located east of University Avenue and south of 14th Street, Overton Addition, Block 102, Lots 1 through 7, Lots 17 through 24, the portion of alley between Lots 1 through 7, and Lots 18 through 24, and consider an ordinance.]

JUST AGAIN, I KNOW MANY OF YOU HERE KNOW MANY OF YOU HERE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.

SO JUST A REMINDER, WE WILL DO OPPOSITION AND THEN IN FAVOR, I WOULD ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR POINTS.

NOT BELABOR THE POINTS OF OTHERS.

SO IF YOU MAKE YOUR POINTS, IF SOMEONE HAS MADE THAT POINT, RESPECT OTHERS TIME SO THEY CAN MAKE SOME POINT THOSE POINTS AS WELL.

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LET'S BE RESPECTFUL TO BOTH SIDES.

I KNOW YOU ALL WILL DO THAT.

I'M JUST REMINDING EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IF THERE'S NEW PARTIES.

ALL RIGHT, SO, MISS SAGER, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.5.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

ITEM 8.5 IS ZONE CASE 2016 E.

THE APPLICANT IS PARK HILL.

FOR THOMAS KENNETH ABRAHAM.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

WE SENT OUT 99 NOTIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED 192 IN FAVOR, 156 OF THOSE OUTSIDE THE 400 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY, 187 IN OPPOSITION. AS OF RIGHT NOW, I JUST CHECKED, WE RECEIVED ONE MORE 162 OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

WE RECEIVED FOUR RESPONSES THAT WERE NEUTRAL, TWO OF WHICH WERE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF UNIVERSITY AVENUE, NORTH OF 15TH STREET.

HERE IS THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND IN OPPOSITION AND NEUTRAL.

THERE IS A PROVISION WITHIN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT HAS A REGULATION REGARDING WRITTEN PROPERTY OWNER OPPOSITION WITHIN THE REQUIRED 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY THAT STATES THAT THE PROTEST MUST BE WRITTEN AND SIGNED BY THE OWNERS OF AT LEAST 20% OF EITHER THE AREA OF THE LOT OR LANDS COVERED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, IF THE CITY WERE INITIATING A ZONE CHANGE ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY AND THAT PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO OPPOSE IT, OR THE AREA OF THE LOTS OR LAND IMMEDIATELY ADJOINING THE AREA COVERED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND EXTENDING 200FT FROM THAT AREA.

SO THAT INCLUDES STREETS AND ALLEYS, ALL OF THE LAND WITHIN THAT AREA, THE LAND AREA WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, THAT NUMBER IS LISTED THERE ALONG WITH THE AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.

YOU SUBTRACT THOSE TWO, TAKE THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY OWNER OPPOSITION WE HAVE RECEIVED WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY WE ARE AT, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO 22%. SO THEREFORE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE FROM CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN TRIGGERED.

SO IN ORDER FOR THIS CASE TO BE APPROVED, WE WE MUST RECEIVE SIX OUT OF SEVEN VOTES FROM COUNCIL.

COUNCIL. I THINK IN FRONT OF YOU, WE ALSO HAVE THAT SUBSTITUTION TO THE ORDINANCE, AND I'LL BRING THAT UP AND ASK SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE AFTER AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF PAGE TWO AGAIN, WE'LL IT'S THE WHEREAS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT ONE.

MISS BAKER'S GIVING HER PRESENTATION.

TOP OF PAGE TWO OF THE ORDINANCE.

ALL RIGHT, MISS SAGER.

THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY AN OUTDATED AERIAL BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

ALL OF THE HOMES SEEN HERE HAVE SINCE BEEN DEMOLISHED.

THERE IS COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST, WITH ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL ALONG UNIVERSITY AVENUE AND RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH.

THERE IS A CHURCH AT THE CORNER OF 15TH AND UNIVERSITY AS WELL.

CURRENT ZONING IS A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THERE IS AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL ALONG UNIVERSITY AVENUE, WITH ADDITIONAL MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH.

THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS AREA IS RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, WITH ONE PARCEL ALSO FOR COMMERCIAL.

ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD NOT BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PRINCIPLES AND WITH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO TEXAS TECH AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL AND IS APPROPRIATE ADJACENT TO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES AND COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE ADJACENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

THE LOCATION IS ALONG AVENUE X AND 14TH STREET, BOTH BOTH OF WHICH ARE DESIGNATED AS LOCAL STREETS, AND 15TH, WHICH IS A COLLECTOR.

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STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 2, AND AGAIN, A SUPERMAJORITY IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED OF SIX OUT OF SEVEN VOTES, AND I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS SAGER.

ART COUNCIL JUST AGAIN, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS WILL BE A TIME FOR THOSE SEEKING TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.

THIS WILL NOT BE A TIME FOR QUESTION AND ANSWER.

SO AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO AGENDA ITEM 8.5.

ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION YOU MAY APPROACH AT THIS TIME.

AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME SO I CAN AT LEAST KEEP A RUNNING LIST OF THAT.

EXCUSE ME. JANE HENRY.

I LIVE AT 5233 20TH STREET.

I USED TO LIVE AT AVENUE X IN 16TH.

THAT'S NOT MY SLIDE, THOUGH.

THIS ONE. OKAY.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE FINE. I'M BAD ENOUGH ON MY OWN SLIDES.

DON'T GIVE ME SOMEBODY ELSE'S.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON IS THE MISSION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THEY HAVE APPROVED THIS PROJECT, BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE FEATURES OF THEIR MISSION STATEMENT.

FIRST IS TO PROMOTE THE STABILIZATION OF LAND USE AS IT EXISTS, RATHER THAN PROMOTING THIS LAND USE. THIS IS ENTIRELY THE OPPOSITE.

THIS PROJECT WOULD BE EATING AWAY, NIBBLING AWAY EVEN MORE AT THE USE OF SOUTH OVERTON AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

THE SECOND STEP IS TO PROTECT.

FROM HARMFUL INFLUENCES, DROPPING 650 STUDENTS.

WITH 200 EXTRA CARS THAT DON'T HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING PLACES INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY NEED TO PARK ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND WALK THEIR DOGS IS NOTHING IF NOT A HARMFUL INFLUENCE.

THIRDLY, TO PROMOTE AND ENHANCE THE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL ESSENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS NO MORE HISTORICAL IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOOD IN LUBBOCK THAN SOUTH OVERTON.

HALF OF SOUTH OVERTON IS.

HALF OF OVERTON IS ALREADY GONE.

THERE'S NOT A TRACE OF ITS HISTORY.

ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BROADWAY, SOUTH OF SOUTH OVERTON IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT OF OUR ORIGIN.

THAT WAS THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE AREA IS LOCATED BETWEEN THE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT AND THE EDUCATIONAL AND SPORTS AREA AROUND TEXAS TECH. THIS SHOULD BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU IMPROVE AND CONCENTRATE ON TO PROTECT. FINALLY, THE CHARGE IS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING TO WATCH THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA.

AVENUE X IS A SMALL STREET, BUT IT ALREADY HAS A SIZABLE TRAFFIC PROBLEM BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN X TO GET OUT OF THE TRAFFIC ON BROADWAY ON BROAD, NOT ON BROAD.

WELL, ON BROADWAY TO ON UNIVERSITY.

THAT WILL BE GREATLY ENHANCED IF WE HAD.

THAT MUCH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.

THERE HAVE BEEN A RECORD NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ON AVENUE X, AND NOTHING IN THEIR PLAN TALKS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH VISITORS CUSTOMERS TO ANYTHING THEY HAVE THAT'S COMMERCIAL OR PARTIES THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.

NOW LET'S SEE IF I.

NOPE. OKAY.

KRISTIN. OKAY, SKIP THAT ONE.

THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE CHANGE THAT WOULD BE MADE.

THE TOP ONE SHOWS YOU THAT FROM DRAIN HALL TO THE WEST.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF UNIVERSITY AND AND ACROSS UNIVERSITY.

THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE QUITE THE SAME IMPACT.

BUT IN THE LOWER ILLUSTRATION, THAT IS THE COMPARISON OF A SEVEN STORY BUILDING WITH THE MOSTLY ONE STORY HOMES THAT ARE ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT IS OUR HOPE THAT YOU WILL TURN THIS DOWN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MARY VINES.

I LIVE AT 4002 16TH STREET.

AND I HAD PLANNED TO SPEAK AT THE THREE MINUTE TIME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION, BUT WAS TOLD BY THE PERSON OUTSIDE THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ONE.

SO I'M SPEAKING.

I'M SPEAKING NOW, BUT I HOPE TO BE BE BRIEF.

YOU ALL RECEIVED LETTERS FROM ME AND I.

THOSE WERE LONG, AND I HOPE THAT YOU READ THEM, BECAUSE I EXPRESSED A LOT OF WHAT I WAS FEELING IN THOSE LETTERS.

BUT I THOUGHT TODAY I WOULD PRESENT SOMETHING GRAPHIC TO YOU THAT MIGHT HELP YOU TO CONSIDER EXACTLY WHAT THIS THIS PROJECT IS ON THE FIRST PAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

YOU SEE THE EXCUSE ME, THE BUILDING THAT IS OWNED BY TEXAS TECH AT THE CORNER OF 19TH INTERSECTION OF 19TH STREET AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE. THAT'S THE BACK VIEW OF THAT BUILDING.

ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU SEE AN AERIAL VIEW OF BOTH THAT AREA AND OF THE AREA THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE ZONING CHANGE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO NOTE IS THE DENSITY OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

THE SHADED AREAS SHOW THAT DENSITY.

AT THE TOP YOU SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THE 19TH STREET AND UNIVERSITY, AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS TWICE AS LONG TO THE EAST AS THE UNIVERSITIES BUILDING.

WHAT IS GOING SOUTH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TWICE THE LENGTH, AND THAT WHOLE AREA WILL BE BUILDING ALL THE WAY. IT WOULD BE AS IF THAT BANK, FORMER BANK BUILDING OCCUPIED THAT WHOLE SPACE CLEAR TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION. AND I THINK THAT IS PART OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE CAR WASH THAT YOU CONSIDERED EARLIER.

SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE DENSITY OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND THE AREA THAT IT IS GOING TO TO BE COVERING, BECAUSE THAT I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE OPPOSITION THAT YOU HEARD TO THIS CASE, THE NUMBERS OF THOSE PEOPLE FEEL THAT IT IS TOO DENSE AND TOO DENSELY POPULATED AREA ALREADY TO HAVE THIS SORT OF INTRUSION INTO THE AREA. SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT AS YOU CONTINUE TO HEAR THE CASE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN CAREFULLY TO ALL THE PARTS OF THE OPPOSITION.

I KNOW THAT YOU, MANY OF YOU, ARE THINKING ABOUT THE ADDITION TO THE TAX ROLL.

I'VE HEARD THAT.

I KNOW THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

I KNOW THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY STAFF, BUT I THINK THERE ARE MANY GOOD REASONS THAT IT SHOULD REMAIN A MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT WILL BE DEFINITELY HARMED BY THE INTRUSION OF THIS PROJECT.

SO PLEASE LISTEN CAREFULLY AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT FOR MANY OF US WHO ARE SITTING OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR YOUNG GUESTS OVER HERE WHO CAME IN, THAT NOT ONLY ARE YOU NOT TALKING HEADS, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THOSE OF US WHO ARE SHORT OR JUST LOOKING AT THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.

AND THEN WHEN YOU BEGIN TO TALK AND YOU TALK AMONG YOURSELVES, WE CAN'T.

WE REALLY WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE NOT HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SO AS YOU CONTINUE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE GOOD DISCUSSION AS YOU CONSIDER THIS CASE, THAT YOU WILL SPEAK UP AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

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MY NAME IS GRETCHEN SCOTT.

I LIVE AT 4012 69TH STREET IN LUBBOCK.

I DO NOT LIVE IN THIS AREA, BUT I AM CONCERNED WITH ALL OF LUBBOCK, NOT JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M REPRESENTING THE LUBBOCK HERITAGE SOCIETY TODAY.

WE ARE IN AGREEMENT TO OPPOSE THIS.

WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SOUTH OVERTON IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

IT HAS THE EXACT DESIGNATION AS COLONIAL WILLIAMSBURG.

SO THAT IS THE WEIGHTED IMPORTANCE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS INCREDIBLY IT'S A FEATHER IN OUR CAP IN LUBBOCK THAT WE HAVE A HISTORIC DISTRICT LIKE THIS.

SO IF WE HAVE ZONING ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE THERE, YOU JUST SAW SOME QUOTES FROM CITY DOCUMENTS SAYING, THAT'S THE JOB.

PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, PROTECT THE CITIZENS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

NOT EVERYONE IN LUBBOCK CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY IN SOUTHWEST LUBBOCK, NOR DO WE WANT TO.

WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INSIDE THE LOOP.

WE LOVE OUR OLD NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE LOVE OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE WANT TO LIVE THERE.

SO IT'S MY HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL LISTEN CAREFULLY.

DON'T MAKE YOUR MINDS UP BEFORE WE EVEN START.

LISTEN TO THE WELL THOUGHT OUT, FACTUAL, PROFESSIONAL STATEMENTS THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MAKING.

THEY'RE BEGGING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THEIR HOMES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WE REALLY WANT YOU TO LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND TO THE WELL THOUGHT OUT THINGS THAT THEY'VE SAID.

AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE YOU WITH ONE THOUGHT.

IT'S YOUR SWORN DUTY TO PROTECT THIS CITY AND REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, NOT ONE PERSON'S FINANCIAL GAIN.

THAT'S YOUR JOB, AND IT IS YOUR JOB TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS.

AND IF YOU WOULD NOT VOTE TO HAVE THIS HIGH DENSITY PROJECT IN YOUR IMMEDIATE VICINITY, RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOME, RIGHT IN YOUR IMMEDIATE AREA, THEN PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR IT IN SOMEONE ELSE'S BACKYARD.

THAT'S NOT FAIR AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JIM BERTRAM.

I LIVE AT 1725 NORFOLK AVENUE IN LUBBOCK.

I ALSO AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE LUBBOCK HERITAGE SOCIETY, AND AM A FELLOW IN THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS.

I'M HERE TO SAY TO YOU THAT THIS CASE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED AS PRESENTED FOR FOUR BASIC REASONS.

FIRST, IT IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH YOUR RECENTLY UPDATED AND ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

SECONDLY, IT IS A SPOT ZONE.

THERE IS NOT ANY SIMILAR ZONING TO THIS EVEN NEAR CLOSE BY.

THIRDLY, IT IS PROPOSED AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE AND THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL EAST OF AVENUE X, AND YET, AS A SEVEN STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF SCALE IN THAT SETTING.

WORSE THAN THE USE THAT THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO BUFFER IT FROM.

FOURTHLY, AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT, THE RESIDENTS OF THE SOUTH OVERTON HISTORIC DISTRICT HAVE SAID THEY DON'T NECESSARILY OPPOSE A REASONABLE APARTMENT COMPLEX OF FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT.

WITH REGARD TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS CHANGE MEETS NEITHER THE LETTER NOR THE PRINCIPLES OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL PRINCIPLES OF THE PLAN THAT ARE STATED THAT WOULD SUPPORT EITHER DENYING OR SCALING DOWN THE PROPOSAL.

ONLY I MENTION ONLY THREE OF THESE.

ON PAGE 68, REFERENCE IS MADE TO THE STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS CITIES TO ZONE AND GUIDE ZONING TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND IT STATES IN PART, ZONING IS FOR, QUOTE, THE PROMOTING, PROTECTING AND PRESERVING PLACES AND AREAS OF HISTORICAL, CULTURAL OR ARCHITECTURAL IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE.

IN QUOTE, THIS CASE DOES JUST THE OPPOSITE.

PAGE 170 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UNDER THE TITLE OF IMPORTANCE OF OLDER HOUSING STATES.

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AND LASTLY, ON PAGE 40, UNDER THE HEADING OF VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSING VARIETY, IT STATES, QUOTE, PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND A RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES.

THIS CASE THREATENS THE VERY STABILITY OF A HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL AREA COMPARABLE TO THAT ON IN OTHER MAJOR HISTORICAL DISTRICTS IN OTHER CITIES.

WITH REGARD TO A SPOT ZONE, THIS WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR FUTURE HIGH DENSITY ZONING.

AND HOW WILL YOU SAY NO TO THE NEXT ONE THAT COMES AND TO THE NEXT ONE? ONCE YOU'VE APPROVED A SEVEN STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND AGAIN AS THE BUFFER ZONE.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE BUFFER ZONE IS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT BETWEEN TWO INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES, IN THIS CASE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

BUT NOT EVEN THE NORTH OVERTON APARTMENT DISTRICT HAS APARTMENTS IN EXCESS OF FOUR STORIES.

IF IT'S COST EFFECTIVE THERE, WHY WOULDN'T IT BE COST EFFECTIVE HERE? SOUTH OVERTON HAS SAID THEY WOULD SUPPORT A FOUR STORY BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PROPONENTS ARE NOT HELD TO WHAT THEY SAY THEY INTEND TO DO, BUT ONLY TO THE MAXIMUM THAT THE ZONING STANDARDS ALLOW THEM TO DO SO.

IN SUMMARY PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE DOES NOT GIVE PROPER CONSIDERATION TO THE CONCERNS OF THE OF THE IMMEDIATE AND LONG TERM IMPACT ON STABILITY OF THE OVERTON RESIDENTIAL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT SHOULD EITHER BE MODIFIED TO A FOUR STORY PROJECT OR IT SHOULD BE DENIED.

THANK YOU.

THIS OVER HERE? YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO, MY NAME IS MARY CREUTZ, AND I LIVE AT 416, 4617 EIGHTH STREET.

AND I'M A LONGTIME ARCHITECT HERE IN TOWN.

THIS SAME PROPERTY AND THIS INCREDIBLY SIMILAR PROJECT CAME TO COUNCIL LAST FALL, AND IT WAS VOTED DOWN, AS IT SHOULD BE TODAY.

IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT IT'S BACK WITHIN NINE MONTHS.

THE ZONE. CHANGE IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR NUMEROUS REASONS, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT IT IS SPOT ZONING.

IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ITS OVERWHELMING HEIGHT.

THE ADJACENT HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND ON A PRACTICAL LEVEL, WHERE ARE THE DOGS GOING TO PEE AND POOP NOW? I NEVER THOUGHT AS AN ARCHITECT I'D BE SAYING THAT, BUT THAT'S A QUESTION.

AFTER A DETAILED REVIEW OF THE UDC.

IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT AS AN ARCHITECT.

WHILE THE HDR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL VERTICAL USE VERTICAL MIXED USE SUBCATEGORY.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

IT'S THE ONLY SUBCATEGORY THAT ALLOWS A SEVEN STORY BUILDING, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERTICAL MIXED USE.

THAT PORTION OF THE UDC HAS SIGNIFICANT FLAWS, BUT THE PROJECT DRIVING THIS ZONE DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONE BEING REQUESTED, EVEN WITH THOSE FLAWS.

THAT THERE COULD BE A FLAW IN THIS UDC, NEWLY ADOPTED IS NOT SURPRISING AND IN FACT WAS SOMEWHAT, I BELIEVE, EXPECTED WHEN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL VOTED TO ENACT THE UDC LAST FALL.

I BELIEVE THE INTENT WAS TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AS THEY WERE DISCOVERED.

OKAY, I GET THAT.

WELL, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE CATEGORY HAS PROBLEMS, SO LET'S DISCUSS THOSE PROBLEMS AND HOW IT IMPACTS THIS ZONE CHANGE.

SO HERE'S THE FIRST PROBLEM TO THE HDR ZONE.

BESIDES MY LACK OF TECHNOLOGY HERE.

THANK YOU. GOT.

SO THE HDR LIMITS APARTMENTS TO 45FT IN HEIGHT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE MIDDLE COLUMN THERE APARTMENTS, THAT'S THE ONLY LINE THAT SAYS APARTMENTS GO DOWN AND IT SAYS 45FT.

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THAT'S NOT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS ZONE CHANGE.

BUT VERTICAL MIXED USE ALLOWS 75 FOOT AND JUST AS IMPORTANT, NO MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE I.E.

YOU COULD BUILD 100% OF THE LOT.

SO IF THIS CATEGORY ISN'T DIFFERENT THAN AN APARTMENT, THEN WHY HAVE A SEPARATE CATEGORY? AND WHY CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WHY IS IT NOT JUST TALL APARTMENTS? I MEAN, WHAT WHAT IS VERTICAL MIXED USE? OKAY. I'M STILL TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGED.

I HIT THIS AND IT DIDN'T.

THANK YOU. LET ME JUST MOVE THAT AWAY.

OH. OKAY.

SO WHAT IS VERTICAL MIXED USE.

SO THEY HAVE A DEFINITION.

AND IT SAYS IT'S A BUILDING THAT CONTAINS BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

OKAY SO BUT THERE'S GIVEN.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

BUT IT DOES NOT GIVE ANY PERCENTAGE GIVEN ON WHAT THAT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SHOULD BE.

BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD ASSUME THAT VERTICAL MIXED USE DOESN'T EVEN SAY VERTICAL MIXED APARTMENTS.

VERTICAL APARTMENTS WITH COMMERCIAL VERTICAL MIXED USE.

IT'S MEANING A ROBUST AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF CITIES WHERE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THERE'S COMMERCIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND APARTMENTS ABOVE, MAYBE THERE'S AN EVENT CENTER ON THE TOP FLOOR.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WITHOUT ANY KIND OF DESIGNATION ABOUT WHAT OR HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL, THIS IS A PROBLEM AND IT'S RIPE FOR ABUSE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

THE APPLICANT SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SMALL MARKET.

IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SIMILAR TO WHAT A HOTEL LOBBY MIGHT HAVE.

YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU'VE FORGOTTEN YOUR TOOTHPASTE, YOU GO DOWN AND THEY'VE GOT THE LITTLE CORNER.

YOU CAN BUY YOUR TOOTHPASTE AND A BAG OF POPCORN.

SO IS SELLING POPCORN ENOUGH TO ALLOW EVERY HDR ZONED APARTMENT COMPLEX TO BE A VERTICAL MIXED USE.

A TWO STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WANTS TO BE MORE DENSITY THAN THE 65% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE ALLOWED.

IN A IN UNDER APARTMENTS.

WELL, THEY'RE SUDDENLY VERTICAL MIXED USE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SELL POPCORN FROM THE LOBBY.

I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM.

SO LET'S BACKTRACK AND LOOK AT THE PURPOSE OF AN HDR MIXED USE ZONE.

BECAUSE THE OVERARCHING STATEMENT SETS THE STAGE FOR WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO OCCUR.

THE ZONE PARAMETERS ARE THEN BUILT TO ACHIEVE THIS PURPOSE, SO THE UDC STATES MIXED USE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE A MID TO HIGH RISE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT.

AND THEN IT GOES ON AND TALKS ABOUT THE DISTRICT.

IT WILL CONSIST OF DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY GARDEN HOMES, LIVE WORK BUILDINGS AND OTHER VERTICALLY MIXED USE BUILDINGS.

THE ZONING DISTRICT CHART.

GOES ON TO SAY TO REINFORCES THOSE SAME REQUIREMENTS.

THIS PROPOSED PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OF BEING IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH OTHER HOUSING TYPES.

AND REMEMBER, IN MY MIND, IT DOESN'T REALLY MEET THE INTENT OF INCLUDING COMMERCIAL.

THESE TWO ISSUES ALONE ARE ENOUGH TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.

SINCE THE VERTICAL MIXED USE IS REQUIRED TO BE IN A MIXED USE DISTRICT, IT'S ALSO REASONABLE THAT THE GENERAL MIXED USE STANDARDS IN THE UDC WOULD APPLY. A REVIEW OF THESE STANDARDS FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD NOT MEET THE INFILL ADDITION AND EXPANSION STANDARDS FOUND UNDER THE GENERAL MIXED USE STANDARDS.

IN PARTICULAR UNDER THE AVERAGE BUILDING HEIGHT.

UNDER BUILDING HEIGHT, IT WOULD LIMIT THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO THE AVERAGE OF THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, PLUS 20%.

SOMETHING AND SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE SETBACK AS WELL.

GIVEN THAT THE INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED BY THIS ZONE UNCHECKED SEVEN STORIES, NO MAXIMUM LOT DEVELOPMENT, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THIS ZONE BE RESPECTFUL WHEN OCCURRING IN AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

REQUIRING THESE STANDARDS TO BE APPLIED IS IMPORTANT TO AN INFILL PROJECT.

AND YES, THIS PROJECT DOES MEET THE UDC DEFINITION OF INFILL.

THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE ANY PROJECT USING HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL VERTICAL MIXED USE TO COMPLY WITH THE

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WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING DOES NOT MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.

OPPOSE THIS PROJECT ON THIS ISSUE.

I SUGGESTED AT PNC MEETING THAT THIS ZONE CHANGE, IF IT WAS GOING TO BE APPROVED, AT LEAST REQUIRE A RETURN TO P AND Z FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW.

P AND Z ACTUALLY LIKED THAT IDEA, BUT DIDN'T WANT IT TO COME BACK.

THEY WANTED TO TIE IT TO A SITE PLAN THAT NIGHT NOW, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I DID NOT HEAR CHRISTIAN MENTION THAT P AND Z APPROVED THIS PLAN TIED TO THE SITE PLAN. SADLY, THE SITE PLAN AVAILABLE THAT NIGHT IS MISSING.

KEY INFORMATION SHOWED NO NUMBER OF BEDS, NO NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, NO NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

SO AS IT STANDS, IT'S OF LITTLE USE.

BUT PROJECTS DO DIE.

AND REMEMBER, A ZONE CHANGE GOES WITH THE LAND.

IT'S NOT TIED TO A PROJECT.

IN. ANAL AND ANALYZING THE 2.2 ACRES, AND GIVEN THE LATITUDE IN THE ZONE WITHOUT THE USE OF THE GENERAL MIXED USE STANDARDS.

BY MY CALCULATION, MORE THAN 1200 BEDS IN 310 DWELLING UNITS COULD OCCUR.

SO WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY APPROVING 670 SOMETHING BEDS.

YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY BE PREPARED, HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE 1200 STUDENTS AND BEDS.

SO WHAT DOES THAT DENSITY DO TO CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC NOISE? AND OH MY GOSH, WHERE DO THE PETS PEE AND POOP? AND HERE'S THE SCARY REALITY.

JUST BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS SHOWING ONE THING IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF BEDS AND PARKING ILLEGALLY, AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOTHING BINDING THEM TO THOSE NUMBERS.

SO EVEN IF THIS PROJECT DOESN'T DIE AND IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER DEVELOPING THIS, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THAT THEY COME BACK AND GO, OH GOSH, WE TRIED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 1200 STUDENTS.

SO THIS PROJECT COULD TURN OUT TO HAVE MANY MORE BEDS EVEN CLOSER TO THE STREET, AND EVEN LESS PARKING.

IT'S 1200 BEDS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE.

THE ANSWER IS NO.

DENY THIS PROJECT FOR DENY THE ZONE CHANGE FOR THIS REASON.

SO ONE MORE COMPONENT PARKING.

THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT PARKING RATIOS WITHIN THE HDR ZONE THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THIS PROJECT.

WELL, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WHICH ONE DO THEY PICK? WELL, I THINK BY LAW THEY'D BE ALLOWED TO PICK ANY ONE.

SO LET'S ILLUSTRATE USING THE USING THE APPLICANT'S OWN NUMBERS OF 672 BEDS AND 276 DWELLING UNITS UNDER THE APARTMENT RATIO.

THEY'D HAVE TO. THEY'D ONLY HAVE TO APPLY 395 PARKING SPACES.

LAST YEAR, UNDER THE OLD, OLD ZONING CODE, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE 630 UNDER THE VERTICAL MIXED USE.

THAT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE 138 PARKING SPACES, BECAUSE IT'S A HALF A PARKING SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT.

SO IF YOU HAVE TWO FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENTS, YOU HAVE EIGHT BEDS.

YOU HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR IF YOU'RE APPROVING THIS ZONE.

WELL, WHERE ARE THE OTHER SEVEN GOING TO PARK? EVEN IF YOU SAY HALF THOSE STUDENTS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CAR.

HARD TO BELIEVE WHERE THE OTHER THREE ARE GOING TO PARK.

DORMITORY CATEGORY REQUIRES 672 SPACES, AND IT'S A ONE BED, ONE CAR PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WAS USED IN NORTH OVERTON.

AND CANDIDLY, WHEN YOU DRIVE NORTH OVERTON, THERE'S LOTS OF CARS PARKED ON THE STREET.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE THREE WILDLY DIVERGENT PARKING RATIOS FOR THE SAME APARTMENT FUNCTION IN THE SAME ZONE.

IT'S THE SAME STUDENT.

IT'S ENTIRELY LIKELY THAT WITH 671 STUDENTS OR REMEMBER 1200 STUDENTS VYING FOR THE OH, BY THE WAY, PRIVILEGE TO PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL PAY FOR PARKING FOR THE LESS THAN 200 PARKING SPACES THAT COULD OCCUR, WHERE WILL THOSE OTHER HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS OF STUDENT CARS GO? AND WHAT ABOUT VISITORS STAFF? THE NEIGHBORING STREETS CANNOT HANDLE THIS.

DENY THIS PROJECT ON THAT REASON.

THE ZONE CHANGE PROPOSAL LAST FALL FOR THE SAME PROJECT, SAME PROPERTY WAS VOTED DOWN BY COUNCIL COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS REQUEST DOES NOT MEET THE

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I URGE EACH OF YOU TONIGHT TO VOTE NO ON THIS CASE.

THANK YOU. IT'S BIG TYPE.

IT'S NOT LITTLE TYPE, SO IT'S NOT REAL LONG.

MY SON WAS IN THE AIR FORCE AND FLEW C-5.

HE SET SEVEN STORIES UP.

AND I GUARANTEE YOU, IF YOU STOOD UP IN THAT COCKPIT AND LOOK DOWN.

SEVEN STORIES IS A LONG WAYS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND REPRESENT MYSELF AND MY WIFE.

I'M HERSCHEL WOMACK.

MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 2323 18TH STREET ON THE CORNER OF AVENUE X AND 18TH.

THAT'S WHERE 18TH DEAD ENDS.

AND IT'S THERE. THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT.

OTHERS WILL GIVE EVIDENCE REGARDING THAT THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD DISASTER OR TERRIBLE PROBLEMS FOR US.

SO I WILL JUST ONLY THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTING, AFFECTING US BY WHICH IS APPLICABLE TO THE WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ON TWO OCCASIONS, CARS HAVE RUN THROUGH OUR FRONT YARD, DAMAGING PLANTS AND IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AS THEY RUN THROUGH THERE MORE TIMES THAN THAT.

BUT THAT'S THE TIME THEY DID SOME DAMAGE.

BUT ON TWO OTHER TIMES IT WAS MAJOR DAMAGE.

ON OUR ON OUR HOUSE.

THEY KNOCKED OUT THE WHOLE CORNER SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF DAMAGE.

BOTH TIMES THEY KNOCKED DOWN A TREE.

AND THIS IS A DEAD END.

IT'S NOT LIKE AN INTERSECTION, YOU KNOW, STOP WITH A FOUR WAY STOP OR SOMETHING.

SO WE'VE HAD REAL PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

I'LL LET THE OTHER PEOPLE ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES WHO HAVE ALSO HAD THEIR HOUSE, HOUSE AND PROPERTY DAMAGED.

OKAY. IF APPROVED, THE STRUCTURE WILL HAVE NUMEROUS NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

TRAFFIC NOW BACKS UP A BLOCK IN LUBBOCK HIGH DISMISSES SO IN LUBBOCK HIGH GETS OUT.

THE PLANT COMES ACTUALLY FARTHER THAN THAT.

BUT I'M TRYING TO BE HONEST HERE.

IT BACKS UP PAST OUR PAST 18TH STREET, WHICH MAKES IT HARD FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY.

YEAH, I'LL COME BACK OUT, BUT I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

I HAVE TO ALWAYS GO THE OTHER DIRECTION BECAUSE THE LINE IS SO LONG.

IT ALSO BACKS UP WHEN YOU HAVE TEXAS TECH EVENTS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THEM EVERY DAY.

THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

IT'S INCONVENIENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUST SIT HERE AND COMPLAIN TO YOU.

BUT BUT HAVING THE THE TRAFFIC COME DOWN THAT STREET ON ON AVENUE X IS, IS REALLY GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT HIGH VOLUME.

I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT EASILY.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED SITE IS WE BELIEVE IT'S A DONE DEAL.

WE DON'T THINK WE I HOPE WE'RE WRONG.

I TRUST YOU, BUT WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS GOING TO HAPPEN THE WAY IT'S BEEN PROPOSED.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THE TAX REVENUE IS IMPORTANT TO LUBBOCK AND THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT OF TAX REVENUE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THIS BUILDING.

AND WE'RE NOT AGAINST ALL BUILDINGS.

WE'RE SEVEN STORIES.

THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE COMPLEX WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AND FOLKS, WHEN YOU GET READY TO LEAVE, IF I WAS AT THAT BUILDING AND WANTED TO LEAVE TO GO TO SAY TO HOME DEPOT, ANYPLACE SOUTH, I'VE GOT THREE WAYS TO GET OUT.

I CAN GO DOWN TO BROADWAY AND GO ON TO UNIVERSITY THERE.

THAT'S ALREADY A TRAFFIC ISSUE.

SOME, I THINK YOU WOULD THINK.

AND THEN 15TH STREET.

THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD WAY TO GO.

THERE'S A LIGHT THERE. YOU CAN GO LEFT OR RIGHT ON THE UNIVERSITY, BUT IF YOU DON'T GO THERE, THEN YOU GOT TO COME DOWN X TO 19TH DEAD END, TAKE A RIGHT AND GO TO UNIVERSITY.

AND THAT'S WHERE FOR US, LIVING ON THAT QUARTER IS GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM.

SO I HOPE THAT YOU SEE WHAT AND I HOPE YOU'LL HELP US IF THIS GOES THROUGH.

PLEASE HELP US DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC ISSUE.

REALLY WILL IMPLORE YOU, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE TRAFFIC BARRICADED OFF IF YOU HAVE TO? IT'S BAD FOR ME TO BLOCK OFF THAT STREET REAL BAD FOR ME.

BUT I'D RATHER HAVE THAT THAN SOMEBODY GET KILLED.

LAST TIME WHEN WE MET WITH THE ZONING COMMISSION, I DIDN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

A CAREFUL. AND I'M ASHAMED.

I'M ASHAMED. I DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING.

WHY? BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY GETS KILLED ON THAT NEIGHBOR ON THAT STREET AND I DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, I'M RESPONSIBLE.

MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO ARE THE. AND SO ARE ALL OF US.

ALL OF US ARE. IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING OR TRY TO.

AT LEAST THIS TIME I'VE VOICED MY OPINION AND I FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.

I'M NOT QUITE AS ASHAMED AS I WAS BEFORE, BUT I WISH I'D SAID SOMETHING.

OKAY, LET ME KEEP GOING.

LET ME CLOSE THE LAST PART HERE REAL QUICKLY.

SO LAST STATEMENT.

AS YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, REPRESENT SOUTH OVERTON AND NOT JUST THE COMMERCIAL INTEREST OF A FEW.

PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR VOICES.

AND I THINK YOU ARE OF THE MANY PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO SUCH A CHANGE OF A LARGE BUILDING, NOT ANY BUILDING, SEVEN STORY BUILDING.

AND AND PLEASE DO NOT LET MR. ABRAHAM, WHO HAS LET HIS PROPERTIES RUN DOWN AND THEN CLAIM HOW BAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AND HOW HIS PROPERTY, HIS NEW PROPERTY.

SEVEN STORIES WILL IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER LETTING THOSE THEY'VE NOW BEEN BULLDOZED.

OKAY, AND I DON'T MEAN TO I'M GOING TO TREAD LIGHTLY ON THIS, THIS QUOTE.

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I'M NOT SAYING MR. ABRAHAM IS A HYPOCRITE. I WANTED TO BE ACCURATE, THOUGH, IN THE QUOTE.

SO THE FAMOUS QUOTE BY ABRAHAM LINCOLN CALLED THE HYPOCRITE IS THE MAN WHO MURDERED HIS PARENTS AND THEN PLEADED FOR MERCY ON THE GROUNDS THAT HE WAS AN ORPHAN.

AND I THINK THAT KIND OF FITS THE TEARING DOWN OF THE PROPERTY FOR SEVEN STORY BUILDING.

THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ALL OF YOU. OKAY.

HI. MY NAME IS PEARL BIAS AND PEARL.

ARE YOU THE LEAD SPOKESPERSON FOR THIS GROUP? ARE YOU THE LEAD SPOKESPERSON FOR THIS GROUP? WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? GREAT JOB. SO MY FAMILY HAS BEEN LIVING ON AT TWO, THREE, TWO, 1/18 STREET FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS.

AND AT LEAST FOUR TIMES.

WOW. WE HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE.

CARS HAVE CRASHED CRASHED INTO HOUSES ON OUR STREET, AND I JUST DON'T BELIEVE ADDING THIS APARTMENT WILL HELP THE TRAFFIC FLOW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MINNIE.

MY NAME IS MINNIE.

BUYERS. AND ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

WE WERE PLAYING IN OUR NEIGHBOR'S FRONT YARD, AND A CAR CRASHED IN TO THEIR HOUSE AND ALMOST HIT US.

AND THIS LADY WAS WALKING HER DOG, AND SHE SAVED ME AND MY FRIEND.

AND SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WALKING HER DOG IF THERE WERE 700 CARS.

RIDE GOING ON OUR BRICK ROAD RIGHT BY OUR STREET.

SO I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DOLLY BYAS AND I RIDE MY SCOOTER EVERY DAY.

I WEAR MY SKIRT EVERY DAY DOWN OUR BLOCK IN OUR FRONT YARD, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET RAN OVER BY A CAR.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS.

I AM ANNIE, AND VOTING AGAINST THIS COMPLEX DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE VOTING AGAINST BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN LUBBOCK.

WE SUPPORT BUSINESS BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN LUBBOCK BECAUSE OUR DAD IS A BUILDER AND DEVELOPMENT IN LUBBOCK FEEDS OUR FAMILY.

VOTING AGAINST THIS COMPLEX IS VOTING TO KEEP THE OLDEST HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IN LUBBOCK SAFE, EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY NOT AFFECT YOU.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AFFECTED BY THIS.

THANK YOU. GIRLS.

HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE.

GIRLS. I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THAT WAS EXTREMELY WELL DONE.

AND I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF YOU AND YOUR BOLDNESS TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK YOUR VOICE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE VERY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M HOLLY HUMPHRIES, I LIVE AT 3008 26TH STREET.

I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA UNDER CONSIDERATION.

I LIVED AT THE UAF'S BUILDING FIVE BLOCKS NORTH ON MAIN STREET FOR 15 YEARS.

I NOW LIVE IN A SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY ZONED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUR SISTER NEIGHBORHOOD, SOUTH OVERTON, IS ALSO THE HEART OF LUBBOCK NEIGHBORHOOD.

ARE ALL THOSE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS IN LUBBOCK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT TO SPIN OFF OF WHAT THESE YOUNG LADIES JUST TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, I HAD BROUGHT RECENT RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN MAY 23RD, 2024, THAT WALKABILITY IN NEIGHBORHOODS IS LINKED TO HEALTH, AND I WOULD CHARGE YOU WITH THINKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN MCDOUGALL VILLE VERSUS HOW MANY OF THEM DRIVE OVER TO ONE OF OUR CITY PARKS.

WE HAVE TWO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF TECH TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY WALK THEIR DOGS.

THEY WALK OUR STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE GREEN LINED.

THEY HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES, AS DOES SOUTH OVERTON.

AND THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO ENHANCE THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE.

THEY DID A STUDY WHERE THEY TOOK TWO TWINS.

ONE GIRL LIVED IN A HIGH URBAN DENSITY AREA, THE OTHER IN A WALKABILITY NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.

THE ONE GIRL'S HEALTH WAS MUCH BETTER BECAUSE SHE HAD CALMER, PEACEFUL SURROUNDINGS.

CROWDED URBAN CONGESTION IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO HUMAN HEALTH.

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SO OUT OF RESPECT TO MAYOR PAYNE'S REQUEST THAT WE NOT REPEAT THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID, I WON'T GO THERE, BUT IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO TAKE A PHILOSOPHY SUCH AS THIS MISSION STATEMENT AND PUT IT INTO ACTION.

AND BY GIVING THIS VARIANCE TO THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS TO PUT AN OUT-OF-SCALE BUILDING IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THAT IS TO COMPLETELY CANCEL THE PHILOSOPHY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GUIDE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD. NOW, WHEN I LIVED AT YUSOF'S, I LIVED THERE FOR 15 YEARS.

I WAS AN RA THERE.

I WAS A TECH GRADUATE STUDENT THE WHOLE TIME.

WE HAD AN ATTEMPTED MURDER NEXT DOOR TO ME IN THE APARTMENT, A SUICIDE OUT OF THE SEVENTH STORY WINDOW BY A MEDICAL STUDENT.

IN THE 70S.

WE HAD TWO MURDERS ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, AND WE HAD DOUG BIRDSALL, THE ASSOCIATE DEAN OF LIBRARIES, MURDERED IN OUR BACK ALLEY.

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? BECAUSE URBAN CONGESTION BREEDS AND TIMIDITY.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE NEIGHBORS SITTING ON PORCHES WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON.

WHEREAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE MAKE FRIENDS WITH ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THE FRATERNITY BOYS WHO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO US IN THREE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF 15 YEARS, HELPED US AS WE HELPED THEM.

THEY CHASE DOWN A GUY WHO RAN INTO MY HUSBAND'S CHEVY TAHOE, PARKED ON 26TH STREET, AND REPORTED TO THE POLICE THAT THEY HAD THIS FELLOW SEQUESTERED IN A BACK ALLEY. I WOULD DRIVE THEM TO WORK WHEN THEIR BATTERIES DIED, AND MY HUSBAND WOULD RECHARGE THEIR BATTERY OR PUMP UP THEIR TIRES.

WE WERE NEIGHBORS, AND RIGHT NOW I KNOW OF A WOMAN NAMED CAROL HENDERSON, WHO RECENTLY RETIRED FROM UT AUSTIN, AND SHE SAID THAT THE WHOLE HISTORIC SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT USED TO RUN TO THE EAST OF THAT CAMPUS ALONG GUADALUPE IS GONE.

IT'S ALL HIGH RISE STUDENT APARTMENTS.

AND SHE SAID, AND SHE SENT ME PICTURES AND I PRESENTED THEM THIS PAST FALL.

THERE IS VANDALISM.

THERE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE SIDEWALKS.

THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORS CONCERNED WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR TO CALL THE POLICE OR TO CALL ZONING OR TO OR EXCUSE ME, CODES TO REPORT PROBLEMS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE.

IT'S SIMPLY PEOPLE PACKED INTO HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO LUBBOCK.

AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO SERVE OUR TEXAS TECH STUDENTS WELL.

AND I NOT ONLY, AS I SAID, WAS I A TECH STUDENT FOR 15 YEARS, BUT I TAUGHT THEM.

AND THEN I BECAME A PROFESSOR DOWN AT UT AUSTIN, AND I TAUGHT THOSE STUDENTS AND THE STUDENTS BENEFIT.

AND WELFARE IS ONE OF MY TOP CONCERNS.

AND IF YOU PUT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE ONLY CONTRIBUTING TO AN AMENITY TO STUDENTS NOT REALLY HAVING ANYONE CARE ABOUT THEM. THEY'RE SORT OF FLOATING ON THEIR OWN, AND THEY FLOAT IN AND THEY FLOAT OUT.

BUT I WOULD URGE YOU TO PLEASE NOT PERMIT THIS ZONING VARIANCE.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

RICHARD MURPHY, 2911 20TH STREET.

JUST A FEW VERY BRIEF OBSERVATIONS.

IT SEEMS TO ME THE OVERARCHING PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE VERTICAL MIXED USE SUBDIVISION OF THE HDR ZONE IS A PROBLEM.

IT'S UNCLEAR.

AND UNTIL SUCH TIME IT IS CLARIFIED AND FIXED, WHEN YOU APPROVE A SHIFT TO HDR, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING.

I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE ANY SHIFT TO HDR UNTIL VERTICAL MIXED USE SUBDIVISION IS IS CLARIFIED.

JUST A FEW QUICK OBSERVATIONS ABOUT THAT.

SOME OF THEM QUICKLY ECHOING SOME OF THE POINTS THAT MARY MADE.

IS IT REALLY THE CASE THAT JUST TOSSING A LITTLE COMMISSARY SHOP, SELLING SOME TOOTHPASTE INTO THE FIRST FLOOR OF A BUILDING IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY A SHIFT FROM A 45 FOOT TALL APARTMENT BUILDING TO A 75 FOOT TALL, VERTICAL, MIXED USE BUILDING.

ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES CLARIFICATION? SECONDLY, IT SEEMS LIKE PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE PREMISE THAT IF YOU DECLARE YOURSELF VERTICAL MIXED USE AS AS YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DO UNDER THE UDC, THAT YOU HAVE A VESTED RIGHT TO BUILD TO 75FT.

BUT NEAR AS I CAN TELL ON THE BEST READING OF THE GENERAL MIXED USE REGULATIONS ACTUALLY, GENERAL MIXED USE REGULATIONS APPLY TO VERTICAL MIXED USE IN THE HDR ZONE.

THE LANGUAGE IN PARTICULAR THAT I'M THINKING OF COMES FROM 3902 005AI KNOW IT'S EVERYONE'S FAVORITE MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

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PARENTHETICAL. VERTICAL.

MIXED USE. A LITTLE LATER IN THE SECTION IT SAYS THESE STANDARDS IN THIS SUBSECTION APPLY TO ALL MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

IT DOES NOT USE THE PHRASE BASE MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

IT SAYS ALL MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

AND ON THAT READING, THE SETBACK AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS THAT MARY WAS WAS IDENTIFYING FOR YOU EARLIER WOULD APPLY TO THIS PROJECT.

THIRD POINT, JUST IN TERMS OF THE RATIONALITY OF THE CURRENT SETUP, THE PARKING VARIATIONS ARE JUST PATENTLY ABSURD.

WHY IS IT THAT PARKING REGULATIONS ARE DEALT WITH SO DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU EXERCISE YOUR FREE RIGHT AS AN APPLICANT TO SAY I'M VERTICAL MIXED USE, WELL, THEN YOU ONLY NEED POINT FIVE PER DWELLING UNIT AS OPPOSED TO NEEDING FAR MORE IF YOU'RE UNDER THE APARTMENT SUBDIVISION.

AND THE LAST POINT I'LL MAKE, AND I HESITATE TO MAKE IT, HESITATE TO MAKE IT, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW IF THE FACTUAL PREDICATE IS APPLICABLE.

BUT IF THERE IS A SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY UNIT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT ON ANY OF THOSE STREETS, IF THERE'S JUST ONE, THEN THE PROJECT. AND I KNOW THIS IS A ZONING DECISION, NOT A PROJECT DECISION, BUT THE PROJECT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF AND I WISH I WAS SURE OF THE SITE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S 39 020 18.

YOU CAN'T BUILD APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT THE UDC SAYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

I'M DEFINITELY PUTTING YOU UNDER OATH, TED.

I WOULDN'T BLAME YOU. KEEP THE OFFICERS ON STANDBY TO.

SO IS IT THE FIRST ONE? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. OKAY.

SO WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT ME TO PUSH? THAT'S IT. PITCHERS.

THAT'S MINE. OKAY. RIGHT BUTTON.

OH. UP AND DOWN. OKAY.

GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS TED HOGAN, 2712 20TH.

MY WIFE CHRISTY, AND OUR BOYS LIVED THERE.

WHILE WE ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS THAT I'D LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL ABOUT FIRST.

AND THIS IS JUST BORING LEGAL STUFF.

BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE VISIT ABOUT THESE ISSUES JUST BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

NUMBER ONE.

AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CONSIDERATION OF THIS AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS PREMATURE.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THIS COUNCIL DENIED THIS APPLICATION APPLICATION OR A VERY SIMILAR APPLICATION LESS THAN 12 MONTHS AGO.

OF SECTION 39.07 .032.

THE UDC GOVERNS.

AND THERE'S A NUGGET.

THE VERY FIRST CLAUSE OF SUBSECTION D, I THINK, VERY NICELY ENCAPSULATES WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY.

IT TELLS US WHAT THE NATURE OF OUR PRESENTATION IS.

TO PROMOTE THE STABILITY AND WELL-BEING OF THE COMMUNITY AND OFFER CERTAINTY TO THE CITY'S CITIZENS REGARDING THE USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY.

I COULDN'T HAVE WRITTEN THAT ANY BETTER.

AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE PEOPLE.

CITIZENS. TAXPAYERS.

WHOSE LIVES.

SAVINGS HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO THIS AREA AND WE'LL WE'LL RETURN TO THIS SHORTLY.

BUT WHOEVER WROTE THIS ENCAPSULATED THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT TODAY.

SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE CRITERIA A, B, AND C ARE THE THREE STANDARDS.

CLEARLY THIS WAS DENIED WITHIN 12 MONTHS.

B AND C ARE CRITICAL, AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED WHY THEY'RE DISJUNCTIVE.

IT'S OR.

IT'S NOT AND IT'S OR.

BE HAS BEEN MET.

THE APPLICATION CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION INCLUDES PROPERTY THAT WAS ALL OR A PART OF THE PREVIOUSLY DENIED CASE.

YOU DON'T GET TO THE DISTINCTIONS, YOU DON'T GET TO THE DIFFERENCES.

BECAUSE THE DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.

IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME TRACKS.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THIS PROVISION APPLIES AND WE'RE PREMATURE.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT.

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AND REMAND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR PROCEEDINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS PROVISION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

SO. ONE OTHER THING, AND MR. BERTRAM HAS ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THIS.

I JUST WANT TO REVISIT THE ISSUE.

WE BELIEVE THAT IF THIS GOES FORWARD, THERE IS A COMPELLING CASE TO BE MADE.

UNDER TEXAS SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT.

THIS IS, IN FACT A SPOT ZONE.

AND I'LL LET I'LL DEFER TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS GETTING INTO THE WEEDS WITH THAT ON YOU.

I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THESE FOUR POINTS, BUT THESE ARE THE FOUR STANDARDS.

THAT WERE SET OUT BY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT ON SPOT ZONING.

YOU'VE GOT A FORMER DIRECTOR, LONG TIME DIRECTOR.

THE PLANNING FOR THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

WHO IS TELLING YOU AFTER DECADES OF EXPERIENCE? THIS MEETS THE CRITERIA.

I REALLY THINK YOU ALL NEED TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THAT AND MAYBE VISIT WITH COUNCIL ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO ENOUGH OF THE BORING LEGAL STUFF.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK THERE ANYMORE.

THE NEXT THING I WANT TO VISIT WITH YOU ALL ABOUT, IT'S BECOME CLEAR TO ME.

THIS IS THE FOURTH HEARING WE'VE HAD ON THIS BETWEEN P AND Z AND COUNCIL, AND IT'S BECOME CLEAR TO ME.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS FLOATING AROUND.

THERE ARE A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION GOING AROUND, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TODAY RATHER THAN I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT TO OTHERS WHO ARE BETTER QUALIFIED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE UDC AND HIGH DENSITY AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THE AREA, AND I WANT TO CLEAR UP SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS.

OF WHAT'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND CITY HALL AND WHAT'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND THE TOWN.

IN THIS, OUR FOURTH MEETING, WHAT IS NOW OUR FOURTH MEETING, CONSIDERING THIS.

SO THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY, ONE OF THE MAYOR'S FAVORITES, TELLS US THE WORD IS FALLACY.

THAT'S THE WORD I WANT TO USE TODAY.

IT'S DEFINED AS A MISTAKEN BELIEF, ESPECIALLY ONE BASED ON UNSOUND ARGUMENT.

THERE ARE FALLACIES REGARDING OUR POSITION.

AND THE NATURE OF THE AREA.

A MISTAKEN BELIEF.

BASED UPON AN UNSOUND ARGUMENT.

FALLACY NUMBER ONE.

THOSE PEOPLE IN SOUTH OVERTON ARE AGAINST EVERYTHING.

AND I GOT TO TELL YOU WHERE THIS CAME FROM, BECAUSE I REALLY JUST WANTED TO BEAT MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL.

PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, TWO GUYS SET RIGHT THERE AND SAID, WE DON'T THINK THESE PEOPLE WANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

AND I REALLY THOUGHT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A GERIATRIC REVOLT BECAUSE THERE WERE ABOUT 40 PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT WERE ABOUT TO GO OVER.

IT WAS UPSETTING.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS SITE.

THIS IS ANOTHER STRUCTURE.

HALF A MILE AWAY.

MAC DAVIS AND UNIVERSITY JUST EAST OF UNIVERSITY, JUST WEST OF THE OVERTON HOTEL.

IT'S A NICE STRUCTURE.

IT IS FOUR STORIES.

IT IS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONE.

YOU'VE GOT ARCHITECTURE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH TEXAS TECH'S TRADITIONAL ARCHITECTURE.

IT'S A VERY NICE, VERY WALKABLE, VERY RELATABLE PROJECT THAT'S BUILT ON A HUMAN SCALE.

THE APPLICANT CAN BUILD THE RIGHT NOW, TODAY.

AND WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE HERE.

I CAN THINK. I CAN SPEAK FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE SAYING THAT WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THIS.

HERSCHEL, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? YES, YES, YES.

I'VE ALWAYS GOT TO CHECK WITH HERSCHEL.

HE KNOWS WHERE I LIVE AND I'M CONCERNED.

I CAN'T HELP YOU WITH THE TRAFFIC, THOUGH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THE CURRENT ZONING IS APPROPRIATE.

AND IN A PROPERTY.

AND A PROJECT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED HERE THAT WOULD GIVE THE APPLICANT A GOOD RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT, BUT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT.

AND THAT'S FALLACY NUMBER TWO.

THE PROPONENT CAN'T BUILD A SMALLER PROJECT IN THIS SITE.

FOLKS. THAT'S NOT JUST SIMPLY THE CASE.

AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE? ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THEIR WEBSITE BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE IT.

LUMEN. 351 BEDS.

THIS IS DIRECTLY OFF THE PARALLELS WEBSITE.

MUSE. THIS WAS IN AUSTIN, BY THE WAY.

502 BEDS.

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ANOTHER ONE AT UT, 504 BEDS.

327 BEDS.

I BELIEVE THIS ONE'S AT OHIO STATE.

I'M NOT CERTAIN.

THE RADIANT IN PHILADELPHIA, 498 BEDS.

AND THESE ARE ALL PROFESSIONAL LOOKING, GOOD LOOKING PROJECTS.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT REALLY GETS ME.

EUGENE, OREGON. UNIVERSITY OF OREGON, 244 BEDS.

FOLKS, I'M HARD PRESSED TO BELIEVE.

THAT THESE INVESTORS CANNOT FIND A WAY TO BUILD A PROJECT IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS, WHICH IS KNOWN FOR ITS LOW COST OF LIVING.

WE MARKET IT NATIONALLY.

IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO LIVE HERE.

THEY CAN DO IT IN AUSTIN.

THEY CAN DO IT.

IN COLUMBUS, OHIO.

THEY CAN DO IT IN EUGENE, OREGON, BUT SOMEHOW, LUBBOCK, TEXAS, THE COST EFFICIENCY IS JUST ESCAPED THEM.

AND THE REASON IS IT'S A FALLACY.

I CAN DO IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO.

THEY DON'T NEED THIS ZONE CHANGE.

THEY WANT THIS ZONE CHANGE.

AND THE REASON THEY WANT THIS ZONE CHANGE IS BECAUSE UNDER THE UDC, AS MARY CHRIST AND JIM BERTRAM AND PROFESSOR MURPHY JUST TOLD YOU.

ONCE YOU APPROVE THIS, THEY CAN BUILD ANYTHING THEY WANT UNLESS YOU TIE IT TO A SITE PLAN SUBJECT TO STAFF'S APPROVAL, AND YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE TO SEE THEM AGAIN.

THAT'S A PROBLEM, FOLKS.

THAT'S FRIGHTENING.

WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS THAT OTHERS WHO ARE BETTER SUITED THAN ME HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT.

WE NEED TO SLOW OUR ROLL.

WE NEED TO HEED THE CAUTION SIGNS, AND WE NEED TO.

AND WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT.

FALLACY NUMBER THREE.

THERE'S NOBODY LEFT IN SOUTH OVERTON.

AND THIS ONE COMES FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

BECAUSE IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE TRIED TO BE TIME EFFICIENT AND WE TRIED TO NOT HAVE PERSON AFTER PERSON AFTER PERSON COME UP AND REPEAT AND REPEAT AND REPEAT.

AND SO IN ORDER TO TRY TO BE TIME EFFICIENT AGAIN, I'VE DONE A LITTLE DRAWING WITH THE HELP OF TORIN ALLEN, WHO HAS DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB, AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS HARD WORK.

LET'S DO IT THIS WAY.

MY APPROACH. YOU MAY.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR GAVEL? NOW I'D LIKE TO START WITH.

IS HARD TO READ THESE ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE THESE LINES ARE SO SMALL.

THE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THESE LINES ARE SO SMALL THEY'RE HARD TO READ.

BUT THIS MAP, I THINK, DEMONSTRATES THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE IN SOUTH OVERTON WHO CALL THIS THEIR HOMES.

AND THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN SOUTH OVERTON WHO HAVE INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO DO SO WITHOUT HAVING PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS ENDANGER THEIR ABILITY TO EARN A RETURN.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THE GREEN IS OBVIOUSLY PROPONENTS IN KEEPING WITH THE CITY'S COLOR SCHEME.

THE RED ARE OPPOSED.

BLUE IS SCHOOLS, YELLOW OR GOLD IS CHURCHES, AND THEN BROWN IS PARKS.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO START THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION BY ASKING EVERYONE THAT IS HERE IN OPPOSITION TO PLEASE STAND.

THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE CART CROWD A LITTLE SMALLER.

NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT DONE.

STAND UP. STAND UP.

EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT OWN PROPERTY IN SOUTH OVERTON, PLEASE SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU. NOW, EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN SOUTH OVERTON, A HOMEOWNER.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. EVERYONE ELSE, SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU. NOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL HERE TODAY, FOLKS, AND THIS IS A VERY SHORT TERM PROJECT.

I WAS SET FOR TRIAL IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PNC MEETING.

COULDN'T EVEN TOUCH THIS TILL ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

AND SO WITH THE HELP OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, WE CAME UP WITH THIS.

LET'S BREAK DOWN THE NUMBERS.

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AND THAT'S I BROUGHT A NOTEBOOK FULL OF RESPONSES THIS THICK.

SUBJECT PROPERTY.

ONE PERSON THERE ARE 15.

TRACKS. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY MR. ABRAHAM'S DEVELOPMENT. HE'S BEEN HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR ASSEMBLING THESE PROPERTIES FOR YEARS NOW.

MR. ABRAHAM ALSO OWNS WITHIN 200FT ANOTHER TEN PROPERTIES OUTSIDE THE 200FT.

MR. ABRAHAM OWNS ANOTHER TWO PROPERTIES.

SO MR. ABRAHAM OWNS A TOTAL OF 27 PROPERTIES IN SOUTH OVERTON THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY.

AND AGAIN THIS IS VERY FAST AND LOOSE.

IT CAME TOGETHER IN ABOUT A WEEK.

AND SO IF MY NUMBERS ARE NOT EXACTLY RIGHT I APOLOGIZE.

BUT WE TRIED TO MAKE A GOOD FAITH REPRESENTATION NOW IN THE RESPONSES THAT CAME TO Y'ALL AND WERE GOING BY WHAT IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO REAL TIME DATA.

AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THIS IS A GUESSTIMATE.

BUT I WAS ABLE TO LOCATE SEVEN NONRESIDENT OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.

SO BETWEEN THOSE SEVEN OWNERS, WE'VE GOT NINE PROPERTIES.

SO WE'VE GOT A TOTAL OF EIGHT PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY IN SOUTH OVERTON, WHO OWN 36 TRACKS IN FAVOR.

THE REST OF THAT BIG STACK ARE NON-OWNER RESPONSES 123.

LIVE IN LUBBOCK 20 LIVE OUTSIDE OF LUBBOCK.

AND SO I WILL REPRESENT TO YOU THAT MANY OF THOSE APPEAR TO BE TEXAS TECH STUDENTS, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH SKIN IN THE GAME, AND HERE'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION.

WE WERE ABLE TO LOCATE 48 HOMEOWNERS WHO OWNED 35 TRACKS IN THE AREA.

NOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL GOING TO COME UP HERE AND TALK.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THIS AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, BUT THEY ARE STILL THERE.

MANY OF THEM ARE OLDER.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR 40, 50, 60 YEARS IN THEIR HOMES.

THERE IS ONE COUPLE THAT IS NOW IN THEIR 90S AND THEY STILL ARE ABLE TO LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.

THEIR GRANDCHILDREN LIVE WITH THEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE HOME.

NOW LET'S GO TO THE NONRESIDENT OWNERS.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY BUT LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

LUBBOCK RESIDENTS THERE ARE 15 WHO OWN 59 TRACKS.

DAVID MILLER IS HERE. HE'S ONE OF THEM.

HE DOES A FABULOUS JOB WITH HIS HOUSES.

NON RESIDENT OWNERS.

NON LUBBOCK RESIDENTS TEN PEOPLE 14.

SO WE'VE GOT A TOTAL NUMBER OF TRACKS OF 108 TRACKS IN SOUTH OVERTON OWNED BY 73 PEOPLE.

WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON CHASING THE RENTERS OR THE NONRESIDENTS.

THE FEW OF THEM WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO GIVE US THE REPLIES, SO WE HAVE FEWER REPLIES.

IN THE APPLICANTS DO.

BUT WE THINK OURS.

OR BEAR MORE RELATION.

IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I STARTED THIS.

THE VERY FIRST THING THAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT SO THAT THESE OWNERS, THESE TRACT OWNERS, CAN RELY ON THE CITY TO PROMOTE THE STABILITY AND WELL-BEING OF THE COMMUNITY AND OFFER CERTAINTY TO THE CITY'S CITIZENS REGARDING THE USE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY HAVE INVESTED THEIR LIVES AND THEIR SAVINGS.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS MAP TELLS YOU, FOLKS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE OVER THE LAST WEEK TO WEEK AND A HALF ARE RESOUNDINGLY AGAINST THIS APPLICATION, NOT ONLY FOR FINANCIAL REASONS BUT FOR PERSONAL REASONS.

AND YOU SAW THAT EARLIER WITH BIAS GIRLS.

THERE IS VIBRANCY IN THIS AREA.

THERE ARE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN IN THIS AREA.

THERE ARE YOUNG COUPLES IN THIS AREA.

TORRON AND HIS WIFE WANT TO BUY A HOUSE IN THIS AREA.

THEY RENT FROM US.

WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEM FIND A HOUSE TO BUY BECAUSE LIKE TECH TERRACE, THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE.

MARKETABLE TO A YOUNGER GENERATION, AND THERE IS A MARKET SEGMENT THAT WANTS HOMES LIKE THESE.

BUT IF YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY TO THE POINT.

WHERE THEY CANNOT LIVE THERE, WHERE THEY CANNOT START A FAMILY THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK ELSEWHERE.

AND AS YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY OF AN AREA, YOU MAKE IT LESS LIVABLE FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS AND YOU MAKE IT LESS DESIRABLE FOR FAMILIES MOVING FORWARD. SO.

BACK TO WHAT MISS SAGER REPRESENTED TO EARLIER.

AND I'LL TRY TO WRAP THIS UP.

I WILL NOTE WE ARE AT 22% NOW, AND I'M SORRY, THIS CAME IN LATE THIS MORNING AND SO WE DID NOT GET THIS TO YOU IN TIME, OR AT LEAST NOT IN YOUR PACKET. THERE IS ANOTHER RESPONSE.

THAT'S MORE THE COST OF 22%.

THE GENTLEMAN WHO SENT THAT TO ME WAS OUT OF TOWN.

I DID NOT EXPECT HIS CALL.

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AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS, FOLKS, IT'S NOT BEEN A HARD SELL.

I DON'T THINK A SINGLE PERSON HAS TURNED THIS DOWN.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DENSITY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT.

HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS PROJECT WOULD BRING TO THIS SMALL HALF AREA THAT IS ALREADY OVERBURDENED? IT'S A NO BRAINER.

PARALLEL BUILDS A GOOD PROJECT.

THEY ARE QUALIFIED, EXCELLENT PROFESSIONALS AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE WRONG PROJECT AND THE WRONG PLACE.

IT IS TOO BIG, IT HAS TOO MANY NEGATIVE RAMIFICATIONS.

AND WE WOULD URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE THIS APPLICATION NOW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET UP AND SPEAK.

BUT FOLLOWING TED HOGAN IN THOSE FIVE PRECIOUS GIRLS, I'M FEELING WOEFULLY INADEQUATE RIGHT NOW.

AND GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M TONYA HAGEE, VALDINE.

I'M A HOMEOWNER AT 1704 AVENUE X PROPERTY INVESTMENT OWNER AT 2007 16TH, WHICH I'M GOING TO BRAG JUST A LITTLE BIT, WAS JUST IN THE AJ IS ONE OF THE FIVE MOST UNIQUE AIRBNBS IN LUBBOCK.

STOP STOP STOP. MAYOR PAYNE, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, WELCOME ON BOARD.

BOY, DID YOU COME ON AT A GREAT TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, COUNCILWOMAN MARTINEZ GARCIA, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TRAP YOU AT THE LUCCA GALA AND TALK YOUR EAR OFF ABOUT CITY BUSINESS WHEN YOU WERE OUT ON A DATE. THAT'S WHAT CHRISTIE DOES FOR PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DONE FOR US.

SHE HAS ADVOCATED FOR THE RESIDENTS IN HER DISTRICT LIKE NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

AND WE ARE FOREVER GRATEFUL THAT SHE HAS BEEN ALONG FOR THIS RIDE.

A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, I CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THIS VERY SAME THING LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, WE TRIED, IN DEFERENCE TO EVERYONE'S TIME AND YOUR EARS, WE DIVIDED AND CONQUERED.

WE ASSIGNED RESIDENTS TO SAY CERTAIN THINGS SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HEAR FROM ALL OF US.

AND WE WERE ADMONISHED BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH OF US GOT UP AND SPOKE.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET UP AND SPEAK.

THIS TIME. THEY WERE SURPRISED THAT THERE WEREN'T MORE RESIDENTS.

NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED WITH THIS PROJECT.

STILL TOO BIG.

THE ROADS STILL AREN'T WIDE ENOUGH.

STILL TOO MANY PEOPLE.

THE TRAFFIC IS STILL RIDICULOUS.

THE ONE THING THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST MEETING IS THAT I NO LONGER HAVE HAD TWO PARKED CARS HIT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

WE'VE NOW HAD A THIRD, AND THIS TIME THE RATE OF SPEED WAS SO HIGH THAT IT TOTALED BOTH VEHICLES.

IT PUSHED THE PARKED CAR 20FT FROM ITS PARKED POSITION, WHICH WAS IN FRONT OF OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH WAS BLOCKED FOR TEN DAYS WHILE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES FOUGHT OVER WHO HAD TO COME TOW THAT CAR.

THE LAW OF AVERAGES DICTATES THAT IF YOU PUT 650 PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET FROM US, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THAT.

THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

LIKE I SAID, MOST OF THIS IS JUST SCRAP HEAP NOW, BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE ISSUE WITH A COUPLE OF WAYS.

WE WERE REPRESENTED AT PNC.

JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A CERTAIN COMMISSIONER SAID TO US IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS BAD AS YOU THINK.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE READ THE TRANSCRIPTS, AND I MAY BE PARAPHRASING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE TENOR IS STILL THE SAME.

ANOTHER THING HE SAID TO US IS, HEY, LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE.

YOU GET TO HAVE THREE MONTHS FREE OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE KIDS IN THE SUMMER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS BAD AS YOU THINK, AND YOU GET TO HAVE THREE MONTHS OFF IN THE SUMMER.

YOU GET A BREAK JUST ON ITS FACE.

PLANNING AND ZONING KNOWS THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THEY ARE PUTTING DEVELOPMENT OVER RESIDENTS.

THEY ARE PUTTING A TAX BASE OVER OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

THEY KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS BAD AS YOU THINK.

MEANING IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE BAD, BUT NOT AS BAD AS YOU THINK.

AND YOU GET TO HAVE THREE WHOLE MONTHS OUT OF 12 THAT YOU WON'T BE BURDENED WITH THE DENSITY, WITH THE TRAFFIC, WITH THE NOISE, WITH THE TRASH. THEY KNOW.

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I WANT TO BEG YOU, BUT I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE GRATUITOUS.

BUT THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS.

IF YOU ALLOW THIS.

IT IS A LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DON'T VALUE US AND YOU DON'T VALUE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU ALL GET TO LIVE SOMEPLACE AND DON'T HAVE TO MESS WITH THIS.

WE DON'T. AND IF YOU ALLOW THIS.

YOU'RE PUTTING THIS ON OUR BACKS ON THOSE LITTLE GIRLS BACKS, ON THE TENANTS IN MY BACK HOUSES WHO HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OFF STREET PARKING.

YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON US.

I URGE YOU, ALONG WITH MY FELLOW RESIDENTS, TO VOTE THIS DOWN.

IT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M DOCTOR KATHERINE LANHAM.

I LIVE AT 2009 16TH STREET.

AND JUST TODAY HAPPENED TO POST A PICTURE OF OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL.

AND I WOULD INVITE PEOPLE TO COME BY AND SHARE A GLASS OF WINE WITH US SOME EVENING.

I HAD NO INTENTION OF SPEAKING TODAY, BUT I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

IN ADDITION TO LIVING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS UNIQUE IN LUBBOCK THAT HAS PROVIDED ALL KINDS OF FRIENDSHIPS AND NEIGHBOR SHIPS THAT IS NURTURING OUR KIDS.

THE THING THAT HAS CAUGHT MY ATTENTION THIS AFTERNOON IS ARE THE COMMENTS BY THE ARCHITECTS, BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN I AM ABOUT THOSE THINGS, ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD SET UP FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE HEARD IT SAID THIS AFTERNOON AND NEED TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A PROJECT DETERMINATION, BUT A POLICY AND ZONING DETERMINATION.

AND I WANT YOU TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, BECAUSE WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH MR. ABRAHAMS PROJECT, IF THE ZONING IS CHANGED, YOU HAVE SET IT UP FOR MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SUCK DRY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I LOVE SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I AM GEORGIA BENTON.

I'M AT 2208 16TH STREET.

AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR HAVING US.

AND WELCOME, AS TONYA SAID, WELCOME TO THE TO THE GAME.

NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO OR NOT, BUT I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.

AND IN DEFERENCE TO MAYOR PAYNE'S REQUEST FOR BREVITY.

WE'VE HEARD EVERYTHING ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DENSITY.

I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT AS IT'S PROPOSED.

ON ITS FACE, I AM TO TED'S AND TED'S VEIN VERY OPEN TO CONVERSATION OR ANYTHING THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S LESS DENSE.

THAT PARALLEL CAN DO.

THEY ARE EXTREMELY CAPABLE AND HAVE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS.

I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NO ONE'S TOUCHED ON YET.

IN MY OPINION.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ANOTHER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WERE REFERENCED RECENTLY BY A FORMER FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AS A BLIGHT AND AS A BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK THAT FOR MOST OF US WHO'VE STOOD UP AND SPOKEN TODAY COULD NOT BE MORE LIKE OFFENDED AND INSULTED AND DISAGREE WITH THAT DESCRIPTION.

WE ARE VERY PROUD OF WHERE WE LIVE AND WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALL HERE, IS BECAUSE WE CARE.

AND I HOPE YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT AND FEEL THAT FROM EVERYONE WHO'S GOTTEN UP TO SPEAK TODAY.

IT COMES FROM THE HEART.

WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND WE WANT TO THROW OUR FULL WEIGHT BEHIND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO.

IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOPEFULLY FIND A PARTNER WHEN DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE, TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS WITH ONE ANOTHER AND WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THIS COMMON GOAL.

BUT AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW I'M IN OPPOSITION, SO THERE YOU GO.

I THINK I MAY HAVE SAID THE LEAST WORDS TODAY OF EVERYONE.

Y'ALL ARE WELCOME. THANK YOU GUYS.

[02:50:07]

HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.

I AM ROGER SETTLER, A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC BROADWAY CORRIDOR AT 2120 BROADWAY.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE, TO FOLLOW SUCH WELL-RESEARCHED SPEAKERS AS TED HOGAN'S AND THESE DARLING GIRLS WHO MADE A VERY HEARTFELT PRESENTATION. AND I THINK WE WERE ALL MORE HOPEFUL FOR THE FUTURE WHEN WE SEE YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

I AM PRESIDENT OF CONGRESS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND OFFICER OF THE HISTORIC OVERTON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND I WOULD LIKE AT THIS TIME, FOR EVERYONE THAT IS HERE WHO IS AN OFFICER OR PRESIDENT, PAST OR PRESENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO STAND.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF YOU.

YEAH. AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MOVEMENT IS FINALLY COMING TOGETHER, AND WE'RE UNITED IN OUR DESIRE TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OPPOSE THE HOLLOWING OUT THAT IS TAKING PLACE WHERE OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING FORGOTTEN IN THE RUSH TO PROMOTE GROWTH AND ANNEXATIONS.

AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO EXAMINE TOGETHER THE EFFICACY OF GROWTH AND ANNEXATION, BECAUSE THE QUESTION MUST BE ASKED.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE CHARACTERIZED, UNFORTUNATELY, AS ANTI-GROWTH, WE ARE PRO SUSTAINABILITY.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE WORD OF THE FUTURE THAT WE MUST CONCENTRATE ON IS WHAT IS SUSTAINABLE.

FACE IT, FOLKS, WE LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF BASICALLY A DESERT.

THEY HAVE ARID AND SEMI-ARID AREAS, AND WE'RE CONSIDERED SEMI-ARID.

WELL, MOST OF US KNOW THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH A DESERT.

WE'RE ALSO VERY REMOTE.

WE'RE UNIQUE IN BEING A VERY LARGE CITY, 300 TO 500 MILES AWAY FROM OTHER POPULATION CENTERS.

AND IT IS THAT REMOTENESS THAT MAKES US UNIQUE, BUT ALSO WORKS AGAINST US IN TERMS OF BRINGING PEOPLE HERE.

AND THE QUESTION MUST BE ASKED, DO WE REALLY WANT LUBBOCK TO BECOME A CITY OF 500 MILLION PEOPLE? I REMEMBER WELL WHEN AUSTIN WAS ABOUT OUR SIZE AND PEOPLE CALLED IT SAID KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD.

EVERYBODY LOVED AUSTIN.

WE LOVED GOING DOWN THERE FOR THE AMBIANCE, FOR THE LIVABILITY, THE FRIENDLINESS OF THE PEOPLE THERE.

NOW, SADLY, AUSTIN HAS BEEN TRANSFORMED INTO YET ANOTHER BIG CITY WITH ALL THE BIG CITY PROBLEMS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.

AND AT SOME POINT, AGAIN, WE MUST EXAMINE.

DO WE WANT LUBBOCK TO FOLLOW THAT PATH, OR IS IT BETTER TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND REALIZED THAT PERHAPS IT'S BEST TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE AND TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE? I COULD GO INTO ALL THE CITY ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN LOST, TORN DOWN OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE LOST.

AND IF YOU READ MY PUBLICATION, THE BYSTANDER I HAVE A LIST OF THOSE.

WELL IN THAT PUBLICATION THIS MORNING MY HEADLINE WAS SAME SONG, SECOND VERSE.

AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN ON AUGUST THE 23RD, THE CITY COUNCIL, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR GOOD MAYOR, VOTED AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.

AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH A PROPOSAL BEFORE US.

AGAIN, I WOULD SUGGEST STRONGLY AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE NO.

JUST SAY NO TO THIS PROPOSAL.

THOSE OF US WHO BELIEVE IN SUSTAINABILITY DO NOT OPPOSE REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT.

OVERTON IS DOTTED.

BOTH OVERTON NORTH AND OVERTON SOUTH ARE DOTTED WITH THREE AND FOUR STOREY APARTMENT BUILDINGS WHICH ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE AREA WHICH DON'T REPRESENT A HUGE INTRUSION OF POPULATION, PARKING OR DENSITY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ARE NOT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO IS OPPOSED TO REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT KIND, BUT WHEN THE FINANCIAL DREAMS AND ASPIRATIONS OF DEVELOPERS COME TO, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A SEVEN STORY BUILDING OUR TALLER TO SUSTAIN US TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY PROFITABLE, WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK AT OVERTON NORTH, WHICH I HATE TO SAY, IT IS GOING TO PROVE TO BE A FAILED EXPERIMENT IN THE FUTURE.

NOW LIVING ON BROADWAY, I ALREADY SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF THAT.

I LIVE ACROSS FROM THE CONDOS ON MAIN STREET, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, OVERTON NORTH IS WELL ON ITS WAY TO BECOMING A VAST SLUM, AND WE DON'T

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WE DON'T WANT OVERTON'S PLOWED UNDER FOR MORE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

BUT THE DEVELOPERS WHO WANT SEVEN STOREY, EIGHT STOREY, NINE STOREY STRUCTURES INEVITABLY SAY, WELL, IT'S ONLY THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT THAT MAKES US WANT TO DO THIS.

WELL, THE THING IS IF YOU LOOK AT OVER TO NORRIS, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEGINNING TO FALL IN DISREPAIR IF YOU TALK TO INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS. AND WHEN I TALK TO MY FRATERNITY BROTHERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'LL TELL YOU, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN OVERTON NORTH BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE IS REALLY GONE DOWNHILL.

THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL BUILDERS AND OWNERS OF OVERTON SOUTH, ONE BY ONE OVER TO NORRIS, ONE BY ONE, HAVE FLIPPED THEIR PROPERTIES JUST LIKE YOU FLIP HOUSES.

AND NOW OUT OF TOWN, COMPANIES FROM CHICAGO, NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES OWN THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND THE STUDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS THERE WILL TELL YOU, AS SOON AS THE OUT-OF-TOWN ABSENTEE LANDLORDS TAKE OVER, MAINTENANCE GOES DOWN, THE QUALITY OF LIFE GOES DOWN.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE SUFFERED IN HISTORIC OVERTON OVER THE YEARS.

WE'VE WATCHED AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ONCE CARROLL THOMPSON WAS CLOSED AND DEMOLISHED, WE'VE WATCHED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GO INTO INEVITABLE URBAN DECAY CAUSED BY ABSENTEE LANDLORDS. NOW, WHEN YOU BUILD A HIGH DENSITY PROJECT, THAT IS ONE OF THE INEVITABLE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU.

I SUBMIT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ALTURA TOWERS.

I REMEMBER WELL VISITING DOCTOR SELBY.

HE WAS CHIEF OF STAFF AT METHODIST HOSPITAL IN THOSE DAYS, MADE 500,000 A YEAR.

HE CHOSE TO LIVE IN ALTURA TOWERS BECAUSE IT WAS A PREMIER APARTMENT BUILDING, A PRIDE, THE PRIDE OF LUBBOCK AT THE TIME.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT'S BECOME TODAY IT'S A SAD AND SORRY STATE OF AFFAIRS OVER THERE.

AND WE'VE SEEN THIS IN THE BIG CITIES WHEN THE GREAT SOCIETY INITIATIVES OF THE 60S AND 70S WERE PROMULGATED A LOT OF MULTI-STORY, HIGH DENSITY PROJECTS WERE BUILT ALL OVER THE BIG CITIES.

THEY WERE CALLED TENEMENTS.

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE TENEMENTS? THEY INVARIABLY FELL INTO DECLINE.

AND THE RESIDENTS EXPERIENCED CRIME.

THEY EXPERIENCED MISERY AND DEGRADATION AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN OVERTON AND OUR OTHER OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.

BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION PRESSURES CAUSED BY HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS.

IT DOES SADDEN ME TO THINK THAT KEN ABRAHAM TALKS ABOUT HIS LEGACY AND HE WANTS HIS LEGACY TO BE A MULTI-STORY BUILDING.

AND WHEN I WENT IN TO LONDON, I WENT INTO THE GREAT CATHEDRAL THERE.

AND CHRISTIAN SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN, WHO BUILT THAT CATHEDRAL IS HONORED BY A PLAQUE THAT READS SI MONUMENTUM REQUIRIS CIRCUM SPEECH.

IF YOU SEEK HIS MONUMENT, LOOK AROUND YOU.

DO WE WANT OUR MONUMENT TO BE YET ANOTHER HIGH DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE NEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE JUST TAKEN THEIR SEATS? DO YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE.

I HELPED DEVELOP A HIGH DENSITY HOUSING PROJECT WHICH RESULTED IN URBAN DECAY.

I WOULD RATHER THINK THAT A FAR BETTER LEGACY FOR YOU AND FOR US, WOULD BE AN AFFIRMATION OF THE LEGITIMATE ASPIRATIONS OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, OF THE PEOPLE.

AND WHEN THE FIGHTING BOB LA FOLLETTE, THE SENATOR FROM WISCONSIN, SAID POLITICS IS AN ETERNAL STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE RULING ELITES AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

WELL, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WHEN OUR GOVERNMENT SIDE WITH THE PEOPLE, THEIR REMAINING TRUE TO TO TRUE TO THEIR CALLING, AND I CHALLENGE YOU TODAY, REMAIN TRUE TO YOUR CALLING.

REMAIN TRUE TO THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS WHO CALL WITH ONE VOICE.

JUST SAY NO TO THIS HORRIBLY INAPPROPRIATE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. HELLO.

CITY COUNCIL. MAYOR PAYNE, MY NAME IS JOSH STOOVÉ.

I AM THE PASTOR AT SAINT JOHN'S UNITED METHODIST CHURCH AT 1501 UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

I ALSO LIVE IN THE SOUTH OVERTON NEIGHBORHOOD ON 17TH STREET.

SO MY FAMILY AND OUR TWO YOUNG CHILDREN ALSO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY HERE.

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SEVERAL HAVE TALKED ALREADY, AND TOGETHER WE OPPOSE THIS FOR ALL OF THE REASONS ALREADY MENTIONED.

I THINK REGARDLESS OF ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST NINE MONTHS, THIS IS SIMPLY WRONG.

THE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE PROJECT, AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO STAND WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, WE OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CLIVE JAMES AND MY PLACE IS AT 1908 14TH. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL OVER THE YEARS A MILLION TIMES ABOUT DETAIL AFTER DETAIL AFTER DETAIL.

I WANT TO BACK OFF FROM THE DETAILS AND ADDRESS.

JUST GIVE YOU THREE LITTLE FACTOIDS THAT GO TO THE ISSUE OF HISTORICAL.

1926, MY FAMILY MOVED TO 2401 14TH STREET, WHICH IS IN THIS AREA, AND AT THAT PLACE MY GRANDMOTHER RAN A BOARDING HOUSE FOR TECH STUDENTS.

WELL, HOW IS THAT HISTORICAL? HAS EVERYBODY HEARD OF BERL HUFFMAN? POPE ROBINSON THEY LIVED IN THE LINDSAY FAMILY BOARDING HOUSE IN OVERTON.

THEN THEY LATER MOVED TO THE MY PROPERTY AT 1908 14TH.

AND WHEN MY GRANDMOTHER DIED IN 1973, I BOUGHT IT AND MOVED IN THERE.

IT HAPPENS TO BE THE OLDEST CONTINUOUSLY OCCUPIED HOUSE INSIDE THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1909 AND THERE IS NO OLDER HOUSE IN LUBBOCK OCCUPIED CONTINUOUSLY.

THAT'S THE SECOND FACTOID.

SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT NORTH OVERTON IS NO LONGER THERE IN SOUTH OVERTON IS.

WHY IS THAT TRUE? LINDA HOGAN HAS BEEN INVOLVED FOR 50 YEARS.

TEDDY SINCE HE TED SINCE HE WAS IN THE FIRST GRADE.

HERSCHEL. MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE LUBBOCK CEMETERY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR 50 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR 50 YEARS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

THAT'S WHY SOUTH OVERTON IS STILL THERE.

AND THERE'S MY THIRD, THIRD FACTOID ADDRESSING THE CONCEPT OF HISTORICAL.

THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT SO LONG, WE'VE BECOME HISTORICAL.

IF YOU SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE MIGHT BE LIVING THERE 15 YEARS NOW OR 50 YEARS FROM NOW AND BE HISTORICAL TO.

I JUST LOVE COMING TO THESE SO I CAN SEE TED'S PRESENTATION.

I THINK I'VE GOT ONE POINT LEFT TO MAKE.

THANK YOU. ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT.

WE WHENEVER SOME OF THESE TOPICS START HITTING SO CLOSE TO HOME AND IMPACTING YOUR LIVELIHOOD, THEN YOU DO START PAYING A LOT MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT'S SAID IN THESE CAMPAIGNS.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHO IS KIND OF MAKING PARTICULAR POINTS.

SO WE WE, WE KIND OF RESHAPED WHAT WE WERE GOING TO SAY TODAY BASED UPON THE MAYORAL. DEBATE AND THEN TOOK SOME THINGS DIRECTLY YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE TRANSCRIPT.

AND AND KIND OF TIED SOME THINGS AROUND THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE FIRST POINT IS THAT.

YOU KNOW WHO COULD LOOK AT NORTH OVERTON AND WHAT IS BUILT THERE, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN AVENUE X AND AVENUE? OH, AND QUESTION.

IF THAT IS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

AND AGAIN, THE POINT THAT WAS MADE BY JIM BERTRAM IS THAT IS CLEARLY WHAT IS AVAILABLE TODAY.

AS A RESULT OF THE INITIAL.

ZONING CHANGE.

IT WAS GRANTED ON THESE 15 LOTS OF CASE 2016 A SO IF THAT'S THERE TODAY AND IF YOU KNOW EVERYONE KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CLEARLY ON NORTH OVERTON.

YOU KNOW ALL OF THOSE ARE PREDOMINANTLY ALL OF THOSE THREE AND FOUR STORY MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES, YOU KNOW,

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SURELY NO ONE CAN CONTINUE TO QUESTION, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS CANDIDATE IS ANTI-GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE ARE ANTI GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY ALL OF US ARE PRO GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ALSO AS A MATTER OF FACT.

WE, MY WIFE AND I, MARY, AND I I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

WE'RE PRESENTLY RESIDING.

4625 94TH STREET.

KELLY AND MARY ANN.

AND. COUNCIL MEMBER ROSA'S DISTRICT.

BUT WE HAVE LIVED VERY MEANINGFUL PERIODS OF OUR LIFETIMES.

IN THE 2300 BLOCK OF 14TH STREET IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THERE THAT WE CONTINUE TO OWN.

AND AND THIS YEAR.

2024 REPRESENTS THE 50TH YEAR SINCE WE PURCHASED OUR FIRST HOME THERE, AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO THIS BLOCK AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ACTUALLY BUILT SOME MULTIFAMILY FOURPLEXES AND WE. WHO ACTUALLY WENT AND IDENTIFIED.

ZONING. THAT WAS ZONED FOR FOURPLEX CONSTRUCTION.

YOU KNOW, REALLY EXPECTING THAT ZONING IN PLACE.

IN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN THE CITY OF LUBBOCK ACTUALLY MEANT SOMETHING.

SO WE WENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD OFF UNIVERSITY AT 74TH STREET, A NICE LITTLE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD CUL DE SACS, YOU KNOW, AN EXCLUSIVELY FOR DUPLEX, FOUR PLEX AS A BUFFER BETWEEN A TV STATION WITH A TV ANTENNA.

YOU KNOW THAT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THAT ANTENNA, IT WAS GOING TO FALL INTO THAT MULTI-FAMILY AREA AND NOT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, WHEN ZONING WAS WAS INTENDED, YOU KNOW, TO BUFFER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE FOR ZONING AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE DOING AS THE LAND USE PLAN AND THE AND THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

STIPULATED. SO THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.

YOU KNOW, IN THE MAYORAL CAMPAIGN, IN ADDITION TO ALL THESE ISSUES ABOUT ANTI GROWTH AND PRO GROWTH.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA. WHICH HOPEFULLY.

HAS BEEN PUT TO REST FOR PEOPLE.

IN THE CAMPAIGN, AS WELL AS PEOPLE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THIS ISSUE AND THIS ZONING CASE, WHICH AGAIN, THIS ZONING CASE SEEMS TO BE KIND OF THE FLASHPOINT FOR FOR SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION.

THERE'S. I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT REAL QUICK.

I WANT TO TRY TO KEEP THIS JUST TO THIS ZONING CASE, AND I WANT TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION AND THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THIS SPECIFIC ZONING CASE, AND NOT DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYORAL RACES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BODY AT THIS TIME.

I'M SORRY. MY MY MAYOR PAYING MY MY HEARING IS TERRIBLE.

IT'S OKAY. EVIDENTLY MY RIGHT EAR DOESN'T WORK TODAY EITHER, SO IT'S OKAY.

LET'S JUST KEEP THE DISCUSSION TO THE ZONING CASE, OKAY? AND I BELIEVE THERE'S TALK ABOUT THE TAX BASE.

IS THAT THAT AN APPROPRIATE TOPIC.

SO LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF OF THE TAX BASE.

CLEARLY THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A POINT.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

AND THE POINT IS MADE ABOUT THIS PROJECT BEING VITAL TO OUR TAX BASE.

SO MY QUESTION IS HOW VITAL IS IT? SO IF YOU AGAIN, IF YOU DO THE MATH, THERE'S BEEN REFERENCE WITH WITH ALL OF THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ALL OVER NORTH OVERTON.

THERE'S ONE THAT'S NOT MEDIUM DENSITY.

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SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU LOOK AT THE 2023 ASSESSED VALUE.

YOU LOOK AT THE TAX RATE.

HOW VITAL IS THAT CONTRIBUTION TO THE $968 MILLION 2023 BUDGET? YOU WOULD THINK WITH ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, IT MUST BE VERY, VERY SUBSTANTIAL.

IF YOU DO THE MATH, 8/10 OF ONE HOUR OF ONE WEEK OF THE YEAR IS THE CITY. TAX PROPERTY.

PROPERTY TAX RATE CONTRIBUTION FROM FROM THAT REFERENCED SEVEN STORY COMPARABLE.

8/10 OF ONE HOUR OF THE YEAR OF THE.

ANNUAL CITY BUDGET.

THAT'S HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT IS.

MAYBE THIS PROJECT GOING TO BE MORE GOING TO BE LESS WHATEVER.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE THE POINT IS 48 MINUTES OF THE ANNUAL CITY BUDGET 2023 PAID BY, YOU KNOW, THIS REFERENCE YOU LOST QUESTION BECOMES, IS THAT WORTH THROWING ALL THESE CITIZENS, ALL THESE HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS UNDER THE BUS FOR, AGAIN, TAX BASE? AGAIN, YOU CAN DO THE MATH IF YOU WANT ME TO WALK THROUGH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M PERFECTLY FINE TO MOVE ON.

YOU KNOW THE ALSO THERE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE OF THE TAX BASE, BUILDING THE TAX BASE, PROTECTING THE TAX BASE.

SO REALLY.

WHAT IS THE TAX BASE IF NOT FOR THE PEOPLE? YOU KNOW, IF IF THE TAX BASE IS NOT THERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE, THEN WHY IS IT THERE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE REASON YOU COLLECT TAXES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, IF THE PEOPLE ARE COMPLETELY OBJECTING TO THIS OR THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ARE SUBSTANTIALLY THE MOST IMPACTED ARE SO ADAMANTLY AGAINST IT, THEN WHAT POINT IS THERE TO SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS FOR THE TAX BASE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OFFENDING THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SO ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT.

TO MAKE ANY SENSE.

YOU MAY NOT AGREE, BUT I HOPE YOU'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING MY LOGIC.

IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

IT'S ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW? AND IF YOU'RE OFFENDING ALL THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW WITH THE IDEA THAT, WELL, WE GOT TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE TAX BASE, THAT IT WOULD SEEM YOU'RE COMPLETELY DEFEATING THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING THE TAX BASE.

YOU KNOW, IF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT PLEASED WITH WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT, PARTICULARLY THOSE MOST IMPACTED.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYBODY'S TAXES PAID ARE NOT SIGNIFICANT.

CERTAINLY THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, THAT THE TAXES PAID BY THE COMPARABLE PROJECT REFERENCE BY THE DEVELOPERS IS LESS THAN ONE FIFTH OF THE.

DIRECT PROPERTY DAMAGE.

INCURRED WHEN THE LITTLE OVER ONE INCH RAIN CAME AND FLOODED THE BASEMENT OF THIS BUILDING.

LESS THAN ONE FIFTH OF THAT INITIAL REPORTED PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR FOR JUST THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO PROPERTY AND EQUIPMENT IN THE BASEMENT.

THE TECHNOLOGY, THE SHEETROCK, THE WIRING, ETC., ETC.

NOT COUNTING ALL OF THE OTHER IMPACTS ON PRODUCTIVITY, UTILITIES, ETC.

ETC. YOU KNOW THIS, THESE TAXES PAID LESS THAN ONE FIFTH OF THAT AMOUNT.

IF WE KIND OF PICK UP ON THE POINT.

OF TED'S PRESENTATION WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ANTI-EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PICTURE THAT WAS HANDED OUT IS BSM.

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WE NEED ABSOLUTELY NEED MORE AND MORE AND MORE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE BSM.

YOU KNOW, WE PLAYED A VERY SMALL ROLE IN THAT WHEN WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THEIR EXISTING FACILITY AND NEEDED TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE VICINITY WHERE THEY COULD SUPERVISE THE DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION AND JUST OR MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHERE THEY COULD CONTINUE THEIR MINISTRY, THEIR THEIR VERY CRITICAL MINISTRY TO THE STUDENTS ON THE TECH CAMPUS.

AND AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LOCATED IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT'S ON THE CORNER JUST NEXT TO THE 15 LOTS.

YOU KNOW WHERE THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS? IT'S 13TH AND AVENUE X WHERE THAT'S 14TH, AND AVENUE X, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE NEXT CORNER OVER.

FABULOUS, FABULOUS.

ADDITION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE OTHER PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

REPRESENT FOUR OF THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED.

FROM THE GROUND UP HOMES ON OUR LITTLE 2300 BLOCK OF 14TH STREET.

BRAND NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH IN RECENT YEARS.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TYING BACK TO THIS ISSUE OF.

BLOODED, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS ARE NOT HELPFUL TO LENDERS, TO REALTORS, YOU KNOW, TO PEOPLE SEEKING REASONABLY PRICED HOUSING, YOU KNOW, AND AND BELIEVE ME, OVER 50 YEARS WE HAVE HAD TO OVERCOME SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES WITH REGARD TO.

COMMENTS MADE BY INDIVIDUALS, BY THE MEDIA, FROM ALL KINDS OF PLACES TECH, GHETTO, ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHETHER INTENDED OR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE, ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE MADE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF SETTINGS.

AND THEN THEN THEY'RE PICKED UP IN THE MEDIA AND, AND THEN HERE WE GO AGAIN.

THE ANOTHER POINT ABOUT THESE PHOTOGRAPHS IS THAT THERE'S MORE THAN A HALF DOZEN OF THESE HOMES JUST IN THIS BLOCK THAT HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY RENOVATED IN THE VERY RECENT PAST.

AGAIN, MORE RENOVATION IN THIS AREA THAN THAN WE HAVE OBSERVED IN IN THE FIVE DECADES THAT THAT WE HAVE OWNED ONE OF THESE HOMES IN THESE PICTURES, AND IN PARTICULARLY TWO OF THE HOMES THAT ARE PICTURED HERE THAT THERE IS.

CURRENTLY VERY SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION GOING ON.

INTERNAL RENOVATION COSTING UPWARDS OF SIX FIGURES FOR THE RENOVATION.

AND I JUST WANT TO CONTRAST WHAT PEOPLE RENOVATING THESE HOMES.

A HALF BLOCK TWO THIRDS OF A BLOCK.

FROM THESE 15 BLOCKS OR ARE GOING THROUGH.

COMPARED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED.

THESE THESE PEOPLE.

ONE OF THEM.

AN ARCHITECT WHO'S MANAGING ONE OF THE PROJECTS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHOSE DAUGHTER AND A.

ROOMMATE WANT TO MOVE INTO THIS PLACE? OWNER. OCCUPIED.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO FINISH IT OUT WITH ARTIFICIAL SURFACE.

YARD IN THE FRONT.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

THE OTHER PROPERTY.

HAS POURED A A CONCRETE PARKING PAD.

CIRCLE DRIVEWAY TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE EXISTING.

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AND IT'S JUST SUCH A CHALLENGE TO TO FIND PARKING ALREADY ON THESE, ON THESE NARROW BRICK STREETS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR IT OUT.

HOW CAN IT POSSIBLY BE? THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO RENOVATE THESE HOMES, TO INVEST.

$100,000 PLUS.

TO. REMOVE THE BLOOD TO ADDRESS THE BLOOD, IF THAT'S WHAT SOMEONE WOULD CALL IT.

AND YET HALF A BLOCK DOWN THE STREET, SOMEONE ELSE WITH A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST CAN BUILD A 75 FOOT WALL IN THAT SAME SPACE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND WHERE THEIR ORIGINAL THAT ORIGINAL.

SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

WAS LOCATED.

HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY? YOU KNOW, IT'S REMARKABLE TO ME THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

COULD COULD EVEN POSSIBLY COME THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

WITH THAT KIND OF DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE WAY PEOPLE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND ALL OF THIS.

RESIDENTIAL. OVERTON SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD, TRYING TO TRYING TO FIX THINGS AS BEST THEY CAN UNDER THE GUIDELINES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED UPON US.

AND YET HALF A BLOCK, TWO THIRDS OF A BLOCK DOWN THE STREET, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING GOES.

75 FOOT WALLS.

NO PROBLEM.

DEVIATION ON THE SETBACK FROM 14TH STREET.

NO PROBLEM. DEVIATION ON THE SETBACK FROM AVENUE X.

NO PROBLEM. DEVIATION ON THE AMOUNT OF THE LOT YOU CAN COVER.

NO PROBLEM. DEVIATION ON PARKING SPACES? NO PROBLEM. DEVIATION ON CLOSING UP THE ALLEY.

NO PROBLEM.

BUT YOU CAN'T PUT ARTIFICIAL SURFACE ON YOUR LAWN HALF A BLOCK DOWN THE STREET.

YOU KNOW, THE THE 2318 CAN'T EVEN SELECT THEIR OWN PAINT COLOR.

HOW CAN THIS MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY? NO, WE HAVE SAID.

IN MULTIPLE WAYS THAT WE HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.

TO DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

YOU KNOW OUR COMPANY.

WAS ORIGINALLY IN OFFICE SPACE IN THE THREE FLOORS IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THIS BUILDING, AND WE WERE THE FIRST TO GO INTO THE DEVASTATED AREA BY THE TORNADO AND AND REBUILD AT 1602 10TH STREET, DIAGONALLY ACROSS FROM THE CIVIC CENTER, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT THAT WE WERE SHOWING THAT OTHER BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS AND AND COMMERCIAL ENTITIES WOULD FOLLOW.

AND IN NOT MANY DID YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN COMMITTED TO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND HOPEFULLY WE PUT THESE KIND OF ISSUES TO BED.

HOPEFULLY WE PUT THIS ISSUE ABOUT BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD TO BED.

YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE MEDIA WON'T CONTINUE TO PROPAGATE THAT.

YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO SEE THINGS OUR WAY WON'T USE THOSE THINGS AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR WHATEVER POSITION THAT, THAT YOU PARTICULARLY SUPPORT.

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AND ONE OF THE EARLY EXPERIENCES I HAD WAS WITH FIRST NATIONAL BANK AND LUBBOCK, THE LARGEST BANK IN LUBBOCK IN WEST TEXAS, 1500 BROADWAY.

CHAIRMAN OF THAT ORGANIZATION, JIM MULLEN, TAUGHT ME A LESSON I'LL NEVER FORGET, AND I SURE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE HERE.

YOU KNOW, IT.

VERY LARGE DECISION.

WE WERE LOOKING AT IT GOT TO THE CHAIRMAN'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, AND HE'S KIND OF SITTING THERE AND HE'S HAD A CIGAR HE'S CHEWING ON, LOOKED OVER HIS GLASSES AT ME. I JUST BARELY OUT OF SCHOOL.

HE SAYS, SON, SOME OF THE BEST DECISIONS I EVER MADE WERE DEALS I TURNED DOWN.

AND HE. HE TURNED OUR DEAL DOWN.

AND I LEARNED A VERY VALUABLE LESSON.

AND I SURE THANK SOME JIM.

WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT IS IS APPROPRIATE HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOT SURE. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL JOSHUA SHANKLES I LIVE IN THE 2600 BLOCK OF 47TH STREET, AND I AM ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE LUBBOCK COMPACT FOUNDATION.

I WOULD ALSO, LIKE SOME OF MY PEERS, TAKE THE TIME TO WELCOME THE NEW MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND APOLOGIZE FOR MY PERSONAL APPEARANCE. IF THE MAYOR WILL GRANT ME ONE MOMENT OF PERSONAL GRIEVANCE.

HAD I KNOWN YOU WOULD SHIFT THIS AROUND TO THE END, I WOULD HAVE AVAILED MYSELF OF A SHOWER BEFORE HAVING COME HERE FROM A RIDING LAWN MOWER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASSOCIATE OUR ORGANIZATION TO THE REMARKS.

MANY HERE, WE ARE ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CASE.

AND I WILL FORBEAR EVERYBODY GOING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL PRESENTED REALLY CONVINCING ARGUMENTS.

AND WOULD ONLY ADD THAT THE COUNCIL OUGHT TO REJECT THIS ZONING REQUEST IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN HOW DISCOURTEOUS IT IS FOR THESE PROJECTS TO CONTINUE COMING UP WHEN THE RESIDENTS AND ADVOCATES AND MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK IN THIS AREA, LIKE OUR OWN, DOES, HAVE REPEATEDLY COME FORWARD AND SAID THEY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, ONE THAT CAN VERY WELL BE ACHIEVED.

AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ABUNDANTLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT FACT.

AND YET THE ADVOCATES AND RESIDENTS KEEP BEING EXHAUSTED BY THESE ENDLESS PETITIONS TO APPROVE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE IN OLD TO NOW HAVE SAT THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS AND THREE DIFFERENT AREAS, SIX MEETINGS, ALL THE VARIOUS COMMENTARY, YOU KNOW, DEMANDING ALL THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR IT.

IT IT'S TIRESOME WHEN YOU'RE A WORKING CLASS PERSON WHO HAS TO FOLLOW THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES AND YOU OTHERWISE NEED TO BE WORKING.

I WOULD ALSO SAY, AND THE MORE SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL KNOW THIS, THE NEW MEMBERS ARE GOING TO COME TO KNOW THIS.

WE'VE CERTAINLY SEEN THIS.

THIS IS THE ONLY TYPE OF ZONING CASE WHERE THIS EVER COMES UP LIKE THIS, WHERE EVERYBODY'S STUCK IN HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF HAVING TO ARGUE DOWN ALL THE VARIOUS POINTS, AS YOU JUST WITNESSED TONIGHT.

MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE NON-CONTROVERSIAL BECAUSE, AS HAS BEEN SAID REPEATEDLY.

ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WELCOME GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN IT IS BROUGHT INTO REASONABLE COMPROMISE.

AND SO THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS THAT I WOULD HOPE ONE THING THAT GETS TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS IS FOR YOURSELVES OR MEMBERS OF THE CITY STAFF, OR IN FACT, THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES, THAT COULD BE TAKING THIS TIME TO ENGAGE WITH THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND FIRST COME TO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AGREEABLE AND ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO FRUITION.

WITH ALL THOSE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, IF THAT WOULD BE THE APPROACH TO THIS, THEN JUST LIKE REPEATEDLY DROPPING ZONING CASES ON THEIR HEADS, I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE FRUITFUL RESULT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

Y'ALL TAKE CARE. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS LAURA STORY.

I RESIDE AT 2314 17TH STREET IN HISTORIC SOUTH OVERTON, FOUR BLOCKS FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT IT HAS.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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I LIVE IN AND OWN A HOME IN HISTORIC SOUTH OVERTON NEIGHBORHOOD AND AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE ZONE CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW A SEVEN STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX TO BE BUILT ON THE BLOCKS OF 14TH AND 15TH BETWEEN AVENUE X AND UNIVERSITY, THEREBY INCREASING THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S POPULATION EXPONENTIALLY AND PUTTING INTENSE PRESSURE ON ALREADY BUSY LOCAL ROADS AND AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

MY FAMILY ROOTS IN LUBBOCK GO BACK THREE QUARTERS OF A CENTURY, WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS 60TH STREET HOUSE WAS ON THE DISTANT OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN.

GROWTH IS INEVITABLE AND OFTEN DESIRABLE, BUT WE SHOULD BE WARY OF IRREVERSIBLY ENCROACHING ON OUR RICH PAST WHEN EMBRACING THE FUTURE.

JUST AS THE CITY HAS BEGUN TO APPRECIATE AND REVITALIZE ITS FORMERLY NEGLECTED HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, WE MUST ALSO PROTECT THIS HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, ALONG WITH THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF STABILIZING, REHABILITATING, AND RENOVATING PROPERTIES DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC LANDMARKS.

THIS PROPOSED PROJECT, ALONG WITH A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, NOISE AND LITTER IT WOULD BRING, IN NO WAY COMPLEMENTS THE HISTORIC CHARM AND APPEAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT INSTEAD CONSPICUOUSLY JEOPARDIZES IT.

THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR APPROPRIATE CHANGE AND GROWTH, BUT A SEVEN STORY MODERN COMPLEX ON THE BORDER OF A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, IS NOT IT? PLEASE CONSIDER THE ADVERSE IMPACT ON SUCH A VITAL PART OF LUBBOCK'S HISTORY AND FUTURE, AND VOTE TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF LUBBOCK.

I WANTED TO GET UP HERE BEFORE I HAD TO SAY GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DAVID GEORGE AT 3308 59TH STREET.

A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO DISCUSS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT, BUT I WANTED TO.

TWO THINGS HAVEN'T IN IN RESEARCHING THE MEDIUM DENSITY MIXED USE ISSUE, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE UDC.

IT TOOK FOUR YEARS FOR STAFF AND THE COMMITTEE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER INTO WRITING.

AND I JUST URGE YOU NOT TO DRIVE PAST IT AND GO FROM MEDIUM TO HIGH TO MIXED USE FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO THROW IS OUT IS A LITTLE PARKING STORY.

I WAS BUILDING A SIX UNIT APARTMENT APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND AT THE TIME, ZONING REQUIRED ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES PER BED.

SO I HAD 18 BEDS.

I NEEDED 27 SPACES.

I COULDN'T PUT 27 SPACES ON IT AND EVEN BUILD A TOOL SHED.

SO WE REZONED IT.

NO. AND THEN WE.

I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.

I NEEDED 18 SPACES FOR BEDS.

I WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE 27.

I COULDN'T DO THAT.

SO I TRIED TO GET 18.

I ONLY FIT 17.

I TRIED TO GET 18, ONE PER BED.

I FOUGHT THE CITY, FOUGHT THE CITY.

THEY WOULD NOT GIVE ME A VARIANCE FOR ONE PARKING SPACE TO HAVE ONE PER BED.

THEY WANTED ONE AND A HALF PER BED.

CHANGED IT TO CONDOMINIUM.

TOWNHOMES. TOWNHOMES IS A RESIDENTIAL UNIT, ONLY HAVE TO HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT.

NOW I ONLY NEED TEN, SO I BUILT IT, BUT I PUT IN 17 SPACES.

I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM.

IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, TWO SEMESTERS I'VE HAD TO WORK WITH SOMEONE ON THAT 18TH SPACE BECAUSE I HAD 18 CARS THERE.

SO MY REAL CONCERN WITH THIS PROJECT, IF IT GOES MIXED USE AND THEY AREN'T REQUIRED TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, IT WILL DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE STREET PARKING AND EVERYTHING WALKING UP AND DOWN, AND IT WILL CAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME TO TRY AND PUT CONCRETE IN THE FRONT YARD FOR PEOPLE TO PARK, AND YOU'LL DRIVE DOWN AND IT'LL BE CONCRETE ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREETS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK AND BEGIN BACK AT 545 WITH THOSE IN FAVOR OF.

TAKE A BREAK. WE ARE IN RECESS.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET BACK TO OUR SEATS.

IF I COULD GET EVERYONE TO.

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WE HAVE WE HAVE MOVED ON TO THOSE THAT ARE PROPONENTS OF AGENDA ITEM 8.5.

WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THOSE IN FAVOR OF.

HOW DO I GET THIS TO COME UP? CHRISTIAN.

JUST. IT WILL PUT IT UP THERE.

I'LL PUT IT UP THERE. OKAY.

MY NAME IS DAVID PIERCE.

I'M WITH PARALLEL 506 WEST SEVENTH STREET IN AUSTIN.

HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PAYNE, COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR YOUR TIME.

AND WELCOME TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY.

THIS IS QUITE A FIRST DAY FOR SOME OF YOU.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TIME AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

NOT SURE THOUGH. OKAY.

TECHNICAL TIMEOUT.

ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO START WITH YOU KNOW, CHANGE.

CHANGE CAN BE CHALLENGING.

IT CAN BE DIFFICULT.

AND IT'S IT'S IT'S EASY TO FIND REASONS TO NOT WANT TO DO, DO THINGS.

AND MUCH MORE DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO FIND THE REASONS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS WE BROUGHT BACK A SECOND VERSION OF THE OF THE PROPERTY THAN WE PRESENTED LAST YEAR.

WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES.

WE DID NOT MEET WITH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WAS PRETTY IMPOSSIBLE.

BUT WE DID TAKE TAKE A FEW MEETINGS, LISTEN TO THE INPUT.

A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO WAS WE WERE AT 94FT LAST YEAR.

WE CAME BACK AT 75FT.

WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE A FLOOR.

WE DID THAT, AND WE NOT ONLY DID WE MOVE THE FLOOR, WE REMOVED ALMOST 20FT.

LAST TIME IT WAS A BLENDED SEVEN AND EIGHT STORY BUILDING.

NOW IT'S A STRAIGHT SEVEN STORY.

WE HAD A ROOFTOP AMENITY DECK THAT WROTE THAT PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT.

WE'VE MOVED THAT INTO AN INTERIOR COURTYARD.

AND LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR MULTIPLE VARIANCES, FOUR OF WHICH WERE WE ASKED FOR A HEIGHT VARIANCE, A PARKING VARIANCE, SETBACK VARIANCE, AND A LOT COVERAGE VARIANCE.

THIS TIME WE HAVE NO ROOFTOP AMENITIES.

WE ARE DEFINITELY AT SEVEN FLOORS, NOT EIGHT.

WE HAVE EXTERIOR FACADE REFINEMENTS THAT WE ADDED SOME BRICK AND SOME MORE CONTEXTUAL COLORS TO THE BUILDING.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR ZERO VARIANCES TODAY.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IMAGES OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

THIS IS FACING THE CVS.

OUR SITE PLAN AS WE SAID, WE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SETBACK VARIANCES.

WE ARE LINING THE STREETS WITH TREES, REBUILDING THE SIDEWALKS AND PROVIDING SOME AREAS FOR PETS ALONG THE PERIMETER OF OUR BUILDING.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE MOVING THE POOL INTERNALLY.

WE HAVE AN INTERNAL PARKING GARAGE THAT'S SCREENED.

THE CARS PARK INSIDE THAT GARAGE.

SOME OF OUR PROJECT FEATURES.

WE DO A ENHANCED LOBBY AND RECEPTION AREA.

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WE HAVE STAFF ON PROPERTY 24 SEVEN.

WE ALSO PROVIDE OTHER AMENITIES WITHIN THE WITHIN THE BUILDING.

IN THIS CASE, WE'VE SHOWN A PICTURE OF THE GENIUS LOUNGE.

WE ALSO DO A COMMUNITY ROOM THAT WE HAVE OFFERED TO BE AVAILABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS ON A SCHEDULING BASIS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO IS WE DO A SMART MARKET.

THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

THESE ARE MARKETS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

WE WILL DO THIS ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

WE HAVEN'T LOCATED IT EXACTLY IN THE BUILDING YET, BUT IT WILL BE ALONG 14TH STREET.

WE ALSO DO A BIKE STORAGE AND REPAIR ROOM.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUALITY OF THAT PHOTOGRAPH, BUT WE WE DOUBLED OUR OUR INITIAL BIKE CAPACITY IN TEXAS A&M THIS YEAR BECAUSE SO MANY KIDS SHOWED UP WITH BIKES AND WE DIDN'T SELL OUT OUR PARKING.

24 SEVEN PACKAGE LOCKERS ALSO HELPS CUT DOWN ON VEHICLE TRIPS.

COMMUNITY LOUNGE I'VE TALKED ABOUT.

FITNESS CENTER. THAT'S OBVIOUS.

WE DO CURATE REGIONAL ARTWORK, SO WE WILL BE BRINGING IN WEST TEXAS ARTISTS TO BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

OUR APARTMENTS ARE FULLY FURNISHED.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE COUCHES AND DUMPSTERS ALONG THE STREET.

AS KIDS MOVE OUT AND WE HAVE A WHITE GLOVE MOVE IN PROCESS TO HELP THEM MOVE INTO THE BUILDING WHERE THEY MOVE IN THEIR BOXES AND THEIR CLOTHES INTO A FULLY FURNISHED WORKING APARTMENT.

I MENTIONED THE COURTYARD POOL.

ANOTHER INTERESTING AMENITY THAT WE DO IS WE DO A CONTENT RECORDING STUDIO FOR ALL THE BLOGGERS OUT THERE.

IT'S BECOME A VERY POPULAR ITEM IN OUR PROPERTIES.

WE INTEND TO DO ONE HERE.

WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE PET FRIENDLY.

WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN OUR PORTFOLIO NOW OF BETWEEN 2 AND 3000 BEDS WE HAVE LESS THAN 3% PETS PER RESIDENT.

WE DO HELP CONTROL THAT BY CHARGING A PET DEPOSIT AND A PET RENT.

AND WE HAVE STRICT POLICIES THAT IF YOU DON'T ABIDE BY THOSE, THEN YOUR PET IS EVICTED AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT YOU WILL BE IF YOUR PET SHOWS BACK UP.

SECURITY, I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

WE DO DO SOME ADDITIONAL SECURITY AROUND GAME DAYS.

WE'VE LEARNED THAT COOPERATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IMPORTANT ON THOSE DAYS.

WE DO INTERNAL TRASH MANAGEMENT.

I THINK IT, AS I SAID, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

WE'VE TALKED WITH THE TRASH DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO BE USING A THIRD PARTY PRIVATE SERVICE THAT WE CAN SCHEDULE.

THERE'S NO DUMPSTERS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE AN INTERNAL TRASH CHUTE.

RECYCLING ROOM AND THE RECEIVER BINS.

TRASH GOES DOWN THE CHUTES.

THOSE ARE PUSHED OUT JUST IN TIME FOR THE TRUCKS TO COME BY AND PICK THEM UP.

THEY GO BACK IN. SO UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES YOU SEE AROUND TOWN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TRASH ALL OVER THE PLACE OUTSIDE OF OUR BUILDING.

PARKING PARKING RATIO.

THIS IS A NATIONAL STANDARD.

I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS, BUT BASICALLY IT SHOWS THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE OUR HIGHEST PARKING RATIO OF ANYONE THAT WE'VE DONE IN RECENT YEARS.

AT 85%.

THESE ARE OUR OTHERS IN OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO.

YOU CAN SEE THEIR PARKING RATIOS.

AND THEN BELOW THAT IS A NATIONAL STANDARD FROM NATIONAL OPERATORS.

THE POINT BEING THAT EVEN IN LUBBOCK, KIDS ARE BRINGING FEWER AND FEWER CARS EVERY YEAR.

IT'S STILL A HIGHER RATIO THAN OTHERS, BUT SO I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD TO THAT AND THEN GO BACK.

THIS IS A SURVEY WE DID OF OF A COMP SET OF COMPARABLE PROPERTIES AND HOW THEY'RE PARKED.

AND THAT AVERAGE IS LESS THAN 85%.

THAT'S ACTUALLY COUNTING CARS RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR RENT ROLL.

OUR PARKING EXCEEDS THE UDC REQUIREMENT BY OVER 400 SPACES.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT REQUIREMENT IS PRETTY LIGHT.

WE AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S TOO LIGHT.

WE'RE PROPOSING AN 85% RATIO TO OUR TO OUR BED COUNT AS AN APPROPRIATE AS AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

AND WE'RE PREPARED TO COMMIT TO THAT IN WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN HOLD US TO THAT.

WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC, AS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES, IS IN A HISTORICAL DECLINE.

IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A MASSIVE DECLINE, BUT THERE ARE FEWER CARS YEAR OVER YEAR IN THE AREA AROUND THIS.

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I KNOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SPEEDING CARS.

WE AGREE THAT AVENUE X HAS A POTENTIAL SPEEDING PROBLEM.

THERE'S NO STOPLIGHT STOP SIGNS OR SPEED BUMPS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO GET THOSE INSTALLED AT 14TH AND OR 15TH STREET, AND WE WILL BE A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN AVENUE X ANY MORE THAN ANY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

THE PRESENCE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE PEOPLE WILL ALSO HELP SLOW DOWN THE CARS THAT ARE SPEEDING THROUGH.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS WITH US.

HE BRAVED THE STORMS AND SOMEHOW MADE IT HERE ON A FLIGHT WHEN OUR ARCHITECT COULDN'T.

SO. WE'RE DOING A SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADE.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE.

THIS WILL MEAN THAT WE DON'T IMPACT THE CITY'S.

I MEAN, THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEWERS.

WE'RE ALSO UPGRADING THE ELECTRICAL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO THE EAST OF US OR WEST OF US WILL ALSO BE ON THAT SYSTEM.

SO WE'LL BE LIGHTING THE LOAD ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR HEIGHT IN THIS AREA.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE LOFTS.

IF YOU GUYS CAN TALK THE ASSESSOR INTO GIVING US THEIR TAX RATE, WE'LL TAKE IT.

THAT BUILDING IS 96FT TALL.

WE'RE 75FT TALL.

OVERTON'S 200 UNIVERSITY PLAZA THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IS 98FT.

LIKE I SAID, WE KNOCKED 20FT OFF THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING FROM OUR LAST PROPOSAL.

OUR INTENTION IS TO FOSTER A MIXED USE, WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

NOTHING WE'RE DOING HERE IS GOING TO STOP THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM HAVING A WALKABLE, WALKABLE STREETS.

NOTHING WE'RE DOING HERE IS GOING TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM BEING ABLE TO RENOVATE THEIR HOMES OR CONTINUE ADHERING TO THE HISTORICAL REGULATIONS THAT DICTATE WHAT IS BUILT THERE. AS YOU'LL SEE FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES COMING UP, THIS THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOT IN THAT OVERLAY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AND THAT SERVES TO PROTECT THEM.

AND WE LIKE BEING A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AND THE HIGHER INTENSITY UNIVERSITY ZONE.

WE BELIEVE IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE.

IN THE IN THE SUPERMAJORITY COUNT.

THAT WAS DONE.

WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS ONE OWNER OCCUPIED HOME IN THAT THAT CAME OUT AGAINST US.

THE REST WERE ABSENTEE.

MOST OF THEM OUT OF OUT OF OUT OF LUBBOCK.

AND YOU KNOW THAT.

AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT IS THE SAINT JOHN'S CHURCH.

SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S 22% OPPONENTS I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AT AT HOW THAT'S COMPOSED.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.

THIS IS A VERY COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN YELLOW IS COMMERCE.

IT'S BEING RENTED TO SOMEONE EITHER SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS GOING ON WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE NOT OWNER OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE ONES IN YELLOW. THE OTHERS ARE.

I'M GOING TO BRING MY PARTNER, CHRISTIAN PENROD UP TO.

FINISH THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I'M KRISTEN PENROD, 506 WEST SEVENTH STREET, AUSTIN, TEXAS.

THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.

I WANT TO SPEND JUST A FEW MINUTES ON THE URBAN DESIGN.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT TODAY ABOUT URBAN DESIGN.

THE BIGGEST THING I WANT TO FOCUS ON HERE IS THE WALKABILITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR STREETS ARE GOING TO DO IS PROVIDE STREETLIGHTS.

AND TO ME THAT'S A REALLY GREAT THING FOR THIS AREA.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SECURITY THAT DAVID MENTIONED EARLIER.

THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOSTER THE WALKABILITY BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE RETAIL AND SPUR REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT RETAIL, AND CONTINUE TO CREATE THAT WALKABILITY THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I THINK WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TAXES.

I'M NOT GOING TO BRING UP TAXES ANYMORE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER BENEFITS.

LIKE I SAID, ENCOURAGING REVITALIZATION OF THE AREA.

THAT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP INCREASE HOME VALUES AND THE RENTAL INCOME FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF JOB CREATION.

JUST NOT ONLY DURING CONSTRUCTION BUT ALSO DURING OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE A LOCAL GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

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WE HAVE OUR DESIGN CONSULTANTS.

AND THEN AFTER WE FINISH, WE HAVE A LOCAL LEASING STAFF AND SERVICE PROVIDERS, TRASH RECYCLING PROVIDERS, CLEANERS.

SECURITY. THERE'S A THOSE ARE JUST A FEW TO NAME.

AGAIN. SAFETY. MORE EYES ON THE STREET.

PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, LESS POLLUTION FROM THE CARS.

STUDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO WALK TO CAMPUS VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M I'M GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT THE TEXAS TECH STUDENTS AND CONTINUE TO GROW THAT TIER ONE UNIVERSITY.

THAT'LL JUST CONTINUE TO SPUR THE GROWTH IN THE AREA.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE WE'VE ALSO DONE IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

THESE ARE A FEW ON THE LIST WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO CHIMNEYS, SEVEN BREW, THE WESLEY FOUNDATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO A LOT IS WE HAVE COMMUNITY SPACE, NOT ONLY ON OUR GROUND FLOOR, BUT ON THE TOP FLOOR.

WE HAVE SKY LOUNGE.

AND WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT HOSTING THEIR EVENTS AND PROVIDING THAT MIX OF USES AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE HAVE BROUGHT OUR ZONING ATTORNEY, AND I'LL INTRODUCE HER IN A SECOND.

SO I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS.

BUT IN HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WE ARE WE DO HAVE ADJACENT DISTRICT, THE SUGGESTED ADJACENT DISTRICTS.

MDR IS ONE OF THEM, WHICH IS WHERE THE SINGLE FAMILY IS.

AND WE INTENTIONALLY FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES.

IN THE SUGGESTED ADJACENT DISTRICT, BUT THIS ALSO ALLOWS FOR YOU NOT TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT HOWEVER WE ARE.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING AGAIN THAT WE ARE NOT IN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

WHERE THE RED. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE MIXED USE DEFINITION TALKS ABOUT THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE UTILIZED IN SMALL POCKETS.

AND THAT'S A DESIGNATION THAT NEEDS TO BE USED IN THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO JUST SHOW THAT WE ARE ADHERING TO THAT MIXED USE DEFINITION.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO BRING OVER SUZANNE KIDRON AT JACKSON WALKER FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS ON THE LEGALITIES THAT EVERYONE'S BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.

SO THANK. I'LL JUST BE THE FIRST TO SAY IT.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE LUBBOCK CITY COUNCIL.

SUZANNE KEDRON, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.

I'D CHAIR OUR LAND USE ZONING AND MUNICIPAL LAW SECTION AT JACKSON WALKER, ONE OF THE OLDEST LAW FIRMS IN TEXAS.

WE ARE TEXAS BASED AND THE LARGEST TEXAS BASED LAW FIRM.

I'VE DEDICATED MY CAREER TO OVER 25 YEARS PRACTICING MUNICIPAL LAW.

PRIOR TO THAT, I PRACTICED A LITTLE BIT OF CRIMINAL DEFENSE WORK AND ALSO HAD A CAREER IN ARCHITECTURE.

I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY INTRODUCING A STATEMENT BY PAUL WHITFIELD HORN, THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

HE SAID THAT THESE WEST TEXAS PLAINS ARE A COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT HARMONIZE WITH THINGS LITTLE OR NARROW OR MEAN.

LET US MAKE THE WORK OF OUR COLLEGE FIT WITH THE SCOPE OF OUR COUNTRY.

LET OUR THOUGHTS BE BIG THOUGHTS AND BROAD THOUGHTS.

LET OUR THINKING BE IN WORLD WIDE TERMS. HORN DELIVERED THOSE WORDS TO THE FIRST CLASS OF TEXAS TECH STUDENTS IN 1925, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW PROUD HE IS TO SEE OF WHAT THE CITY AND WHAT THE CITY HAS BECOME AND WHAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS BECOME 100 YEARS LATER.

THE CASE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY AND BRING A CLASS A STUDENT HOUSING TO THE UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS AN OPPORTUNITY, A VERY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO REINVEST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE SOUTH END OF UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

I'M GOING TO BREAK MY COMMENTS INTO TWO PARTS.

FIRST, THE LEGAL PART AND SECOND, THE BENEFITS THAT THIS PROJECT BRINGS.

FIRST, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT THIS CASE MIGHT BE PREMATURE.

YOU'VE HEARD ARGUMENTS THAT THE ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION IS PREMATURE.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

CRITERIA ONE A OF SECTION 39.07 STATES AS A DISQUALIFYING CHARACTER CRITERIA OF A SUCCESSIVE ZONING APPLICATION THAT WITHIN 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION, A ZONING CHANGE OR SIMILAR APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED BY DENIAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF YOU RECALL, THE INITIAL CASE WAS NOT DENIED BY BOTH.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND IT WAS ONLY DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL.

AND SINCE THEN, THE CASE, AS YOU HEARD BY DAVID, WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, HAS HAD SEVERAL CHANGES.

IT'S BEEN REFINED AND SCALED DOWN AND REDESIGNED SUCH THAT IT WILL INTEGRATE INTO THE ARCHITECTURE OF WEST TEXAS AND THE SOUTH OVERTON COMMUNITY.

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YOU ALSO HEARD ARGUMENTS THAT THE PROJECT RUNS CONTRARY TO THE LUBBOCK 2040, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT DOES NOT.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A GUIDANCE DOCUMENT THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE FLEXIBLE.

INDEED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANTICIPATES THE CITY MAY NOT DEVELOP EXACTLY AS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP, PREDICTS PAGE 62 OF THAT EXACT PLAN STATES. AND I'D LIKE TO READ IT FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S A QUOTATION.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPOSALS CONTRARY TO THE PLAN COULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE USES SHOWN ON THE PLAN FOR A PARTICULAR AREA.

THIS MAY BE DUE TO CHANGING MARKETS, THE QUALITY OF PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS, AND OR ECONOMIC TRENDS THAT OCCUR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AFTER THE STRATEGY IS ADOPTED. IF SUCH CHANGES OCCUR, AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO THE CITY, THEN THESE PROPOSALS SHOULD BE APPROVED AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOULD BE AMENDED ACCORDINGLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET, IT STATES THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE A MINOR DEVIATION, AND IT GOES ON TO STATE THAT PLANNING IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS AND CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.

NOW FOR THE THIRD POINT SPOT ZONING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES BY THE OPPONENTS.

YOU HEARD ARGUMENTS THAT IT'S SPOT ZONING.

IT IS EMPIRICALLY NOT.

THIS IS NOT AN ISLAND OF HIGH DENSITY IN A SEA OF SINGLE FAMILY.

IT IS A PROJECT THAT AN INSTANCE OF HIGH DENSITY BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, AND THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE EAST. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THE FA VERSUS TIPPETT CASE.

THE ONE THING THE OPPONENTS FAIL TO ADDRESS IS THAT THAT CASE WAS ACTUALLY UPHELD BY THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT.

AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THEY WENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTI-FAMILY ZONING.

IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE GOING FROM MEDIUM DENSITY TO HIGH DENSITY.

SO WE'RE ALREADY ALLOWED MULTIPLE UNITS.

WE'RE JUST GOING SLIGHTLY HIGHER.

SO OUR AGREED OUR DEGREE OF INTENSITY IS EVEN LESS THAN WHAT WAS IN THE TIPPETT CASE.

SO IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT SPOT ZONING.

INSTEAD, THIS IS A CAREFULLY THOUGHT OUT TRANSITION BETWEEN TEXAS TECH AND THE UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND THE SOUTH OVERTON NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THREE CRITERIA THAT ARE FAVORABLE TO THIS CASE.

I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THREE THINGS.

FIRST, THE CITY'S NEED FOR HOUSING.

PRESIDENT HORNE HAD BIG DREAMS FOR TEXAS TECH DREAMS, WHICH HAVE MATERIALIZED.

CURRENT ENROLLMENT OF TEXAS TECH IS ALMOST 41,000 STUDENTS.

TEXAS TECH'S CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN HAS A GOAL FOR INCREASING ENROLLMENT TO 44,500 STUDENTS.

THAT'S AN INCREASE OF OVER 3500 ADDITIONAL RED RAIDERS.

THIS PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY WILL ASSIST THE CITY OF LUBBOCK AND TEXAS TECH IN REALIZING ITS GOAL BY PROVIDING HOUSING QUALITY, A HOUSING FOR THOSE IN THIS GROWING UNIVERSITY.

THE NEED FOR WALKABILITY.

THIS LEADS THIS PROJECT LENDS ITSELF TO REDUCE TRAFFIC AND REDUCE PARKING, BECAUSE MANY OF THE STUDENTS WILL LIVE ON SITE AND THEN WALK TO SCHOOL.

IT'S A SEVEN MINUTE WALK TO THE COLLEGE OF HUMAN SCIENCES, FOR EXAMPLE.

THE OPPOSITION DOES NOT WANT DENSITY.

THEY DON'T WANT WALKABILITY.

THEY DON'T WANT CHANGE.

THEY WANT TEXAS TECH STUDENTS TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COMMUTE INTO SCHOOL.

THIS PROJECT, DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY, WILL ALLOW STUDENTS TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

AND THIRD, AND FINALLY, THE NEED FOR REINVESTMENT.

YOU HEARD THAT THE STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA, AND BECAUSE OF THAT FEATURE, IT WILL SPUR FURTHER INVESTMENT INTO THE AREA, PARTICULARLY INTO THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT NEXT TO THE PROJECT ALONG UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

THE PROJECT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACTIVATE UNIVERSITY AVENUE SOUTH OF BROADWAY, THE MUCH NEEDED STIMULUS THAT WILL FURTHER PROPEL INVESTMENT INTO THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT AND TO THE EAST OF THIS PROJECT.

YOU ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BRING, AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT TO THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT WILL HELP THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS BOTH SEWER AND ELECTRICITY.

IN CONCLUSION, THIS PROJECT IS A SEVEN STORY MID-RISE APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WILL PROVIDE VERTICAL MIXED USE TO THE BUILDING, AND IT WILL PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN TEXAS TECH AND THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT THE OPPOSITION NOTED.

THEY POINTED OUT THE PROJECT THE VILLAGE AT OVERTON.

THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY IN AN HDR, THE EXACT SAME ZONING THAT WE'RE SEEKING HERE TODAY.

AND THIS PROJECT IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REINVIGORATE THIS STRETCH OF UNIVERSITY SOUTH OF BROADWAY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE LUBBOCK WITH WALKABLE STUDENT HOUSING TO TEXAS TECH THAT WILL SPUR INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA AND SERVE THE GOAL OF CREATING A VIBRANT, WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

IT WHOLLY MEETS THE WELL-SETTLED STANDARDS OF LAND USE LAW, AND IT CONFORMS TO THE PRINCIPLES OF THE UDC.

LET'S NOT LET THIS OPPORTUNITY GO TO WASTE.

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THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN? THERE WE GO. MAYOR COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHAD HENTHORN.

I'M THE CEO OF TYNER CONSTRUCTION HERE IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS, 1402 CRICKETS AVENUE.

WE'RE THE CONTRACTOR PARTNER FOR PARALLEL ON THIS PROJECT.

AND WHILE I DON'T LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I'D LIKE TO JUST BRING UP A COUPLE OTHER POINTS FOR CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

WHEN WHEN WE DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, TYPICALLY A STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT THIS SIDE IS GOING TO OF THIS SIZE IS GOING TO HAVE 65 TO 80% LOCAL SUBCONTRACTOR PARTICIPATION.

NOW, FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS ON A JOB LIKE THIS, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE 35 TO 40 SUBCONTRACTORS.

EVERY ONE OF THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS IS GOING TO HAVE SUPPLIERS, VENDORS, SECOND TIER AND EVEN THIRD TIER SUBCONTRACTORS.

THAT'LL NUMBER ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO AS MANY AS TEN.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS.

OKAY. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

YOU LOOK AT WHAT GAME DAY AT TEXAS TECH DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY ALONE.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 24 TO 30 MONTHS OF JOBS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS LOCAL TAX REVENUE WELL BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE HERE WITH THIS, WITH THIS BUILDING, IT MEANS JOBS FOR OUR STUDENTS IN THE CTE PROGRAMS JOBS.

JOBS FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THE EAST LUBBOCK RESIDENT OWNED BUSINESS INITIATIVE THAT MY FRIEND REGGIE DALLAS RUNS.

SO THE IMPACT GOES BEYOND JUST THAT.

NOW, I KNOW THAT'S ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS, RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

BUT I WANT TO BRING UP SOMETHING ELSE THAT THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT BY THE OPPOSITION.

COST OF LIVING.

YEAH, THE COST OF LIVING IS LOWER HERE AND THE RENTAL RATES ARE LOWER.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE NOT.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT MY COMPANY, WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN FORT WORTH.

IF WE WERE TO BID THIS PROJECT IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 15% CHEAPER THAN IT IS IN LUBBOCK.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT.

MY FIRM'S BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT FOUR PROJECTS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.

TWO ACROSS FROM 19TH AND TWO ACROSS FROM UNIVERSITY.

AND WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED TO RUN OPINIONS OF COST AND EXAMINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE.

ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WERE SEVEN STORIES, EXCEPT ONE WHERE THEY COULDN'T DO IT UNLESS IT WAS A MINIMUM OF NINE.

SO THE ARGUMENT THAT A FOUR STORY, A LOWER DENSITY PROJECT THERE IS GOING TO WORK, I DON'T THINK IS I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN MY BUSINESS JUST BECAUSE WHAT I SAID, THE COST TO BUILD HERE IS MORE EXPENSIVE.

IT IS. AND COVID HAD A GREAT EFFECT ON THAT.

THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.

BUT IN MY INDUSTRY WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THAT.

I'LL JUST END WITH A FEW PERSONAL NOTES.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, THE STUDENT POPULATION WAS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT IT IS NOW.

I LIVED AT 29TH AND KNOXVILLE, AND I RODE MY BIKE TO CAMPUS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT UNLESS THE WEATHER DIDN'T ALLOW.

AND THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS, IS THAT'S JUST A LOT EASIER.

WE'VE GOT TWICE AS MANY STUDENTS, HARDLY ANY MORE PARKING.

I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO RIDE THEIR BIKES.

THEY'RE GOING TO WALK. THAT'S THAT DENSITY IS WHAT'S GOING TO BRING THE DEVELOPMENT THERE.

I SAW THIS MY DAUGHTER ATTENDS A UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS VERY UNFORTUNATELY.

AND I'VE SPENT A COUPLE OF WEEKENDS THERE.

LAST TIME IT WAS MOTHER'S WEEKEND, WHERE I GOT TO BE AN UBER FOR MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER THE ENTIRE WEEKEND.

BUT SAW SOMETHING THERE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YOU SEE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

AND YOU, THE ENTIRE FRAMEWORK OF THAT CAMPUS.

AND THE ENTIRE WAY THAT PEOPLE COMMUTE AROUND THERE IS DIFFERENT.

THERE'S A LOT MORE WALKING.

THERE'S A LOT MORE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THE OPPOSITION TALK ABOUT WANTING TO SEE COFFEE SHOPS, BETTER RESTAURANTS RIGHT THERE THAT BUFFER THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE UNIVERSITY.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, IN MY EXPERIENCE.

IT'S GOING TO BRING IT IN. SO ANYWAYS, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN SEE BETTER FROM UP HERE THAN FROM BACK THERE.

THE FOREHEAD COMMENT WAS SPOT ON.

MY NAME IS LENORE ASK.

I AM A BUSINESS OWNER IN DISTRICT ONE WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.

612 BROADWAY.

I WROTE A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

I WAS IN SUPPORT OF IT BEFORE.

I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF IT NOW.

IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE THE PROCESS.

I DON'T USUALLY GET INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE OF WELL, I MEAN, THE UP UNTIL THIS PROJECT, THE PREVIOUS ONE, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A CITY COUNCIL UNLESS I HAD SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO ME.

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I'M NOT GOING TO POINT IT OUT AGAIN, BUT THE PROJECT HAS CHANGED AND HAS CHANGED FOR THE BETTER, AND IT'S CHANGED IN RESPONSE TO THE THE FEARS THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE HAS PUT TOGETHER.

SO I THINK THE THE PROCESS HAS WORKED.

I THINK NOW IT'S TIME TO ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO HAPPEN.

IT DOES BENEFIT.

IT BENEFITS MY BUSINESS DOWN THE STREET.

THIS DENSITY WILL ASSIST DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE LOTS OF PEOPLE TO COME AND AND TAKE PART IN WHATEVER THE PROJECT MIGHT BE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DENSITY REQUIRED TO MAKE THOSE VIABLE PROJECTS.

I'VE DONE A STUDY ON ALMOST EVERY BUILDING ON BROADWAY.

AND THEY JUST DON'T PENCIL OUT WITHOUT THE DENSITY.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT IS A STARTING POINT TO DEVELOP THAT DOWNTOWN.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT IN LUBBOCK, BUT NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND AROUND TEXAS TECH.

I WOULD READ OFF THIS.

LET'S SEE, MAYBE I CAN.

I'LL JUST CLOSE AND SAY IT'S CLEAR THAT THE CITY OF LUBBOCK HAS A GROUP OF WARRIORS FIGHTING TO PRESERVE THE RICH HISTORY OF LUBBOCK, AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT TONIGHT, AND YOU SEE IT A LOT.

AND THEIR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN HEARD AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

I BELIEVE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE TO CHERISH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS MUCH AS THEY DO AND STILL ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO PROCEED FORWARD.

THIS PROJECT WILL DO NOTHING BUT BENEFIT THOSE THAT COMMUNITY, THE BROADER DISTRICT, AND THE BROADER LUBBOCK.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WEIGH THE CONCERNS, BUT RECOGNIZE THAT THAT ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.

AND THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR FOR THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME TO MY INTERNS.

THEY LEFT FOR WALKABLE CITY.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? OF 8.5. OUR COUNCIL BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I THINK LAST TIME I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE PROPONENTS OR THE OPPONENTS, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY CONFUSION AS TO WHO GOES FIRST OR LAST OR ANY OF THOSE ISSUES I THINK WE HAD LAST TIME.

SO WHAT I THINK, WITH PERMISSION OF COUNCIL IS I WOULD PROPOSE TO SLEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF THE.

I THINK I ENDED UP WITH 19 OPPONENTS.

WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO. QUESTIONS MIGHT BE 19 OR 20 QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THOSE OPPONENTS IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THOSE, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE OPPONENTS IN HALF IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENTS.

AND THEN ONCE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE CAN TAKE OUR MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE CAN OBVIOUSLY HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? MAYOR PRO TEM YOU GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY. I GOT A DEUCE.

HIS SON. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

SO. SO WE'LL LEAVE THE PUBLIC OPEN HEARING OPEN FOR A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME.

SO, COUNSEL, IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK.

ALL RIGHT. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS OF ANYONE THAT WAS IN MISS MARTINEZ GARCIA, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SORRY. AND I GOT MOST OF THE NAMES, BUT SOMETIMES I DIDN'T.

KRISTEN MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS FOR ME, PLEASE.

OKAY. WE'LL LEAVE KRISTEN TO KRISTEN TO LATER, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THERE WAS A QUESTION, I THINK IT CAME FROM KELLY MR. MR. HAND ABOUT RENOVATION.

HE CAN'T HEAR.

I'M SORRY MY HEARING IS SO POOR.

YES, MA'AM. MR. HAN. YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW.

HOW TRYING IT IS TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THE ADDITIONS, YOUR CONCRETE WORK, YOUR UPDATING.

BUT THIS IS A HISTORICAL DISTRICT, AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT SAID THAT THE

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AS FAR AS WATCHING THAT.

AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CALL BECAUSE THEIR PROJECTS WERE PUT ON HOLD.

AND SO I'M JUST CONFUSED.

DO YOU WANT TO SUSTAIN THAT HISTORICAL ASPECT, OR DO YOU WANT IT TO BE A FREE FOR ALL? MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST WAY OF PUTTING IT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRYING FOR ME WITH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION FOR THOSE TWO PARTICULAR RENOVATIONS.

I'VE HAD SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT'S RUNNING THE PROJECT.

FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, FOR THE DAUGHTER.

AND THEY'RE BEYOND THAT.

THEY THEY WANTED TO DO THE ARTIFICIAL TURF.

YOU KNOW, THEY THEY MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION OR WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE NAME IS.

I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.

AND BASICALLY, THEY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WANTED TO REALLY DRESS THE PLACE UP, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND TOWN THAT HAVE THAT ARTIFICIAL SURFACE SO THAT MAINTENANCE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER AND HER ROOMMATE WOULD NOT BE AN ONGOING ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALSO DONE SOME THINGS IN THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY THAT THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR, FROM HIGH FENCING AND A SECURITY ENCLOSURE AND AUTOMATIC GATING.

AND AND IT'S REMARKABLE, HONESTLY, WHAT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

THE OTHER ONE, SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO THE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BUILDER WHO WHO BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY OUT OF FORECLOSURE. THEN HE HAD HEALTH ISSUES AND AND IT SIT THERE FOR A VERY EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

AND NOW THEY'VE COME IN AND COMPLETELY GUTTED THE INSIDE.

IT'S REMARKABLE INSIDE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY KIND OF HAVE SOME ARCHITECTURAL PREFERENCES THAT ARE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.

AND OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT THINK SO.

AND, YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY WAS WAS NOT AWARE OF THESE, WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, I'M NOT EITHER, HONESTLY.

AND HE DID SOME THINGS THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE.

YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY RAN INTO HIM AT A TEXAS TECH BASEBALL GAME AND KIND OF LED TO A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION. AND IN MY POINT, I GUESS, IS THAT IT SOME OF THESE THINGS.

YOU JUST NEED TO BE PRACTICAL.

WITH REGARD TO THE CONCRETE OR NOT, I THINK, DOESN'T THAT GO AGAINST THE HISTORICAL VALUE? I MEAN, THIS IS THE MESSAGE, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IS THE HISTORICAL.

YES, MA'AM. WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN THE HISTORICAL, BUT THERE'S TREMENDOUS COST IN THE HISTORICAL.

AND THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS, YOU KNOW, THESE THESE THINGS ARE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PUT A PHENOMENAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO MAKE SOMETHING HISTORICAL RIGHT NEXT TO A 75 FOOT WALL AND NEVER EXPECT THAT TO BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

IT'S JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, AND WITH WITH 50 FOOT LOTS AND WITH PARKING ALREADY AN ISSUE, YOU CANNOT ACCOMMODATE ALL THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING, YOU KNOW, SEVEN RESIDENTIAL TYPE BLOCKS INTO THOSE 15 LOTS.

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I'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

I EXPECT THAT TO WORK.

I'M SORRY, SIR. PARDON ME.

I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS OF MR. HERSCHEL. IS HERSCHEL STILL HERE? YES. MR. HAN, YOU'RE FINISHED.

I THINK SO, NO.

TANYA, DO YOU MIND COMING? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING SITUATION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND THAT IS THAT TRAFFIC SITUATION.

YES, MA'AM. I OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND FOLLOW THE RULE WHEN TRYING TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN ISSUE, I GET IT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN THREE MAJOR ISSUES AND I PURPOSELY WENT, I'VE GONE DURING DIFFERENT HOURS, DIFFERENT TIMES.

OBVIOUSLY NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.

I'M NOT SAYING, HOW CAN WE FIX THIS? HOW CAN WE FIX THIS PROBLEM? AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS IT ALL TOGETHER, TO ADDRESS IT FOR FUTURE GROWTH? JUST TO ADDRESS THIS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? SO I THINK THE FIRST THING TO FIX THE ISSUE IS NOT TO OVERBUILD DON'T PACK IN MORE CARS THAN WE NECESSARILY HAVE.

WE NEED RUMBLE STRIPS.

WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS WHO PATROL IT REGULARLY.

MOST OF THE TRAFFIC HAPPENS LATE AT NIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LEAVING THE BARS ON ON BROADWAY, HEADING TOWARDS THE 24 HOUR MCDONALD'S ON 19TH.

ALL THE CAR WRECKS THAT WE'VE HAD HAVE HAPPENED AFTER A FOOTBALL GAME, A GRADUATION.

THE LAST PERSON WAS A LAW STUDENT, SO.

THEY'RE ALL ILL BEHAVED AT SOME POINT IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH ALCOHOL.

I THINK RUMBLE STRIPS WOULD BE A GREAT.

YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, AND WHEN I TALKED TO THE FOLKS AT STREETS WHO TALKED ABOUT RUMBLE STRIPS, THE FIRST THING THEY SAID TO ME WAS, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE LOUDER. ARE YOU SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT? SO I VERY MUCH GOT THE OPINION THAT STREETS WASN'T CONCERNED, AND THE RUMBLE STRIPS THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT BETWEEN 14 AND 15, THAT'S GREAT. IT'S GOING TO SLOW IT DOWN RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE STOPLIGHT AT 60 OR THE STOP SIGN AT 16TH AND ARE PRACTICALLY GOING 60 MILES AN HOUR BY THE TIME THEY GET TO 19TH.

WHAT ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT IN A LARGE ENOUGH ROUNDABOUT.

THERE'S ONE AT 15TH AND W, THERE'S ONE AT 15TH AND W.

IT'S SO SMALL THAT PEOPLE JUST CIRCUMVENT IT AND TURN THE WRONG WAY.

THEY DON'T DO THE ROUNDABOUT TO TURN NORTH, THEY JUST GO AGAINST THE ROUNDABOUT AND CIRCUMVENT IT ALL TOGETHER.

I THINK THE ROUNDABOUT IN FRONT OF OVERTON HOTEL WORKS BEAUTIFULLY, BECAUSE IT'S LARGE ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN'T CIRCUMVENT THE ROUNDABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE REAL ESTATE TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS THAT EFFECTIVE RIGHT THERE AT 15TH AND X OR 14TH AND X.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MARY CRITES.

THAT WAS A SURPRISE. SORRY, MARY, I WE'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN SURPRISED BY A LOT OF THINGS.

YES, MA'AM. ESPECIALLY THE PEEING TOPIC.

YOUR DOG PEEING.

WELL, SO WHEN I WAS GOING TO ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I EVER THOUGHT.

GO AHEAD. AND JUST SO WE CAN KEEP ON TRACK, LET'S JUST FOCUS ON THE QUESTION, AND THEN WE CAN FOCUS ON THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE THE DOGS WE HEARD JUST NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LIMIT.

HOW MANY DOGS CAN STAY AT THE COMPLEX? THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE EXTRA.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PET.

PET. WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM? WHAT PET STATIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DID DRIVE BY THE CHURCH TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS IS THEY DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY BRINGING THEIR PETS OVER, BUT IT'S FENCED IN.

THE BACK IS COMPLETELY FENCED IN, SO I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT PORTION.

WHERE ELSE WOULD THEY GO AT THE CHURCH? SO LET ME RESPOND TO SEVERAL OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I'M NOT HERE REPRESENTING THE CHURCH, IF YOU WILL.

BUT ANSWERING THAT PART FIRST.

THE CHURCH HAS A NICE LITTLE LANDSCAPED AREA JUST ESSENTIALLY AT OUR FRONT YARD WHICH WOULD BE JUST TO THE EAST OF, I MEAN, JUST TO THE WEST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY'RE IT'S A VERY NICE, LARGE, WONDERFUL LITTLE COURTYARD.

THE ISSUE WITH THE ZONING CODE IS THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ZONING CODE THAT SAYS THAT FORCES THE OWNER OR DEVELOPER OR

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AND EVEN IF PARALLEL MAINTAINS THE 3%, THEY, YOU KNOW, ALMOST ALL OF THESE APARTMENT OPERATORS FLIP THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THAT'S HAPPENED IN OVERTON NORTH.

THE NEXT ONES, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT BE NEAR AS DILIGENT.

LIKELY NOT. AND CERTAINLY AS THE PROPERTY GETS OLDER, WILL BE LESS AND LESS.

THE JACK THOMPSON WHO HAS BEEN HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE STILL IS, OWNS QUITE A FEW APARTMENTS IN TOWN.

AND HE SAYS THEY AVERAGE 35% PETS.

35% OF 600 BEDS IS, YOU KNOW, 200 PLUS DOGS.

A LITTLE ITTY BITTY YARD PET STATION FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED DOGS IS PROBLEMATIC.

THANK YOU.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THAT.

OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING FORGOTTEN WHO I.

YOU CAN SIT. MARY.

WHOEVER SAID THAT? I COULD HAVE SAID THAT, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING IT.

I WAS THAT YOU, TED, THAT SAID THAT OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING FORGOTTEN? NOW, SOMEBODY MADE THAT COMMENT, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING COMMENT, AND I WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE FORGETTING? I KNOW I'VE DRIVEN THERE.

I'VE SEEN THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR WORK ON STREETS.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HASN'T BEEN FORGOTTEN.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN FUNDING ISSUES, AND I KNOW STAFF IS REALLY THEY ARE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME STUFF, AND I'VE BROUGHT THAT TO THE TABLE QUITE SOME TIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS HARD.

IT'S HARD FOR EVERYBODY.

AND SOMEBODY ALSO SAID WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE.

WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE CARE TOO.

AND I DON'T KNOW, NOBODY ELSE IS VOLUNTEERING TO CLAIM THAT STATEMENT, SO I'LL BE GLAD TO RESPOND TO IT IF YOU WISH.

PLEASE. AND THAT IS JUST SIMPLY I THINK THAT WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR OVER THE LAST 15 OR SO YEARS, I'M DOING THIS OFF THE FLY.

THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION, LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SEEING ANY TEETH, IF YOU WILL, IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION DESIGNATION.

AND SO HERE'S THIS GROUP TRYING TO IMPROVE AND MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE CONCERN IS THEY'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT IN TERMS OF OF MAINTAINING STREETS, POTHOLES.

UTILITY ISSUES, TRAFFIC.

AND THEN THIS QUOTE, NEW SHINY DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG AND THAT'S.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT BEING A BUFFER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITY IS TWO STORIES AT MOST UNIVERSITY PROPERTIES ON UNIVERSITY.

AND NOW YOU'VE GOT HISTORIC OVERTON.

AND THE BUFFER THEY'RE PROPOSING IS SEVEN STORIES TALL.

WELL, A BUFFER USUALLY MEANS IT'S SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.

SO IF UNIVERSITY HAD TEN STORIES OKAY, I'LL BUY I'LL BUY A BUFFER OF SEVEN FROM TEN 7 TO 1.

BUT ONE, SEVEN AND ONE, THAT'S NOT A BUFFER I THINK PART YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS DOES COME BACK TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND, AND AND PARALLEL IS CERTAINLY CORRECT.

THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO ASK FOR ANY MORE VARIANCE.

THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO ASK FOR ANY VARIANCES BECAUSE THE, THE CHANGE OF THE CODE, THEY THEY DID MAKE MINOR CHANGES TO THE TO THE PROJECT, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT.

WHAT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY WAS THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE CAME INTO EFFECT, WHERE SUDDENLY THE SETBACKS ARE ONLY FIVE FEET ON TWO OF THE STREETS AND ONLY TEN FOOT ON THE OTHER.

WELL, MARY, I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK I'M GOING TO KIND OF TAKE CONTROL BACK HERE BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING OFF AND NO FAULT OF ANYBODY'S.

I THINK WE'RE GETTING BACK OFF OF THE QUESTION AND ANSWER.

WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

EVERYONE'S HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

SO I'D SAY IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR MARY THAT SHE CAN ANSWER SPECIFICALLY, IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NOW.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GLAD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MISS PATTERSON HARRIS, YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR AN OPPONENT.

I DO HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IS TO ANSWER OTHER THAN THE FOLKS WHO WERE BE A PART.

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DO I NEED TO ASK THAT AGAIN? OR WAS IT CLEAR WHAT I WAS ASKING? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I WAS ASKING WHO WAS MADE A PART OF THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARALLEL.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT WAS STATED THAT THEY MET WITH SOME, I GUESS, SOME REPRESENTATIVES OR HEADS OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO HERE TONIGHT WERE MADE A PART OF THAT.

THAT'S MY QUESTION.

WELL, I GUESS I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.

MISS PATTERSON HARRIS. WHO HERE ACTUALLY OWNS A PROPERTY IN THAT AREA? OKAY. AND THEN I WOULD ASK WHO ACTUALLY THAT'S HERE ACTUALLY LIVES IN THAT AREA.

OKAY. AND JUST.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR BACK TO YOU.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE STATEMENT BECAUSE I KIND OF WHAT YOU ASKED.

BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR FOLKS SAY, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? WE ONLY TEND TO THINK OF FOLKS WHO LIE IN A BED AT A RESIDENCE.

BUT LIVING IS SHOPPING, WORSHIPING.

BEING A BUSINESS OWNER AND ALL OF THAT.

SO AND THAT'S MY THOUGHT BECAUSE I DON'T JUST WHEN YOU SAY, WHERE DO I LIVE? AND I SAY, LOVE, YOU SAY, NO, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND I GIVE YOU MY ADDRESS.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PLACE I LIVE.

I GO SOMEWHERE EVERYWHERE I DRIVE EVERYBODY, I DRIVE IT ALL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THAT QUESTION FOR ME AND THAT QUESTION, WHEN YOU ASK WHO LIVED THERE, THAT THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE PROPERTY AND SLEEP THERE AT NIGHT, BUT THAT YOU FIND YOURSELF THERE FOR WORSHIP, FOR BUSINESS, FOR WHATEVER.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. NO, MA'AM.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE GALLERY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF OPPONENTS? ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE ON COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION OF THE PROPONENT? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING.

MS. PATTERSON HARRIS.

I THOUGHT SOMEONE HAD HIT THEIR DO I HAVE A HAVE A FEW, IF THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT? I'M SORRY. DAVID. UP HERE OR.

CHRISTIAN. PENROD OR SUSANNA? THOSE ARE THREE I HAVE LISTED.

LET'S START THIS WAY. WHO WAS THE ATTORNEY? THAT WAS MISS SUZANNE KIDRON.

OKAY, SUZANNE. LET'S TALK.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

YES, MA'AM. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT SOMETHING TO.

AND THIS IS JUST ME.

YOU SAID THE THE THE QUOTE THAT YOU GAVE WAS FROM THE PRESIDENT AT TEXAS TECH, 1925.

YES, MA'AM. FROM TEXAS TECHNOLOGICAL COLLEGE.

THE SAME UNIVERSITY WHO WOULD NOT ALLOW FOLKS OF COLOR TO ATTEND.

YES, MA'AM. SO, SO SO WHAT? WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T OFFEND FOLKS WITH THE STUFF WE PUSH ON THEM, BECAUSE FOR SOME OF US, THAT'S A NASTY STATEMENT.

MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND AS A PERSON OF COLOR, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

YES, MA'AM. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND WHOMEVER CAN ANSWER ONLY DO ONLY STUDENTS ARE.

STUDENTS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO RENT THIS AT THIS FACILITY.

YEAH. NO, WE MARKET TO STUDENTS.

OKAY? OKAY.

ANYONE CAN RENT THERE. OKAY.

AND WHICH ONE OF YOU ALL WERE PRESENT FOR THE COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU. HOW MANY? HOW MANY FOLKS WERE WERE THERE? YOU REMEMBER? YES. DAVID, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU COME UP BECAUSE IT APPEARS YOU MAY HAVE THE ANSWERS.

SO WE CAN KEEP ON TRACK TO WHO YES IS RESPONDING.

SO WE WE SPOKE WITH SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH CASUALLY, BUT WE WENT OVER TO MEET WITH THEM.

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I DON'T REMEMBER THEM ALL, BUT SEVERAL THAT ARE HERE TODAY THAT DID NOT RAISE THEIR HANDS WHEN YOU ASKED.

SO. OKAY, SO SINCE THE LAST TIME, HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD TO MEET WITH THE GROUP OF OF OF CITIZENS? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY ORGANIZE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

AND THE REASON I ASK BECAUSE COMMUNICATING WITH FOLKS IS REAL HUGE WITH ME.

NO, I UNDERSTAND, YEAH, IT'S BIG WITH ME BECAUSE I THINK IT HELPS TO FOR THE PROPONENT TO SHARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF SHARE AND MAYBE THEM TO COME TO SOME COMMON GROUND.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WANTING TO KNOW THAT.

WHAT THE WHAT THE HAVE YOU GUYS HAD ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE ADMINS AT TEXAS TECH? WE HAVE. YES.

AND BRIEFLY WHAT WAS THAT REGARDING? SO ONE, I WANT TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION.

WE HAVE NOT MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS IN THIS GO AROUND.

WE TOOK THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT THAT FROM LAST TIME AND MADE AND MADE THE CHANGES.

SO IF THAT WAS YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, THEN.

YEAH, I WAS I WAS DOWN IS CORRECT.

WE DID NOT THIS TIME.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WANTING TO KNOW FROM THE LAST TIME UNTIL NOW.

YES. YEAH. IF THERE'S BEEN ANY, ANY COMMUNICATION, WE WENT AWAY AND REDESIGNED THE BUILDING FROM, FROM THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED LAST TIME.

EARLY INDICATIONS WERE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET SUPPORT FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO OKAY, I HAVE I HAVE REACHED OUT TO I'M ON THE ADVISORY BOARD AT THE COLLEGE OF ARCHITECTURE.

I'VE SOUGHT ASSISTANCE.

YES, SIR. IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND AND JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THINGS.

I HAD A ONE ON ONE MEETING WITH PRESIDENT SCHOVANEC.

I WASN'T LOBBYING HIM.

HE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE PROJECT.

I WAS WONDERING, AND THEN I MET WITH A COUPLE OF THE BOARD OF REGENTS, FORMER BOARD OF REGENTS, THE CURRENT CHANCELLOR.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AGAIN.

TEXAS TECH HAS NOT OFFERED ANY OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT OTHER THAN THEY'RE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND OKAY, I WE HAPPEN TO WE'RE VERY INVOLVED AT TEXAS TECH.

OKAY. AND ME PERSONALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF MAYBE THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY IN NEED, YOU KNOW, OF HOUSING WITH THE IDEA OF GROWING THE UNIVERSITY'S ATTENDANCE, I'LL TELL YOU THAT I VISITED.

I WAS IN TECH. I FEEL WEIRD ABOUT THAT.

SOMEWHAT BLUE. YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK LOUD ENOUGH THAT HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY WILL.

I VISITED THE REV.

YES. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

OKAY. THERE.

AND IT WAS AN AWESOME FACILITY.

HOWEVER, WHEN I WAS THERE, I WAS EXPECTING ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT MIXED USE OR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, I WAS EXPECTING, LIKE, STORES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHILE I SAW THAT YOU HAD THE WHAT DID YOU CALL THE ROOMS? WHAT THEY HAD THE SMART MARKET, THE SMART MARKET, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU NEED TO RUN THE 7-ELEVEN AND YOU NEED SOME MILK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THOSE THINGS BEING THERE.

SO AND, AND AND I'M UNDER I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT SUFFICES WHAT THE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE.

BUT WHEN IT WAS, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE INFORMATION, I WAS THINKING TRUE COMMERCIAL LIKE STORES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WOULD NOT ONLY ATTRACT THE STUDENTS, BUT WOULD ALSO ATTRACT FOLKS WALKING BY OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO COME IN AND PURCHASE.

SO AND I FOUND THAT WASN'T THE CASE.

I'LL SAY THIS AND THEN I'LL PASS IT ON BECAUSE I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS, BECAUSE HAVING GONE THERE, THAT IS A BOOGER BEAR, THAT THE REV IS A BOOGER BEAR.

IT IS HUGE.

IT IS TALLER THAN KYLE STADIUM.

IT IS ITS TALLEST BUILDING IN COLLEGE STATION.

IT'S THE TALLEST BUILDING BETWEEN AUSTIN AND AND AND HOUSTON IT IS.

AND SO ONCE, ONCE I BROUGHT MYSELF DOWN TO REALIZE THAT IT WOULD NOT BE 19 STORIES, BUT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE SHORTER.

I THOUGHT OF AS AN ALTO.

THAT'S A TEN STORY, THE TEN STORY THAT'S COMING.

OTTO. OTTO.

CORRECT THAT ONE. THAT ONE'S TEN STORIES.

IT IS. OKAY. AND THIS WILL BE THE SEVEN.

BUT I, I'M JUST I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT I WENT THERE.

THANK YOU TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS WERE, WERE LOOKING TO DO.

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YOU GUYS CAN MEET AT SOME PLACE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. PIERCE. YOU MAY STAY CLOSE, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA.

OKAY. THIS IS MY DISTRICT.

AS YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, MY AND AND ALWAYS I AM ALWAYS GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR MY CONSTITUENTS.

UNDERSTOOD. THAT BEING SAID, MARY VINES WROTE.

READ, SENT ME A LETTER.

AND SO I KNOW YOU SAID IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT ONE MORE TIME.

ONE OF HER CONCERNS WAS HEIGHT.

YOU BROUGHT IT DOWN. HOW MUCH FEET? HOW MANY FEET? 19FT, TO BE PRECISE.

HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO DO THAT? AND THIS IS MY DISTRICT, SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO STOP ME FROM ASKING THE QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO ASK.

SO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE.

I WILL WE CHANGE STRUCTURAL SYSTEMS? THE PRIOR WAS A COMBINATION OF DO YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL OF CONCRETE AND WOOD FRAME BUILT ON TOP OF IT, CREATING EXTRAORDINARY THICKNESSES WITHIN THE FLOOR SYSTEMS? WE SWITCHED TO A METAL STUD FRAMING SYSTEM THAT STILL ALLOWS SEVEN FLOORS WITHIN 75FT.

CHAD HAS HELPED US GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING ON THAT.

IT'S SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE ONE THAT WE WERE DOING BEFORE.

BUT GETS US THE SEVEN STORIES WITHIN 75FT.

SO IT WAS CREATIVE TEAMWORK ON OUR PART TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITHOUT LOSING ALL THE DENSITY.

WE DID LOSE 30 SOMETHING BEDS AND SEVERAL AND LIKE 15 OR 20 UNITS IN THE IN THE BUILDING WHEN WE DID THAT.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE SHORT ANSWER FOR HOW WE ACHIEVED IT.

PARKING, PARKING.

LET'S TALK ABOUT PARKING BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING WILL BE AN ISSUE.

AND DO YOU FEEL THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ADEQUATE PARKING.

CAN YOU NOT SAY IF YOU DON'T IF YOU HAVE A CAR, YOU CAN'T STAY AT THIS PLACE? I'M JUST KIDDING. BUT YOU KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT PARKING.

SO ONE OF THE STRATEGIES AGAIN THIS AND I'LL TELL YOU I'M THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO US IN RECENT YEARS.

BUT IF SOMEONE CAME TO US AND WE WERE OUT OF PARKING, WE WOULD HELP THEM FIND A SPOT ON CAMPUS OR SOME PLACE THAT THEY COULD, QUOTE, STORE THEIR CAR. WE DO THIS TO.

WE ARE A PROFITABLE BUSINESS LIKE US.

BUILDING TWO FEW PARKING SPACES IS BAD FOR BUSINESS.

SO WE GO THROUGH AND WE DO MARKET RESEARCH, AND WE LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE MARKET AND GENERALLY WHAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE IN THAT MARKET AND OUR COMP SET, WHICH ARE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE THE MOST LIKE OURS.

WE DO THAT RESEARCH AND THEN WE BUILD TO THAT JUST PLUS A LITTLE BIT.

AND WE'VE BEEN I'M NOT GOING TO SAY LUCKY BECAUSE WE DO WE DO THE RESEARCH.

WE HAD A HANDFUL OF PARKING SPACES LEFT OVER AT REV THAT MISS PATTERSON HARRIS VISITED LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE.

WE HAVE A WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A NEIGHBOR THAT IF WE HAVE SOME OVERFLOW, WE DON'T USE IT LIKE WE DON'T SELL OUT ALL OF OUR PARKING, THE TEN STORY BUILDING WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 100 SPACES LEFT OVER IN THAT BUILDING WHEN WE FINISH BUILDING IT.

SO AM I TELLING YOU THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE PERFECT AT 85%? NO, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND 80%.

BUT IF WE GO OVER, WE WILL HELP FIND A PLACE TO PUT THOSE TO PUT THOSE CARS SO THEY DON'T END UP ON THE STREET.

LET'S TALK ABOUT IT'S BAD FOR US.

YEAH. I'M SORRY.

I'M GOING TO MOVE YOU ALONG JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, TRASH ADDRESS THE TRASH BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED WAS IT'S GOING TO PUT TRASH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

DID YOU SAY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DUMPSTERS, NO DUMPSTERS, INTERNAL TRASH.

WE HAVE INTERNAL TRASH CHUTES, INTERNAL TRASH ROOM.

THERE'S A ROLL UP DOOR THAT OPENS UP OUR STAFF MEMBERS.

ROLL THE TRASH OUT.

WHEN I'M GOING TO SAY WASTE MANAGEMENT, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT PROBABLY WASTE MANAGEMENT.

WHEN THEY COME BY, WE ROLL THEM OUT.

THEY THEY PUT THE TRASH ON THE TRUCKS, WE PUT THE BINS BACK IN THE BUILDING, WE CLOSE THE DOOR AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY SPILLAGE OUT THERE, WE CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE IT'S OUR PROPERTY.

YOU TALKED ABOUT ANIMALS BECAUSE ANIMALS CONTINUES TO BE A CONVERSATION JUST REINFORCED TO ME THE ANIMAL SITUATION YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE HOW MUCH FOR RENT FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP A PET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE PET RENT IS? AUSTIN LEWIS, YOU KNOW.

I MEAN, IT'S NORMALLY WE HAVE A PET RENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE, I MEAN, I'D PAY $25 TO KEEP MY PET DEPOSIT DOWN.

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250 NONREFUNDABLE 250 REFUNDABLE.

AND THEN I THINK IT WAS 300.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MARKET.

BUT THE ONE THING YOU WANT TO COME SPEAK IN BEFORE WE JUST GO OFF INTO ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE THESE QUESTIONS POINTED TO THE PERSON IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

JUST ONE MORE THING AND THEN THAT'S IT.

THEN ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER CAN HAVE AT IT.

BUT WILL THE VEHICLES HAVE PARKING STICKERS? OR HOW WILL YOU IDENTIFY THAT THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN THE COMPLEX, AND HOW WILL YOU PREVENT THEM FROM GOING INTO SAINT JOHN'S AND PARKING ILLEGALLY? HOW WILL YOU HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY DO THAT? SO THEY HAVE FOBS TO GET IN, IN AND OUT OF THE GARAGE? SOME PROPERTIES WE ASSIGN SPACES, SOME, SOME WE DON'T.

SOME WE PUT TAGS ON THEIR CAR.

I BELIEVE WE PLANNING ON PUTTING THE TAGS HERE BECAUSE OF THAT VERY PROBLEM.

WE HAVE EXTERNAL CAMERAS THAT WE ASSURED SAINT JOHN'S, AND WE WILL.

WE WILL HONOR THAT FACING THEIR PARKING LOT.

WE'LL HAVE A POLICY THAT YOU MAY NOT PARK IN OUR NEIGHBORS PARKING THAT WILL BE IN THE LEASE.

IT WILL BE GROUNDS FOR EVICTION IF YOU DO PROBABLY FINES FIRST AND THEN EVICTION.

WE'VE ALSO AT SOME POINT WE SPOKE TO SAINT JOHN'S ABOUT RENTING SOME OF THEIR SPACES FROM THEM IF THEY SO DESIRE.

WHEN WE WIN, OF COURSE, THERE, IF WE WIN, THEY YOU KNOW, SAID, WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE.

IF WE GET THERE BUT WE, WE INTEND ON BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTS PARKING OVER THERE ANY MORE THAN THEY DO.

LIKE THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S BAD FOR OUR BUSINESS.

WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO PARK IN THE GARAGE, AND IF NOT, WE'LL FIND THEM A PLACE TO PARK IN A COMMUTER LOT.

AND, WELLESLEY, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP.

I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WESLEY, THE WESLEY FOUNDATION, YES.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE WESLEY FOUNDATION.

WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, BUT OUR HANDSHAKE AGREEMENT AT THE MOMENT, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DOCUMENTED IN AN EMAIL BACK AND FORTH, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM SOME SOME BUSINESS GUIDANCE FOR THOSE STUDENTS WHO WANT TO SEEK IT.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM FIRST CHANCE AT JOB OPPORTUNITIES INSIDE OF OUR BUILDING.

BECAUSE WE HIRE STUDENTS, STUDENT STAFF THEIR RESIDENTS TEND TO BE HIGHER PERFORMERS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE MEMBERS HIGHER PERFORMERS, LEADERS.

THAT'S WHO WE SEEK OUT.

SO THAT WILL GIVE US ACCESS TO BOTH THEIR STUDENTS AND THEM TO US.

WE'VE OFFERED THEM THE ABILITY TO HAVE MEETINGS WITHIN OUR SPACE.

AND WE ARE GOING TO, BEGINNING THIS YEAR, SPONSOR THEIR ANNUAL STREET FEST OUT OF THEY I GUESS THEY CLOSED DOWN 15TH.

THEY EXPLAINED THAT TO US AND WE ARE GOING TO BE THEIR TITLE SPONSOR THIS YEAR.

AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT A FIVE YEAR ARRANGEMENT.

DIDN'T SEE HOW IT GOES AFTER THAT.

ONE MORE QUESTION. BECAUSE PARTIES, HOW WILL YOU ADDRESS PARTIES? BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER SITUATION THAT EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED WITH, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW PARTIES AND FOR IT TO GET LOUD AND INVASIVE.

HOW WILL YOU CONTROL PARTIES? WELL, IF THEY'RE CALM AND ORGANIZED PARTIES, THEN WE ENCOURAGE THAT.

WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE SOCIAL.

IF THEY GET UNRULY AND THEY START MISBEHAVING AND OR BREAKING THE LAW WE WILL BRING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN, IN ON THAT. AND THEN THOSE WHO ARE BEING IF THEY'RE STILL BEING DISRUPTIVE, THEN THEY'LL BE REMOVED.

SO. THANK YOU, MARY, FOR GIVING ME AN OUTLINE.

AND THANK YOU, MR. PEARCE, FOR RESPONDING TO THE CONCERNS.

CERTAINLY. AND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE PROPONENT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS TO 8.5.

FROM THE SHEET. YOU WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY? I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO SUBSTITUTE THE ORDINANCE BEFORE.

BEFORE US FOR ITEM 8.5 ZONE CASE 2016 E WITH THE ONE I HAVE PUT BEFORE YOU ALL.

THE SUBSTITUTION INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE.

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THIS LANGUAGE REFLECTS THE REQUIREMENT OF A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE BY COUNCIL TO PASS THIS ACTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL THAT'S A MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND SECOND.

ALL RIGHT COUNCIL. NOW WE CAN MOVE TO DISCUSSION.

IF ANYBODY HAS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

AS FAR AS THOSE IN THE GALLERY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF CHRISTIAN OR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF STAFF? MISS PATTERSON HARRIS.

MISS KRISTA SAGER OKAY.

IT'S INDICATED THAT IN STAFF'S REPORT, THE BACKUP THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT OR THIS ZONE CHANGE DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE FUTURE LAND USE.

TALK TO ME.

AND IF IT DOES NOT, HOW WOULD IT? WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE FOR IT TO DO SO? SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO PULL UP THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WHILE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY. SO HERE'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE YELLOW IS RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY.

THE RED IS COMMERCIAL, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED FOR RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, WITH ONE PROPERTY BEING DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL.

YEAH. SO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD FALL INTO THE RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY FUTURE LAND USE MAP CATEGORY.

SO THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE COLORS ON THIS MAP.

THIS MAP IS JUST ONE TOOL THAT WE USE WHEN WE LOOK AT ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.

AND IT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADDRESSES THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND STATES THAT IT CAN BE CHANGED WHEN NEEDED.

IF THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION THAT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THIS MAP, COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE IT IF THEY WANT TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY. OKAY.

VERTICAL MIXED USE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ITS DEFINITION AND, AND WHATNOT.

THE DEFINITION IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF VERTICAL MIXED USE BASICALLY STATES THAT IT IS A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

IT DOES NOT GIVE A MINIMUM PERCENTAGE NOR A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EITHER THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL.

SO PROVIDED A PROJECT IS GIVING BOTH OF THOSE, IT CAN BE CONSIDERED VERTICAL MIXED USE.

WE DID CLARIFY THAT THE COMMERCIAL HAS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THE GYM THAT'S WITH PART OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS, THAT'S NOT COMMERCIAL, THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

THEIR MARKET THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WOULD SATISFY THE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT.

I HAVE MY MIND THINKING OF THINKING A DIFFERENT WAY WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED LAST TIME.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE, I DIDN'T REALIZE SOMETHING THAT LIGHT.

COULD SATISFY MIXED USE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ALMOST A OKEY DOKE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S SOMEBODY PULLING SOMETHING TO MAKE YOU THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I WAS I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WAS CONFUSED BY THAT.

YOU WEREN'T, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'RE BRIGHTER THAN, YOU KNOW.

YOU'VE GONE TO LAW SCHOOL AND STUFF AND YOU KNOW THAT.

BUT I WAS I WAS THINKING OF BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT MIXED USE STUFF IN DISTRICT TWO, SO I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT COULD THAT COULD SATISFY THE SITUATION.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MISS MARTINEZ-GARCIA, WELCOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND IT'S FUNNY THAT COUNCILWOMAN PATTERSON ASKED ABOUT THE CLARIFICATION FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK THE VERY SAME QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE RESPONSE.

ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS SOMEBODY SAID, OR YOU CAN'T BUILD THE CROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

SO TO THE NORTH OF 14TH, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES.

AND I BELIEVE MR. ABRAHAM OWNS THOSE PROPERTIES.

CAN YOU KIND OF CLARIFY BECAUSE DOES THAT MEAN THAT HE'S GOING TO TEAR THAT DOWN TOO? NO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAND USE MATRIX IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, VERTICAL MIXED USE IS A SEPARATE STANDALONE USE FROM

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IT IS ITS OWN USE, SO IT IS NOT CONTAINED WITHIN THAT LIST THAT PROHIBITS IT FROM BEING BUILT ACROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO IT IS ALLOWED.

OKAY. THERE WAS A QUESTION, I THINK IT WAS BY TED ABOUT OR SOMEBODY POINTED OUT SECTION 39.07 .032.

AND THIS BEING PREMATURE, BUT THEN THE COUNSEL FOR MR. PEARCE. SHE HAD HER PERSPECTIVE.

IS THIS PREMATURE? NO. SO, AS WAS ALREADY STATED, THE PRIOR APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

CITY COUNCIL THEN DENIED THE REQUEST, BUT THE PROVISION IN THE CODE REQUIRES DENIAL FROM BOTH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, TO ADD TO THAT, HAD THAT PRIOR APPLICATION RECEIVED BOTH A DENIAL FROM PNC AND DENIAL FROM COUNCIL, THEY STILL WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME BACK BEFORE ONE YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS A DIFFERENT REQUEST.

THE FORMER REQUEST WAS FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A BRAND NEW CODE UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

BRAND NEW DISTRICT, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT WASN'T IN EXISTENCE UNDER THE FORMER CODE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BRING IT BACK REGARDLESS BECAUSE IT IS A BRAND NEW REQUEST.

AND THEN FINALLY OR FINAL HAS TO DO WITH HISTORIC.

AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS NOT PART OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IS THAT TRUE? I MEAN, IT IS CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC.

IT IS CONFUSING AT TIMES.

CAN YOU CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? YES. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE FIRST IS THE BOUNDARY FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

THIS PROPERTY IS CONTAINED WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.

HOWEVER, AS SOMEONE ELSE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PROTECTIONS THAT COME WITH THAT DESIGNATION.

SO IN 2011, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT DESIGN REGULATIONS TO HELP PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS PROPERTY WAS SPECIFICALLY LEFT OUT OF THAT BOUNDARY AT THE OWNER'S REQUEST.

AND SO IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THOSE DESIGN REGULATIONS, WHICH IS WHY HE WAS ABLE TO DEMOLISH THOSE HOMES.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT HISTORIC AND AND DESIGN, I NOTICED THERE'S ALL THESE VINTAGE LIGHT POLES.

ARE THOSE GOING TO BE SUSTAINED OR WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WAS TO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE HISTORIC.

I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, WHETHER IT'S I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST AT THAT POINT.

OF CONFUSION. DON'T LAUGH AT ME, MAYOR.

I THINK, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE COULD NOT REGULATE THE TYPE OF LIGHT FIXTURES THAT ARE PUT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU KNOW, THE SOUTH OVERTON HAS ITS OWN UNIQUE WAY.

AND AS SOMEBODY SAID, IT IS THE MOST HISTORIC.

SOME THEY SAID OLDEST, BUT IT IS THE MOST HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME.

YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I GUESS I'LL CHRISTIAN.

I GUESS YOU CAN TAKE A SEAT.

I'M GOING TO STATE PUBLICLY THAT I DO NOT THINK THIS IS IN ANY WAY OR SHAPE OR FORM ARBITRARY, CAPRICIOUS, OR AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SUBSTANTIALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA, BECAUSE TEXAS TECH IS NEAR, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE'S AN INCONSISTENCY IN THE ZONING.

I BELIEVE THIS IS SUITABLE FOR THIS AREA.

AND I THINK CONSIDERING THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY, I THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY.

FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I BELIEVE WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT.

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ONE THING AS DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST BENEFITING ONE DEVELOPER.

AND I THINK THAT'S PATENTLY NOT TRUE.

WE'RE TRYING TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY, AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS AREA THAT THIS BENEFITS IF THIS IS NOT THERE.

THERE'S THERE ARE AIRBNBS, THERE ARE RENTAL HOMES.

EVERYONE IS A DEVELOPER IN THAT AREA.

THEY'RE BUILDING NEW HOMES.

THEY'RE THEY'RE RENTING OUT TO STUDENTS.

AND AND SO A LOT OF DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA, BESIDES THE ONES THAT ARE BUILDING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR CITY, THIS PROVIDES A TAX BASE FOR OUR LUBBOCK INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THAT.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS PROVIDES A BENEFIT TO OUR BASIC SERVICES IN THAT AREA.

AND SO I THINK FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, I'M A PROPONENT OF THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR THE LUBBOCK AS A WHOLE.

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ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF 8.5, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1.

WITH THAT IT IS 7:05 P.M.

AND CITY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.