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>> ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE LUBBOCK CITY COUNCIL FOR FEBRUARY 25, 2025.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH

[1. Executive Session]

THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.071 TO CONSULT WITH AND SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY'S LEGAL COUNSEL, 551.072 TO DISCUSS THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY AND SECTION 551.087 REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW RECESSING AT 12:34.

ALL RIGHT.

CITY COUNCIL NOW RECONVENING AN OPEN SESSION AT 02:25 PM AND WE'LL TAKE UP OUR CEREMONIAL ITEMS. I'M GOING TO CALL UP PASTOR JARRET BAKER OF GLAD TIDINGS CHURCH

[1. Invocation]

ON 50TH AVENUE S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Q, IS IT REALLY ON Q? IS THAT WHAT YOUR ADDRESS IS? HE'S GOING TO LEAD US OUR PRAYER AND AFTER THAT, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM WILL LEAD US IN OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND AS YOU'RE ABLE?

>> I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR INVITING ME TO OPEN UP IN PRAYER.

AMEN IN PAUL THE APOSTLE, WHO WROTE OVER HALF THE NEW TESTAMENT.

HE TOLD HIS SPIRITUAL SON IN THE FAITH, TIMOTHY.

THE FIRST THING HE WANTED HIM TO DO WAS TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP.

AT OUR CHURCH, WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.

WE DO PRAYER EVERY TUESDAY AT 11:00, AND WE DID THE SAME THING THIS MORNING AND WE PRAY FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP HERE IN THE CITY OF LUBBOCK, THAT WE CAN BE AT PEACE, THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THE WILL IN THE WAYS OF GOD.

I WANTED TO READ ONE OF HIS PRAYERS IN EPHESIANS, CHAPTER 2, 17 THROUGH 24.

THE APOSTLE PAUL PRAYED.

HE SAID THAT THE GOD OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE FATHER OF GLORY, THAT HE WOULD GIVE UNTO YOU THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM AND REVELATION IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM, AND THAT THE EYES OF YOUR UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE ENLIGHTENED, THAT YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT IS THE HOPE OF HIS CALLING.

WHAT ARE THE RICHES OF THE GLORY OF HIS INHERITANCE AND THE SAINTS? WHAT IS THE EXCEEDING GREATNESS OF HIS POWER TOWARD US WHO BELIEVE, ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF HIS MIGHTY POWER, WHICH HE WORKED IN CHRIST WHEN HE RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD AND SEATED HIM AT HIS RIGHT HAND IN HEAVENLY PLACES.

FAR ABOVE ALL PRINCIPALITY, POWER, MIGHT, AND DOMINION, EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED, NOT ONLY IN THIS AGE, BUT ALSO IN THAT WHICH IS TO COME AND HE'S PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIS FEET AND GIVEN HIM TO BE THE HEAD OVER ALL THINGS TO THE CHURCH, WHICH IS HIS BODY, THE FULLNESS OF HIM.

WHO FILLS ALL AND ALL.

FATHER, ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD, I JUST PRAY THAT THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY, EVEN TODAY, AND THE ISSUES THAT THEY MAY BE FACING WOULD BE FILLED WITH A SPIRIT OF WISDOM, REVELATION, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING IN ALL OF YOUR WAYS OF DOING THINGS.

THAT THEY WOULD LEAD THIS CITY IN WISDOM, THAT THEY WOULD LEAD THIS CITY IN PEACE, THAT THEY WOULD LEAD THIS CITY IN JUSTICE.

LORD, I THANK YOU TODAY, THAT AS WE AGREE WITH THE VERY PRAYERS OF THE APOSTLE PAUL WRITTEN 2000 YEARS AGO, THEY ARE STILL AS POWERFUL TODAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> THANK Y'ALL.

>> NOW, YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF

[2. Pledges of Allegiance]

ALLEGIANCE HONORING OUR COUNTRY AND OUR STATE FLAG.

>> ALL RIGHT. I NOW CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND I WOULD TAKE UP CITIZEN COMMENTS, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CITIZEN COMMENTS BEFORE OUR MEETINGS.

IF YOU SIGN UP, YOU CAN SPEAK TO ANY ITEM ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA, AND YOU'RE PROVIDED THREE MINUTES TIME TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

WE WELCOME THAT AT EVERY MEETING, BUT WE HAVE NO ONE TODAY TO DO THAT.

WE'LL NOW TAKE UP ITEM 4.1,

[4. Minutes]

THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 28, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 4.1?

>> I MOVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION, ANY CHANGES, ANY AMENDMENTS? IF I SEE NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOW BY SAYING, AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED, SAY, NO. A HEAR NONE.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO TAKE UP ITEM 5 ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[5. Consent Agenda - Items considered to be routine are enacted by one motion without separate discussion. If the City Council desires to discuss an item, the item is removed from the Consent Agenda and considered separately.]

NORMALLY, WE CAN PASS THESE BY CONSENT WITHOUT DISCUSSION UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS AN ITEM FROM IT, AND I'VE PULLED ITEM 5.10 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.

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IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 5.10?

>> I MOVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR OPPOSITION TO THAT? NONE. IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. I HEAR NONE.

THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

OUR CONSENT AGENDA HAS PASSED OTHER THAN 5.10. WE'LL TAKE THAT UP NOW.

[10. Resolution - Public Works Water System Operations: Consider a resolution authorizing the Mayor to execute Purchase Order 22105397, with VWR International, LLC, for the purchase of a 6495 Triple Quadrupole Liquid Chromatograph Mass Spectrophotometer, to enable testing for "forever chemicals", pharmaceuticals, and unregulated contaminants in water and wastewater.]

THIS IS CONSIDERED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ME TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE ORDER WITH VWR INTERNATIONAL LLC FOR THE PURCHASE OF AND GET READY FOR THIS 6495 TRIPLE QUADRUPLE LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPH MASS SPECTROPHOTOMETER.

THAT'S WHAT DRAGGED MY ATTENTION TO THIS LITTLE PARTICULAR ITEM.

I HAD TO PRACTICE SAYING THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES.

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANT.

A LOT OF FANCY WORDS THERE.

I WANTED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND I CAN IMAGINE MAYBE SOME CITIZENS LOOKING AT THIS GOING, WHAT THE HECK ARE WE BUYING THERE? IT'S NOT THE FLUX CAPACITOR. I KNOW THAT MUCH.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LET US KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALLOWS US TO TEST FOR CHEMICALS IN OUR WATER.

TELL US WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF PRONOUNCING THAT. SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

THIS IS THE PURCHASE AND I'LL TRY IT MYSELF, A TRIPLE QUADRUPLE LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPH MASS SPECTROPHOTOMETER.

THIS IS TO ENABLE US TO TEST FOR FOREVER CHEMICALS, AS AS THE EPA CALLS IT AND REGULATIONS, AND TO START WHAT MIGHT YOU ASK ARE FOREVER CHEMICALS? FOREVER CHEMICALS ARE A GROUP OF POLYFLORAL ALKYL, ANOTHER GOOD WORD TO SAY, BUT WE USUALLY CALL THEM PFAS CHEMICALS.

THESE ARE CHEMICALS THAT ARE TYPICALLY USED IN MANY CONSUMER PRODUCTS AND HAS BEEN IN MANUFACTURING IN UNITED STATES SINCE 1940S.

THEY'RE KNOWN AS FOREVER CHEMICALS BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY BREAK DOWN EASILY IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

THEY CAN ALSO ACCUMULATE OVER TIME, AND THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE HARMFUL TO HUMANS.

MOST OF THESE ARE FOUND IN YOUR NONSTICK COOKWARE, SO YOUR NONSTICK COOKWARE WHERE YOU MAKE SURE YOUR EGGS DON'T STICK TO THE PAN AND WATER RESISTANCE FABRIC, STAIN REPELLENTS, AND ALSO FIRE FIGHTING FOAM.

WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION? WELL, THE EPA HAS JUST STARTED AND STARTING TO ESTABLISH NEW NATIONWIDE ENFORCEABLE WATER STANDARDS RELATED TO THESE CHEMICALS AND OUR DRINKING STANDARDS.

THEY'VE LAID OUT A TIMELINE TO GO AHEAD AND WORK AND MONITOR AND REGULATE THESE CHEMICALS.

WITHIN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF ESTABLISHING THESE RULES BETWEEN 2024-2027, EVERY CITY IS REQUIRED TO START THEIR INITIAL MONITORING OF PFAS AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

STARTING IN THREE YEARS AFTER THAT, WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUBLISH OUR INITIAL MONITORING REPORTS THROUGH WHAT WE CALL OUR ANNUAL WATER QUALITY REPORT, WHICH IS DELIVERED TO ALL OF OUR CITIZENS ANNUALLY, AND THAT WILL HAVE THE RESULTS OF ANY OF THOSE IF WE HAVE ANY PFAS IN OUR WATER STARTING IN 2027.

IN 2029, STARTING FIVE YEARS AFTER THIS, ALL MUNICIPALITIES ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH WHAT THEY CALL THE MAXIMUM CONTAMINANT LEVELS OR MCLS THAT THEY ESTABLISHED.

ONE THING THAT THEY ESTABLISHED ARE 4-10 PARTS PER TRILLION.

IT'S A HARD THING TO COMPREHEND AND UNDERSTAND.

WE TYPICALLY WORK IN PARTS PER MILLION AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE PUTTING REGULATIONS IN PARTS PER TRILLION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT SUCH SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT.

WHAT IS A PART PER TRILLION? THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ONE DROP OF FOOD COLORING IN 18 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER OR ONE DROP OF FOOD COLORING IN 20 OLYMPIC SIZED SWIMMING POOLS.

ONE THING THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER AND I LIKE IT, IT'S ONE TENTH OF AN INCH BETWEEN THE DISTANCE OF THE EARTH AND THE MOON.

THAT IS WHAT ONE TRILLION PARTS PER TRILLION IS. HOW SMALL IT IS.

HOW WILL THE CITY OF LUBBOCK MONITOR THIS PFAS IN SUCH SMALL QUANTITIES? THAT'S WITH THE PURCHASE OF A TRIPLE QUADRUPLE LIQUID CHROMATOGRAPH MASS SPECTROPHOTOMETER IS THIS PRIMARY INCIDENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE HERE.

THIS EQUIPMENT WILL BE USED AND WILL BE HOUSED AT OUR NORTH WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE HAVE A WATER LABORATORY RIGHT THERE AT THAT TREATMENT PLANT AND WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OF LUBBOCK AND OPERATED BY OUR CITY STAFF.

WE HAVE A PERMITTED AND REGULATORY MONITORED LABORATORY THERE, AND SO THEY'LL BE THE ONES DOING IT.

THIS PURCHASE IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $572,082.59.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? A LOT OF PEOPLE MAYBE ARE AWARE, YOU SEE ADS ON TV ALL THE TIME FOR LAWYERS.

I DON'T WANT TO BAD MOUTH A LAWYER.

BUT THERE IS CONCERN OVER THE EXISTENCE OF THESE FOREVER CHEMICALS,

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SUBSTANCES IN OUR DRINKING WATER.

WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF IT, BUT WE'RE REQUIRED TO MONITOR FOR THEM AT AN INCREDIBLY INCREDIBLY DISCRETE LEVEL.

IT'S NOT INEXPENSIVE TO DO THAT.

BUT IT'S PART OF OUR WHOLE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR WATER DOES MEET ALL QUALITY STANDARDS.

LUBBOCK WATER IS THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND SO I JUST WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE ARE AHEAD OF THIS PROCESS WHERE IF YOU SEE THIS AND THEY'RE GOING, WHY ARE WE SPENDING THIS MONEY FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DO IT. THAT'S WHY WE ARE DOING IT.

WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE EFFECTS OF IT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. NOW I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR TO APPROVE ITEM 4.10.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR.

LET ME KNOW BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED, SAY, NAY. I HEAR NONE.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

COUNCIL WILL TAKE UP THE REGULAR AGENDA AND START WITH ITEM 6.1

[1. Board Appointments - City Secretary: Declare three appointments by the Mayor to the Lubbock Housing Authority Board of Commissioners: Toby Cecil, Vecelia Mann, Jerry Ramirez.]

REGARDING THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENTS TO THE LUBBOCK HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.

I'M NOW GOING TO CALL ON OUR CITY SECRETARY COURTNEY PAZ TO PROVIDE OUR STAFF BRIEFING ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I'LL JUST READ THE STATEMENT INTO THE RECORD.

AS THESE ARE YOUR APPOINTMENTS, IT'S JUST FOR HISTORICAL NEEDS.

I HEREBY READ INTO THE RECORD AND DECLARE THAT THE MAYOR'S THREE APPOINTMENTS TO THE LUBBOCK HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ARE TOBY CECIL, VECELIA MANN AND JERRY RAMIREZ.

>> THANK YOU, MISS PAZ. THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

TAKE UP ITEM 6.2 AND CALL ON THE CITY MANAGER

[2. Resolution - Finance: Consider a resolution accepting the City of Lubbock Annual Comprehensive Financial Report, for Fiscal Year that ended September 30, 2024.]

TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING AT THIS TIME ON ITEM 6.2.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

I KNOW THIS IS THE DAY WE HAVE LONG AWAITED.

THIS IS THE PRESENTATION OF YOUR FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30, 2024, COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.

TODAY, WE CALL THAT AN AC.

YOU USED TO CALL IT THE AUDIT.

YOUR FIRST PRESENTER TODAY WILL BE MISS JENNIFER RIPKA WITH WEAVER, AND SHE WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH HER SLIDES, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND THEN WE'LL BRING MR. JIMENEZ BACK AND GO OVER A BUNCH OF NUMBERS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT. ARE WE READY, JOE?

>> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. MISS RIPKA, PLEASE.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER RIPKA.

I'M THE PARTNER ON THE EXTERNAL AUDIT WITH WEAVER AND THIS IS JUST SOME INFORMATION ABOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES BOTH THE CITY AS WELL AS LP&L, WHICH WE PRESENTED TO LAST WEEK.

I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH OUR AUDIT PROCESS AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO YOU ALL FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

WE DO PERFORM THE AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS, AS WELL AS GENERALLY ACCEPTED GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS.

THAT'S OVER BOTH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL AND STATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THAT THE CITY RECEIVES.

WE DO HAVE THAT FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE ACT ITSELF.

BUT THEN SEPARATE FROM THAT, WE DO DO AN AUDIT OVER THE FEDERAL AND STATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THAT THE CITY RECEIVES AND SO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY DO RECEIVE ASSISTANCE, HEALTH, TRANSIT, ETC.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT SEPARATE FROM THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE OUTSIDE OF FEDERAL AND STATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT COMPLIANCE WITH VARIOUS TYPES OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

THE BIGGEST GOING TO BE PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT, AS WELL AS THE PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGES.

THIS IS OUR AUDIT TIMELINE.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR YOUR STAFF, THE AUDIT IS ONGOING.

IT TAKES A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FROM START ALL THE WAY TO FINISH AND SO WHILE YOUR STAFF IS DOING THEIR JOB HERE AT THE CITY, THEY'RE ALSO HAVING TO PREPARE FOR THE AUDIT.

THE OVERVIEW. WE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES FROM WHAT WE HAD SET FORTH AS OUR STRATEGY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AUDIT, AND SO NOT A LOT OF CHANGES THERE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE ENDING OR THE FINAL RESULT, WE HAVE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION THAT'S A CLEAN OPINION.

IT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL ASSURANCE THAT CAN BE PLACED ON A SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND WE HAD THAT ON BOTH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL AS

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COMPLIANCE OVER THE STATE AND FEDERAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

IN TERMS OF UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS, THE CITY HAD NONE, AND THERE WERE NO AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE PROPOSED AS PART OF OUR AUDIT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN AUDIT PERSPECTIVE, HAVING A CLEAN OPINION, HAVING NO AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS AND NO PROPOSED AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THAT MANAGEMENT PASSED ON, AS WELL AS NO SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES OR MATERIAL WEAKNESSES, THAT'S REALLY THE BEST THAT YOU CAN GET.

THESE ARE THE SIGNIFICANT RISKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF OUR TEAM, CHARGES FOR SERVICES, SO UTILITIES ACROSS THE BOARD, SO WATER, SEWER, REFUSE, HELPING OF THE ELECTRIC, ETC, THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE IN THAT CHARGES FOR SERVICES PIECE AND THEN THE GRANTS, FEDERAL AND STATE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCURACY CUTOFF AS WELL AS EXISTENCE AND OCCURRENCE.

WE NOTED NO FINDINGS WHEN WE DID OUR TESTING ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

THIS IS JUST REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS IN WRITTEN FORM.

I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING TO KNOW IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES THIS YEAR.

WE DID IMPLEMENT GASB STATEMENT 100, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

AS FAR AS SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTING ESTIMATES, THE PENSION, THE OTHER POST EMPLOYMENT BENEFIT LIABILITIES AND EXPENSES, AS WELL AS INCURRED BUT NOT REPORTED LIABILITIES, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE LARGEST ESTIMATES HERE AT THE CITY THAT MANAGEMENT COULD INCORPORATE BIAS INTO.

OF COURSE, WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE KEY FACTORS AND ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE UTILIZED AS PART OF OUR TESTING, AND WE NOTED THOSE TO BE REASONABLE DURING THE COURSE OF OUR TESTING.

>> MOVING FORWARD, NO SUSPECTED FRAUD, NO UNUSUAL TRANSACTIONS, NO DIFFICULTIES THAT WERE ENCOUNTERED DURING THE COURSE OF THE AUDIT.

WE DO REQUIRE WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS AS PART OF OUR FINAL STEP OF THE AUDIT, JUST NOTING THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS WITHHELD FROM US AS PART OF THE AUDIT PROCESS.

AS FAR AS AN AUDIT GOES, YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT TEAM.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT.

AGAIN, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THAT.

NOT ONLY AS PART OF YOUR DAY-TO-DAY WORK, BUT FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING BACK TO THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

THEY'RE MOVING INTO BUDGET, AND SO HAVING TO GO BACK AND LOOKING AT THAT, IT CAN BE A LOT TO HAVE TO HANDLE DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO DURING ALL THEIR WORK FOR GETTING THIS WHERE WE CAN COMPLETE THIS AUDIT TIMELY FOR YOU ALL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THIS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RUDGER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JOE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AFTERNOON MARY AND COUNSEL.

BEFORE I START, I DID WANT TO MENTION MY ACCOUNTING STAFF I KNOW SHE DID IT, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS.

THIS IS A LONG PROCESS THAT SHE SAID.

MICHELLE IS FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S A TEAM COLLABORATION.

IT'S IT'S A DAUNTING TASK.

LET ME SAY THAT, ALL THE NUMBERS, AND I GOT HERE IN THE DECEMBER TIME FRAME, SO THEY WERE ALREADY UP AND GOING WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

I REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE, AND THEY DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT.

>> ARE YOU SAYING THEY DID ALL THE WORK, JOE?

>> NO, SIR. I SAID THEY DID ALL THE WORK.

I'M HERE PRESENTING IT FOR YOU.

LET'S JUMP INTO GENERAL FUND.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

WHAT I WANTED EACH OF YOU TO SEE IS, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH FOR GENERAL FUND KEEPS INCREASING, BUT YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT AS YOUR CITY GROWS, SO DOES YOUR EXPENSES.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT FIVE-YEAR ANNUAL BOX IS AT THE TOP, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR REVENUES AVERAGE ABOUT 4.65-YEAR AVERAGE INCREASE AND ABOUT 4.8 IN EXPENSES.

BUT IF YOU CORRELATE THAT TO YOUR POPULATION IN INFLATION OF 4.7%, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH SPOT ON, SO YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THERE'S INCREASES IN GENERAL FUND AS YOUR POPULATION GROWS AND SO DOES THE INFLATION.

ANOTHER GOOD STAT IS THAT BOX RIGHT THERE ON THE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE PER CAPITA.

YOU CAN SEE THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE-YEAR, THAT HAS SLIGHTLY DECREASED.

FOR YOUR REVENUE, IT'S 0.4%.

FOR YOUR EXPENSES, IT'S 0.8%.

WHAT THAT REALLY IS TELLING YOU IS THAT YOUR OVERALL GENERAL FUND COST PER CITIZEN IS REALLY LOWER INSTEAD OF GOING UP.

EVERY PART THAT EACH CITIZEN PAYS FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S GOING DOWN.

AS YOU KNOW, SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAX ARE THE BIGGEST REVENUES IN YOUR GENERAL FUND.

OUR SALES TAX INCREASE IS ABOUT 2.3% YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE HAD 99.2 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR '23/'24.

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YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, THAT WENT UP ABOUT 11.3% FROM 76.3-84.9 MILLION.

AGAIN, WE NEED TO REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT DUE TO INCREASE IN TAXES.

THIS IS JUST THE NEW HOMES THAT HAVE COME ON THE ERCOT TAX ROW.

THERE'S NEW HOMES COMING ON THE TAX ROW, WE SEE THE BENEFIT OF THAT INCREASE IN OUR TAXES.

FRANCHISE FEES HAVE COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 9.9% FROM 31.7-28.6 MILLION.

THIS IS STRICTLY DRIVEN BY LESS HOMES BEING BUILT THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR.

THE OTHER ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS YOUR INTEREST RATE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT LOOKS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER 70.88%, BUT IT'S REALLY ONLY GONE UP FROM 3.9-6.7 MILLION.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE IN RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE SEEING BETTER RETURNS ON OUR INVESTMENT.

THE SAME THING WITH THE REVENUE PER CAPITA, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST BROKEN DOWN, THAT'S YOUR SALES TAX, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT'S THE REVENUE THAT EACH CITIZEN IS GENERATING ON THE GENERAL FUND.

>> LET ME STOP YOU JUST ONE SECOND.

I'LL JUST LET THE COUNSEL KNOW TOO AS YOU GO THROUGH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A NUMBER OF SLIDES.

IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR QUESTION ABOUT INFORMATION ON ONE SLIDE, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO RAISE THE QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SLIDE RATHER THAN TO FLIP BACK TO IT.

JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. THANK YOU.

>> SORRY. I SHOULD ADDRESS THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? WE'LL MOVE TO OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENSES, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE MAIN DRIVER OF GENERAL FUNDS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT POLICE AND FIRE HAVE INCREASED ABOUT 7.9% AND 6.8% RESPECTIVELY.

AGAIN, THESE TOTAL ABOUT 59% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENSES IS YOUR POLICE AND FIRE.

YOUR TRANSFERS, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'VE GONE DOWN TO YOUR FRANCHISE FEE TRANSFER.

PUBLIC WORKS HAS UP ABOUT 7.1%.

THAT'S JUST THE INCREASE IN YOUR PUBLIC WORKS, YOU INCREASE IN YOUR ROADS.

ON THE SAME MANNER WITH YOUR EXPENSE PER CAPITA FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

THIS IS A BREAKDOWN ON THE BOTTOM CHART THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH EACH OF THESE SERVICES COST PER CITIZEN REGISTER HERE IN THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

YOU CAN SEE POLICE WENT UP FROM ABOUT $310 A PERSON TO ABOUT $332 A PERSON.

AGAIN, THIS IS WITH AN INCREASE IN STAFF FOR POLICE AND AN INCREASE EXPENSES AS WELL.

YOU'LL SEE THAT TREND THROUGHOUT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT ON FIRE AS WELL.

IT WENT UP FROM ABOUT $251 TO ABOUT $266 A PERSON.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE ONES I REALLY WANTED TO HIT ON.

THOSE ARE YOUR BIGGEST EXPENSES IN YOUR GENERAL FUND AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE THING THAT WE REALLY DO LIKE TO DISCLOSE ON YOUR GENERAL FUND SIDE.

>> JOE, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT TRANSFERS ARE?

>> TRANSFERS, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY TRANSFERS OUT FROM THE CITY.

I LET MR. ATKINSON TAKE THAT ONE.

I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK ON THE TRANSFERS.

>> TRANSFERS CAN TAKE MANY FORMS. PROBABLY THE ONE THAT WE'RE ALL MOST FAMILIAR WITH WILL BE TRANSFERS TO CAPITAL.

YOU'RE MOVING DOLLARS OVER TO FUND, BE THAT VEHICLES, CERTAIN PROJECTS, STREET MAINTENANCE, ITEMS LIKE THAT.

TRANSFERS IN ARE GOING TO BE FEES THAT COME TO THE GENERAL FUND, MAINLY FROM YOUR OTHER FUNDS, WHICH WOULD BE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, SUCH AS LUBBOCK POWER AND LIGHT, WATER AND SEWER, ETC.

THAT'S HOW THEY PAY THEIR PIECE OF THE IT SYSTEM, THE RADIO SYSTEM, THE FLEET OPERATIONS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> IF EVERY OTHER THE CATEGORY INCREASED, WHAT WOULD BE THE ACCOUNTING FOR THE DECREASE IN THE TRANSFERS THEN?

>> THE GENERAL FLOW OF WHAT WE WERE DOING FOR MAINLY CAPITAL, MAINLY VEHICLES IN ANY PARTICULAR YEAR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MOVING ON, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE KEY METRICS.

I REALLY DO LIKE THIS CHART RIGHT HERE.

IT REALLY TELLS YOU WHAT THAT GREEN LINE IS TELLING YOU, IS OUR GENERAL RESERVE POLICY.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS HAVE 20% OF A GENERAL POLICY RESERVE.

YOU CAN SEE OVER THE PAST YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABOVE THAT 20%.

FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE ABOUT $94.4 MILLION IN RESERVES, WHICH IS ABOUT 33.7 OF OUR TARGET LEVEL.

AGAIN, 20% IS THE THRESHOLD THAT'S SET FOR CITIES TO KEEP YOUR GENERAL RESERVES, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 94 POINT MILLION, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT 33.7%.

WE'RE ABOVE THAT 20%, THAT THRESHOLD THAT'S SET FOR OUR GENERAL RESERVE CALCULATION.

>> MR. MAYOR, IF I MIGHT ADD A LITTLE COLOR TO THAT.

THIS IS ALL BASED ON YOUR ENCLOSE AT SEPTEMBER 30TH,

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AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE GREEN LINE AND THE TOP, THE ONE ON THE 24 NUMBERS, THE 33.7 AND THE GREEN LINE, THAT IS THAT UNASSIGNED RESERVE THAT WE ALL WORK ON AS WE GO THROUGH BUDGET.

IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE SPENT THAT DOWN.

WE WERE GOING TO END UP AT JUST A LITTLE OVER 10.

WE HAD SOME OF THOSE CHANGES FROM LUBBOCK POWER AND LIGHT.

IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THIS DATED 10/1, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THAT'S ABOUT A $12 MILLION NUMBER.

YOU STILL HAVE ALL THE 20% YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, AND THEN WE HAVE THAT ROUGHLY 12 THAT CARRIES US OVER AS WE GO THROUGH THIS YEAR AND START THE BUDGET.

>> THAT'S ALL THE STATS I HAVE FOR GENERAL FUND, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL MOVE OFF ONTO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

STARTING OFF WITH THE ENTERPRISE.

WE GOT YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AS YOU CAN TELL, THOSE FUNDS ARE VERY HEALTHY.

WE HAD ABOUT $85.9 MILLION IN REVENUES AND TRANSFERS COMING IN.

OUR EXPENSES WERE ABOUT 142.8 MILLION ON THE TRANSFERS.

YOU CAN SEE YEAR OVER YEAR, OUR REVENUES AND TRANSFERS IN ARE MORE THAN THE EXPENSES GOING OUT.

THAT'S A SIGN OF A HEALTHY FUND.

THIS IS A GOOD METRIC RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE COVER METRIC.

WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS FOR FISCAL YEAR '24, OUR DEBT SERVICE METRICS INCREASE FROM 1.29-1.56.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT AGAINST YOUR UNRESTRICTED LIABILITY. YOU HAVE THAT.

WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THAT WE DO HAVE 1.5 TIMES TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FUND.

YOUR DEBT TO CAPITALIZATION HAS DECREASED FROM 39.1%-36.9%.

THIS IS THE GOOD SIGN. THE LOWER THIS IS, THE BETTER IT IS.

THIS IS SAYING THAT YOU HAVE MORE ASSETS TO YOUR DEBT.

THIS IS CONTINUED TO INCREASE AS WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS OUT AND PUT THEM ON THE BOOKS, AND AS WE PAY OFF DEBT, THIS NUMBER CONTINUES TO GO DOWN AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT WENT DOWN FROM 39.1% LAST YEAR TO 36.9% IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

>> THE TOP GRAPH, WE WANT TO SEE GOING UP TO HIT THE ORANGE LINE AND THEN IDEALLY THE GREEN LINE?

>> YES, THE GREEN LINE.

>> YOU WANTED TO FALL BELOW THE GREEN LINE ON THE BOTTOM TO GET YOUR BEST BOND RATING.

>> YES, SIR. CORRECT.

>> I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED, SO YOUR ORANGE LINE THAT'S ACROSS IS YOUR AA RANGE THAT'S THE THRESHOLD THAT THEY SET FOR YOUR AA CREDIT RATING AGENCIES.

THEN THE GREEN ONE IS YOUR AAA RATING AGENCIES.

WE'RE A AA, SO WE TRY TO STAY WITHIN THAT ORANGE LINE ON OUR CALCULATIONS.

>> WHY DO WE WANT TO STAY THERE?

>> WE CAN GET BETTER RATES.

>> WE GET BETTER RATES.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR, MAYBE ONE COMMENT TO THE INFORMATION ON THE TOP, THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE. YOU'RE SPOT ON.

THAT'S HOW WELL WE CAN COVER THE DEBT WITH THE REVENUES.

THE GREEN LINE, THE AAA RANGE ON WATER AND WASTEWATER IS A 2.0 COVERAGE.

IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL POLICIES, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO ACHIEVE 2.0 COVERAGE.

IN MY OPINION, WE'RE TAKING MORE DOLLARS THAN WE NEED FROM OUR RE PAYERS TO HOLD MERELY TO HIT A METRIC.

I STRONGLY SUGGEST WE STAY IN THE AA RANGE ON THIS CATEGORY, AND WE CONTINUE MOVING.

WE'RE IN AAA ON THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, BUT YOU WILL NOT SEE US BRING YOU RATES AND OTHER BUDGETS THAT ARE GOING TO CAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE TO GET MUCH ABOVE OR IDEALLY MUCH BELOW THE AA LINE ON THE COVERAGE.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE ABSENT OTHER GUIDANCE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THAT MUCH MONEY AND JUST HOLD IT.

>> I THINK THAT'S COUNCIL DECISION.

I THINK AT LEAST TO THIS POINT, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW WE ARE DOING THAT HERE. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS YOUR AIRPORT FUND.

AGAIN, YOUR AIRPORT FUND IS VERY HEALTHY.

YOU'D SEE YOUR REVENUE AND TRANSFERS IN ARE ABOUT 27 MILLION COMPARED TO 25.5 MILLION.

IF YOU LOOK BACK 2022, THAT WAS THE TIME RIGHT AFTER COVID WHICH TRAVEL WAS LESS, BUT YOU'RE SEEING THAT THE TRAVELING IS GETTING BACK TO THE NUMBERS THAT WE SAW EVEN INCREASING.

THAT'S A GOOD SIGN THAT THE AIRPORT REVENUES AND EXPENSES HAVE REALLY COME BACK TO THEIR NORMS FROM 2022.

MOVING ON IS STORMWATER.

STORMWATER HAS DECREASED FROM 33.6 MILLION IN REVENUES TO 28.2.

AGAIN, THIS IS DIRECTLY REFLECTED OF IN 2022, WE REDUCED THE STORMWATER RATES.

WHEN YOU REDUCE THE RATES, YOU EXPECT TO SEE LESS REVENUE COMING IN FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND.

THAT 33.6-28.2 MILLION AND REVENUES IS DIRECT CORRELATION WITH A DECREASE IN RATES IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.

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>> JOE, WE REDUCED THOSE RATES WHY? YOU'RE GOING TO TURN TO JARRETT?

>> MR. HERNANDEZ WOULDN'T HEAR MAYOR [OVERLAPPING]

>> I KNOW YOU GUYS, I'VE ASKED YOU THESE QUESTIONS.

>> A QUICK BACKGROUND.

THE STORMWATER FUND, AND WE ALL KNOW WHY IT STARTED.

WE WERE DEALING WITH THE OVERFLOWS AND THE PLAY AND FLOODING BUSINESSES AND HOMES AND ALL THAT.

VERY SUCCESSFUL BUT VERY EXPENSIVE.

IN EFFECT, THE STORMWATER FUND WAS LARGELY A DEBT SERVICE FUND.

BIG PROJECTS, LOTS OF DOLLARS TO DO THEM, AND IT WAS CONSUMING THOSE REVENUES.

WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN PAYING DOWN THAT DEBT, WE CONTINUED TO DO SO.

WE KNEW COMING IN, WE HAD A CHANCE TO LOWER THOSE RATES, WHICH WE DID, ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR FUTURE GOAL FOR THE STORMWATER FUND, YES, THERE WILL STILL BE LARGE PROJECTS, NOT LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN EARLY 2000S, THERE'LL STILL BE BIG PROJECTS, BUT THEY'LL BE FEWER AND FARTHER BETWEEN.

RATHER WE NEED NOW TO MOVE THAT INTO A MAINTENANCE MODE AND TO DO SUCH WITH CASH.

THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE GAP BETWEEN THE EXPENSE AND THE REVENUE.

YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN LINES SLOWLY TICK UP AS WE'RE ABLE TO PICK UP ALL THAT SYSTEM MAINTENANCE WE NEED TO DO AND TO DO IT WITH LARGELY CASH.

THAT WAS THE PLAN THERE.

>> THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE OF THOSE AREAS IN WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE RATES.

>> CORRECT. THERE WILL BE A TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT YOU'LL GET TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> MOVING ON TO YOUR DEBT AND PENSION FUNDS.

THIS IS A CITY OF LUBBOCK DEBT PROFILE.

I KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF BUDGET AND YOUR ACT FOR.

TO DATE, AS OF FISCAL YEAR '24, OUR TOTAL PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST IS ABOUT $1.8 BILLION.

YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THIS BELONGS TO LUBBOCK POWER AND LIGHT FOR 741.1 MILLION.

WHAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO HARP ON IS THAT THAT WAS FOR THE BUILD OUT OF THE TRANSITION TO ERCOT.

REMEMBER, A LOT OF THE DEBT THAT'S WITH LUBBOCK POWER AND LIGHT IS T COST DEBT.

IT'S TRANSMISSION RELATED DEBT.

ACTUALLY, YOUR LOCAL CITIZENS DON'T PAY FOR THAT.

THE OTHER TD USING THE ELECTRIC MARKET ARE THE ONE PAYING FOR THE MAJORITY OF THAT DEBT.

WE CALL THAT THE TRANSMISSION COST OF SERVICE.

A LOT OF THAT BUILD OUT FOR THE ERCOT MARKET AND THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH LUBBOCK POWER AND LIGHT.

YOU'RE GETTING A RATE OF RETURN ON THAT VERSUS JUST COLLECTING THAT FROM YOUR CITIZENS HERE IN THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER FUND, AGAIN, THERE ARE 434.9 MILLION TODAY.

GENERAL FUND IS 369.8 MILLION AGAINST.

THE INCREASE ON THAT IS PRETTY MUCH STREETS.

THE DEVELOPMENT, THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, PREPARING TO ISSUE BONDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF STREETS HERE IN THE CITY OF LUBBOCK.

THOSE PIE CHARTS JUST GIVE YOU A BREAKDOWN.

YOUR USER FEE SUPPORTED DEBT IS 79.8, AND YOUR TAX SUPPORTED IS 20.2%.

AGAIN, REMEMBER, YOUR USER FEE SUPPORTED DEBT IS STRICTLY BASED ON REVENUES COLLECTED THROUGH THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BUILD A WATER PROJECT THAT IS RELATED TO WATER, YOU'LL COLLECT THOSE THROUGH THE WATER RATE FUND AND SO ON, FOR ALL THE UTILITIES AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT?

>> MOVING ON IS THE CITY OF LUBBOCK PENSIONS.

AGAIN, THIS IS YOUR TMRS RATE.

TRMS HOLDS THIS.

WE REALLY DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH THIS.

WE JUST GET THE REPORTS FROM THEM ANNUALLY ON THE TMRS. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS, YOUR ACTUAL NET RATE OF RETURN ON FISCAL YEAR 2025 HAS INCREASED FROM A -7.35 TO A +11.64.

WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS THE MARKET'S GETTING BACK, THEY'RE GETTING A BETTER RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE YEARS.

AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE RATE OF RETURN METRIC THAT USED FOR 2024 IS IN A ONE YEAR LAG.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE DECEMBER 31ST, 2023 RATE.

AS THE MARKETS ARE DOING GOOD, AND THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT IS GOOD RIGHT NOW, WE EXPECT TO SEE AN INCREASE OR A LEVEL RATE OF RETURN FOR NEXT YEAR, 2024.

WHEN WE GET THE 2025 NUMBERS, THOSE WILL HAVE THE 2024 RATE OF RETURNS FROM TMRS. THE SAME GOES WITH FIRE FIRES IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE REALLY REBOUNDING.

AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY DRIVEN BY THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT.

FOR THOSE YEARS WHERE YOU WERE LAGGING ON THAT, YOU'RE REALLY MAKING IT UP OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THEN THIS PAST YEAR THAT HAPPENED.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO MONITOR, SO WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND BRING YOU BACK WHERE WE'RE AT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THAT WAS THE LAST OF MY SLIDES UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

I GOT ME AND MY STAFF, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANYTHING.

AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM.

LIKE I SAID, I CAME IN LATE INTO THE GAME, SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT.

THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND I'M READY TO TAKE ON THE CHALLENGE.

>> IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THE COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, I THINK WE GOT A COPY OF IT THE OTHER DAY.

I'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO READ EVERY PAGE.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO PUTS THAT ALL TOGETHER.

IT'S AN AMAZING PIECE OF WORK.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK ON IT, BUT I THINK THE TAKEAWAY FROM ALL THIS IS OUR CITY IS IN VERY GOOD HANDS FINANCIALLY.

I THINK I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THEY LOOK AT THE DEBT, AND ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, $1.8 BILLION THAT NUMBER IS BANDIED AROUND A LOT IS A LARGE NUMBER.

BUT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS 7,141 MILLION OF THAT IS TO LP&L.

MOST CITIES IN TEXAS DON'T HAVE THAT DEBT. THEY DON'T CARRY.

THEY DON'T OWN OR DIDN'T OWN THEIR UTILITY OR THEIR TRANSMISSION LINE.

IF YOU COMPARE US AGAINST OTHER CITIES WHO DON'T HAVE THAT, WE'RE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE, AND EVEN THAT IS FEE BASED AND PAID FOR BY THE USERS ON IT.

I KNOW PEOPLE UNDERSTAND FEE AND TAX ARE JUST BOTH THREE LETTER WORDS.

ONE IS INTERCHANGEABLE BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF OUR STUFF HERE IS FEE BASED, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD WAY BECAUSE IT'S TRANSPARENT.

PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

WHEN YOU PAY A FEE, YOU KNOW VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE GETTING FOR THAT FEE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JOE. I APPRECIATE IT.

NOW WE'LL MOVE ON.

SURE.

>> THERE IS A VOTE.

>> THERE'S A RESOLUTION. NOW WE'VE HAD THE BRIEFING.

I NEED A MOTION ON ITEM 6.2.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO.

I HEAR NONE, SO WE ACCEPT THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT WITHOUT OBJECTION,

[3. Public Hearing - Planning (District 2): Consider a request for Zone Case 437-C, a request of Michael Session for Raymond and Gaynell Lemon, for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) Specific Use for a Manufactured Home Subdivision, at 2909 East Broadway, located west of David Avenue and north of East Broadway, Flake Addition, Block 7, Lot 8, and consider an ordinance.]

A CONSOLIDATED PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ZONING CASES FOR AGENDA ITEM 6.3 THROUGH 6.6.

OUR COUNCIL HAS ALREADY RECEIVED IN THEIR PACKET STAFF REPORTS FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THE COUNCIL MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT NO DISCUSSION ON THE MERITS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY THE COUNCIL DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW, I'M GOING TO CALL ON CHRISTIAN SAGER, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE AGENDA ITEM 6.3 THROUGH 6.6.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM 6.3 IS ZONE CASE 437-C.

THE APPLICANT IS MICHAEL SESSION FOR RAYMOND AND GAYNELL LEMON.

THE REQUEST IS A SPECIFIC USE FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME SUBDIVISION ON PROPERTY ZONED LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY SF-2.

WE SENT OUT 39 NOTIFICATIONS RECEIVING ONE IN FAVOR.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON EAST BROADWAY WEST OF GUAVA AVENUE.

HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE ONE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY IN FAVOR.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THERE ARE A FEW OTHER RESIDENCES IN THE AREA, BUT IT IS MOSTLY SURROUNDED BY VACANT LAND.

CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY SF-2.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY SF-2 AND THERE IS ADDITIONAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE WEST.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

PHOTOS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG EAST BROADWAY, WHICH IS THE COLLECTOR.

STAFF HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST, AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I SEE THAT. PROCEED.

>> ITEM 64 ZONE CASE 3516.

[4. Public Hearing - Planning (District 2): Consider a request for Zone Case 3516, a request of Hugo Reed and Associates, Inc. for Elliott Arroyo Seco, LTD., for a zone change from Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) to Heavy Commercial District (HC), at 2415 114th Street, located east of University and south of 114th Street, on 10 acres of unplatted land out of Block E, Section 15, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS HUGO REED AND ASSOCIATES, AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY SF-2 TO HEAVY COMMERCIAL HC.

WE SENT OUT 44 NOTIFICATIONS RECEIVING ONE IN OPPOSITION.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 114TH STREET IN UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

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HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE ONE PROPERTY IN OPPOSITION.

HIS MAIN CONCERN WAS THE ADDITIONAL USES ALLOWED WITHIN THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IS BORDERED TO THE EAST AND SOUTH BY THE COUNTY TO THE NORTH BY VACANT LAND, SOON TO BE DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL USES, AND A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.

CURRENT ZONING IS LOW DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY SF-2.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH WITH A MIX OF AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL, SF-2, AND MEDIAN DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

HERE'S A GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THE ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE AT THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS LOCATED ON ALONG UNIVERSITY AVENUE, WHICH IS THE PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL AND 114TH STREET, WHICH IS A MINOR ARTERIAL.

STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST, AND THE ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I'D BE PLEASE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE THAT. PROCEED.

>> ITEM 65 IS ZONE CASE 1794-K.

[5. Public Hearing - Planning (District 4): Consider a request for Zone Case 1794-K, a request of AMD Engineering, LLC for Community Christian Church, for a zone change from High Density Residential District (HDR) to Auto-Urban Commercial District (AC), at 3417 96th Street, located north of 98th Street and west of Indiana Avenue, on 1.16 acres out of Raintree Addition, Tract F-1, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS AMD ENGINEERING, LLC, REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM HYDE AND CITY RESIDENTIAL TO AUTO URBAN COMMERCIAL.

WE SENT OUT 54 NOTIFICATIONS, RECEIVING 11 IN OPPOSITION, ONE OF WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NORTH OF 98TH STREET WEST OF INDIANA AVENUE.

HERE'S THE RESPONSE MAP SHOWING THE 10 RESPONSES THAT ARE WITHIN THE 400 FOOT NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

MAIN CONCERNS WERE NOISE AND REDUCTION IN PROPERTY VALUE.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THERE ARE RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH, CHURCHES TO THE EAST AND WEST, AND VACANT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

CURRENT ZONING IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THERE'S ADDITIONAL HDR ZONING TO THE EAST AND WEST, MEDIUM DENSITY AND SF-2 TO THE NORTH, AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION IS FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

HERE'S A SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES IS APPROPRIATE WITH THE REQUEST.

THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

96 STREET IS DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL STREET, AND INDIANA AVENUE IS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL.

STAFF IS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.

THE PLAN AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF SEVEN TO ONE.

I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? PROCEED. MR. ROSE.

>> CAN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PLANS AGAIN, THAT.

IS THERE A MASONRY WALL ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING?

>> CORRECT.

>> THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, PRIVACY FENCING, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> WITH A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER YARD, YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

>> ITEM 6.6 ZONE CASE 2916-F.

[6. Public Hearing - Planning (District 5): Consider a request for Zone Case 2916-F, a request of SK Architecture Group, LLC, for a zone change from Industrial Park District (IP) to Neighborhood Commercial District (NC), at 8310 and 8314 Upland Avenue, located south of 82nd Street and west of Upland Avenue, Centerline Addition, Tracts B and C, and consider an ordinance.]

THE APPLICANT IS SK ARCHITECTURE GROUP LLC, REQUESTING TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM INDUSTRIAL PARK TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

WE SENT OUT 28 NOTIFICATIONS RECEIVING ONE IN FAVOR.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF 82ND WEST OF UPLAND AVENUE.

HERE'S THE ONE RESPONSE WE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.

HERE'S A NARROW VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS DEVELOPED WITH COMMERCIAL USES ALONG UPLAND AVENUE WITH RESIDENTIAL FURTHER EAST AND MORE COMMERCIAL FURTHER WEST.

CURRENT ZONING IS INDUSTRIAL PARK.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE NORTH SOUTH AND WEST, WITH OFFICE AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

HERE'S A SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE FUTURE LAND DESIGNATION IS FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL LAND USES AND WHILE THIS REQUEST IS FOR A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE, IT WOULD STILL BE APPROPRIATE ALONG UPLAND AVENUE.

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THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

UPLAND AVENUE IS DESIGNATED AS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL.

STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM MISS SAGER? I SEE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. NOW, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM 6.3 THROUGH 6.6.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THESE ITEMS, IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, NOW STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM.

IS ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THESE ITEMS TODAY?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M TERRY HOMAN WITH GO READ AND ASSOCIATES, 11601 AVENUE IN.

I'M REPRESENTING ITEM 6.4.

I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY. THERE WAS ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION ON MINE.

I REACHED OUT TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, INVITED HIM TO DISCUSS WITH ME AND I HAD NEVER HEARD BACK.

BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HOMAN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ONE OF THE ITEMS?

>> AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS WILL STEVENS WITH AMD ENGINEERING, SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 6.5.

WE DID REACH OUT OR ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT TO ALL 11 NEIGHBORS THAT SENT IN LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.

WE WERE UNABLE TO REACH EVERYBODY, BUT THOSE WE DID TALK TO, THEY SPURRED THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS SAW, SPECIFICALLY THE BUFFER YARD AND THE SEVEN FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE NORTH.

THE OTHER THING I'LL BRING UP ON THE SITE PLAN, AND I MAY BRING IT UP ON HERE IF I NEED TO.

WE WANTED TO PUT THAT SITE PLAN TOGETHER TO SHOW THE NEIGHBORS WHAT OUR PLAN WAS AND FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT WE AREN'T PUTTING A DRIVEWAY ON 96.

YOU WILL HAVE THE BUFFER YARD ALONG NORTH AND WEST AND THEN WE TRY TO SHIFT THAT COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAY AS FAR SOUTH AS WE COULD, KEEP TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU'VE GOT. THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THE ITEMS? ANYONE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ANY OF THE ITEMS? PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. GABRIEL SANCHEZ, SK ARCHITECTURE GROUP, 8355 UPLAND AVENUE FOR ITEM 6.6.

WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS TRACK OF LAND.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, THEY DON'T REALLY FIT THE ZONING, AND WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL WOMEN, AND COUNCIL MEN.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> PLEASE STEP A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU WILL. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

MY NAME IS BILLY STELZER.

I'M OPPOSED TO THE CAR WASH ON ITEM 6.5, PLANNING DISTRICT 4 FOR THE CAR WASH.

I BROUGHT A LETTER DOWN HERE LAST WEEK FOR EACH ONE OF YOU.

I HOPE YOU'VE RECEIVED THIS AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO READ IT.

THESE ARE MY FEELINGS ON THE CAR WASH ACROSS FROM THE DUPLEXES.

I OWN ONE OF THE DUPLEXES.

I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF MY FRIENDS THAT OWN THEIR DUPLEXES.

WE'RE ALL AGAINST IT.

THERE HAVE BEEN 11 LETTERS RESPONDING BACK TO YOUR COMMENTS OF THE FORMS THAT YOU SENT OUT FOR US TO OPPOSE OR ACCEPT AND 11 HAVE OPPOSED IT.

YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.

>> THIS TRACK OF LAND SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING ONLY.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACES ON 98 IN INDIANA AND OTHER PLACES THAT CAR WASHES CAN BE BUILT.

IF THIS ZONE CHANGE GOES, THIS WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR HOME VALUES.

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I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WHERE YOU LIVE, WHERE YOU RESIDE WITH YOUR FAMILIES.

WOULD YOU WANT A CAR WASH BUILT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDCHILDREN, BEING AT YOUR HOME? THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LOUD NOISE, A DRAIN OFF, AND DOES THE CITY NEED THAT MANY CAR WASHES? IF YOU WILL GO TO 92ND IN INDIANA.

[NOISE] THERE'S A CAR WASH THERE.

LET'S SEE. I THOUGHT I HAD THE NAME OF IT DOWN.

BUT THERE'S A CAR WASH IN A RESIDE BUSINESS ADDITION AT 83RD IN INDIANA.

IF YOU WILL GO OUT SOUTH, THERE IS ANOTHER CAR WASH AT 126 IN INDIANA.

THIS COMPANY IS WANTING TO PUT ONE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT AREA, TWO AND HALF MILE AREA.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT A CAR WASH.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED THERE.

THAT'S THEIR HOME.

THEY DON'T WANT A LOUD NOISY CAR WASH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM.

[NOISE] THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF EXTRA VEHICLES, A LOT OF EXTRA TRASH.

EVEN IF THEY PUT A BARRIER OR WALL UP, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HEAR THAT NOISE.

JUST STOP AND THINK.

GET A CUP OF COFFEE SOME MORNING ABOUT SEVEN OR 7:30 AND GO SIT BY A CAR WASH [NOISE] AND SEE HOW NOISY THAT IS.

THAT IS NOT A PLACE FOR A CAR WASH TO CHANGE THAT ZONE TO A BUSINESS ZONE.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TURNING THIS CAR WASH ZONING DOWN, REJECTING IT.

[NOISE] I KNOW THERE'S BEEN 11 RESIDENTS TO SEND IN THEIR LETTERS THAT THEY ARE OPPOSED TO THIS.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER US. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MARCUS HURD 340696.

MY FRONT DOOR WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED CAR WASH AND IT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR ME.

YESTERDAY, I SPENT SOME TIME.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY AND WENT BY SOME ADDITIONAL MIGHTY WASH CAR WASHES.

THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL IN ZONING THAT IS STRICTLY ALL COMMERCIAL, 114TH STREETS ACROSS HEB, 82ND AND MILWAUKEE IS ALL COMMERCIAL, WEST 19TH STREET, ALL COMMERCIAL, 50TH STREET ACROSS FROM [NOISE] MONTEREY ALL COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS ONLY ONE COMMERCIAL LOT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED LOT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE RESIDENCES IS ACROSS THE STREET ALSO.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE ZONING BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL LOT ADJACENT TO IT.

[NOISE] ON THE EAST SIDE OF INDIANA IS INDIANA AVENUE BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THEY HAVE A HUGE LOT OVER THERE.

THERE IS NO COMMERCIAL ZONING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSED CAR WASH. NO COMMERCIAL AT ALL.

THERE IS COMMERCIAL, AS YOU ALL KNOW ON 82ND STREET.

THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IS TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF 82ND STREET, SO IT'S ALBATROSS OUT THERE ALL BY ITSELF, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE AN INTRUSION INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE OTHER THING I LOOKED WHEN I WENT AROUND SOME OF THESE CAR WASHES, THERE'S BEEN A PROPOSED FOR A SEVEN FOOT FENCE WITH SOME NICE SHRUBBERY OR TREES TO THAT EFFECT.

I CHECKED UP ON MIGHTY WASH AND I WENT TO THEIR CAR WASH AT 80TH OR 81ST AND UNIVERSITY AND LOOKED AT WHAT THEY HAD DONE WITH THE LANDSCAPING.

[NOISE] I PARKED MY CAR

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ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CAR WASH ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, WHICH WOULD BE MY FRONT YARD AND WHEN I ROLLED DOWN MY WINDOWS, I COULD HEAR THE VACUUMS, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T JUST ONE VACUUM RUNNING.

THERE WAS SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE VACUUMS RUNNING BECAUSE IT WAS A BUSY DAY AND I COULD ACTUALLY HEAR THE VACUUMS RUNNING FROM ACROSS THE STREET.

ALSO, THEIR LANDSCAPE, THEY HAD LIKE EIGHT OR NINE TREES RUNNING FROM EAST TO WEST ON 80TH STREET, AND IT HAD NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

THERE WERE PATCHES OF DIRT WITH GRASS.

THEY'RE EITHER NOT WATERING IT OR IT'S NOT ALL GRASS, LIKE I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY PROPOSED TO BE.

I KNOW FROM THAT THE SEVEN FOOT FENCE ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE MAY LOOK NICE WHEN IT'S CONSTRUCTED, BUT I DON'T HAVE MUCH FAITH THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WAY.

THERE WAS ALSO ANOTHER CAR WASH AT 44 SOUTH LOOP 289 THAT FACES THE LOOP.

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS ZONED THAT WAY, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE LOOP, BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

THEIR GRASS LOOK FINE, BUT THEY HAVE AN UNUSUAL LOT SIZE WHERE IT COMES TO A T INTERSECTION, AND THEY HAVE STONE THERE, ROCK AND STONE, AND IT WAS ALL MIXED UP AND THERE WAS WEEDS GROWING UP IN IT.

I JUST AM LEERY ABOUT TO GET THE ZONING CHANGE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL FENCE AND BEAUTIFUL TREES AND BEAUTIFUL EVERYTHING.

THEN TWO AND THREE YEARS LATER WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT INVOLVED, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE ARE MY MAIN CONCERNS.

>> ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ANY OF THE ITEMS? I WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE ITEMS AT 3:21.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM AGENDAS 6.3, 36.6? IS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION. ANYONE WHO WISH TO DISCUSS ANY OF THESE ITEMS. I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

[NOISE] ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING AGENDA ITEMS 6.3 THROUGH 6.6.

PLEASE LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED SAY NAY?

>> NAY.

>> THAT MOTION PASSES I BELIEVE SIX TO ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I'LL TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM 6.7 A PUBLIC [NOISE] HEARING,

[7. Public Hearing - Planning (District 3): Consider a request for Zone Case 3174-D, a request of AMD Engineering, LLC for Texas District LCMS and Generator 1, LLC, for a zone change Low Density Single-Family District (SF-2) and Heavy Commercial District (HC) to High Density Residential District (HDR), at 2601, 2605, and 2615 19th Street, located west of University Avenue and south of 19th Street, on 1.56 acres out of Ellwood Place, Block 7, and consider an ordinance.]

CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING CHANGE.

WE WILL START THIS AGAIN WITH A PRESENTATION FOR MISS SAGER.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AND WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF DURING THIS MEETING, BUT NO DISCUSSION OF THE MERITS ARE HELD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF THIS.

MISS SAGER, AGAIN, WOULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH A BRIEF SUMMARY ON ITEM 6.7?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM 6.7 IN ONE CASE 3174-D.

THE APPLICANT IS AMD ENGINEERING, LLC.

REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY SF-2 AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL HC TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT HDR.

WE SENT OUT 61 NOTIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED 81 IN FAVOR, 72 OF WHICH ARE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY, 28 IN OPPOSITION, SIX OF WHICH ARE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF 19TH STREET WEST OF UNIVERSITY [NOISE] AVENUE.

HERE'S THE MAP SHOWING THE RESPONSES WE HAVE RECEIVED WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY.

SINCE THE WRITTEN OPPOSITION FROM PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE 200' NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY EXCEEDS 20% OF THE LAND AREA.

A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF SIX [NOISE] OUT OF SEVEN COUNCIL VOTES WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE CASE TO BE APPROVED.

BECAUSE I KNOW THE QUESTION WILL COME UP.

WE DID RECEIVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF STURBRIDGE SEATS TO THE EAST, WHICH IS WHY IT IS REFLECTED ON THE MAP.

HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THERE IS A HOTEL TO THE EAST.

THERE IS APARTMENTS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TO THE WEST, TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY TO THE NORTH AND RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

CURRENT ZONING IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND SF-2 SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST AND WEST, SF-2 TO THE NORTH, AND SF-2 AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH.

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HERE IS A ZOOMED INVERSION, SO YOU CAN SEE THE PORTION OF THE REQUEST THAT IS SF-2 ZONING.

IT IS THAT SOUTHERN PIECE ON LOTS THREE AND FOUR.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES, AND HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.

HERE'S THE GRAPHIC PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SHOWING THE BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST.

THIS IS JUST A HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE CURRENT HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL REQUESTED DISTRICT.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS FOR COMMERCIAL LAND USES.

WHILE THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE TO HDR IS NOT IN CONFORMANCE WITH [NOISE] THIS DESIGNATION, IT IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION, AS THE HDR DISTRICT DOES ALLOW FOR A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE.

THE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGES IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND WILL BE APPROPRIATE AT THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ADJACENT TO HDR ZONING TO THE EAST AND WEST, AND IT IS LOCATED ON 19TH STREET, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS A PRINCIPAL ARTERIAL.

[NOISE] STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF 7-1.

AGAIN, THE SUPER MAJORITY VOTE WILL BE REQUIRED.

I'D BE PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM MISS SAGER. ALL I SEE NO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6.1, AND 6.7.

PLEASE, IF YOU COME FORWARD, AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD NOW AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SO IS ANY ONE OF YOU WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, CORY DULIN AMD ENGINEERING, WE'RE AT 65 THAT IS IN 68TH STREET.

WE'RE REPRESENTING PINECREST DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES ON THIS PROJECT.

BEFORE I INTRODUCE TYLER PERLMUTTER, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF PINECREST.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A FEW POINTS, SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THINGS THAT CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING HEARING.

I WANT TO JUST FIRST OF ALL POINT OUT, THIS IS A ZONE CASE FOR WHETHER OR NOT THIS REQUESTED ZONE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION.

[NOISE] THIS LOCATION FRONTS 10 LANES OF ARTERIAL.

WE HAVE A HIGH CAPACITY WATER LINE WE CAN TIE IN TO.

THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT.

ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS TO THE SOUTH OF US.

THIS IS THE SECOND CASE THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF IN THIS LOCATION.

I'VE SEEN OTHERS AS WELL.

THIS IS A GREAT FIT AND THIS DEVELOPER HAS LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBORS AND LEARNED FROM THE PREVIOUS CASES THAT HAVE FAILED AND PRESENTED SOMETHING THAT REALLY SEPARATES THIS PROPERTY AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR ANY STRUCTURES FACING 20TH STREET, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS CASES. THEY'LL BE BENEFICIAL.

THERE'S NO PLANNED TRAFFIC DOWN THE ALLEY, THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN THAT WE HEARD TRAFFIC DOWN THE ALLEY.

I MET WITH A DEVELOPER AND PROPOSED CONTRACTOR IN THE FIELD YESTERDAY FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND WE JUST LOOKED AT THE OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN.

A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED WITH THIS PROPERTY ARE GOING TO ENHANCE THINGS FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN OUTSTANDING PROJECT.

BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING UP SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HEARD AND TRY AND ANSWER THOSE THINGS AHEAD OF TIME.

THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT AND A GREAT DEVELOPER AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'LL BE SITTING OVER THERE AND AVAILABLE.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TYLER PERLMUTTER WITH PINECREST.

>> THANKS SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS TYLER PERLMUTTER.

I'M WITH PINECREST, 430 PARK AVENUE IN HIGHLAND PARK, ILLINOIS.

JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND REALLY WANT TO THANK TECH TERRACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHO'S BEEN GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME.

WE HAVE BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE IN THE PROCESS.

[NOISE]

>> A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.

WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1998, AND WE FOCUSED ON STUDENT HOUSING RIGHT NOW AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

WE'VE ALSO DONE HIGH-END RETAIL CENTERS AND OFFICE.

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BUT WE ARE A FAMILY COMPANY, AND PINECREST ITSELF HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2012.

SOME OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS INCLUDE METROPOLITAN FAMILY SERVICES, WHICH IS A GROUP OF CHICAGO, CAMP OUT FOR KIDS, EXPERIENCE CAMPS, THE NATIONAL SCLERODERMA FOUDATION, AND KIDS KICKING CANCER.

OUR MOTTO IS WE CREATE COMMUNITIES THAT KEEP RESIDENTS IN SCHOOL.

THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE DESIGN DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN OUR PROJECT, THE NUMBER 1 GOAL IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS IN SCHOOL? HERE'S OUR ORGANIZATION CHART, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.

TYNER CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, A LOCAL CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN INVOLVED ON THE UPFRONT OF THE PROJECT.

YOU ALL JUST HEARD FROM CORY AT AMD, WHO IS ALSO LOCAL AND INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT.

THEN LESSARD DESIGN, YOU WILL HEAR FROM JOSEPH SHORTLY.

WHILE HE IS NOT LOCAL, HE DOES HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN STUDENT HOUSING.

A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR COMPANY.

TO DATE, WE'VE DEVELOPED 2,343 BEDS.

WE HAVE A 605-BED PROJECT THAT WE'RE STARTING NEXT WEEK IN COLLEGE STATION, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE NEXT PROJECT IN OUR PIPELINE.

AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS OUR DEVELOPMENT AT COLLEGE STATION.

IT'S 605 BEDS STARTING NEXT WEEK, AND IT'LL DELIVER IN 2027.

THIS IS A PROJECT IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA THAT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING 509 BEDS OPENED LAST YEAR, AND WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR OF LEASE.

THIS PROJECT AT UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE, 382 BEDS.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE DID AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH.

IT WAS 473 BEDS.

ANOTHER ONE WE DID AT UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE, WHICH WAS 440 BEDS.

THEN FINALLY, ONE WE DID IN BOISE, IDAHO, WHICH WAS 539 BEDS.

THE REASON I BRING THEM UP IS THAT EACH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE LOCATION THAT THEY'RE IN.

WE DON'T HAVE ONE SET OF BUILDING DESIGN THAT WE USE.

WE REALLY SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE RIGHT LOCATION.

GETTING INTO THE PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO COVER ZONING ANALYSIS, A DESIGN APPROACH, THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO PARKING, OVERALL PROJECT FEATURES, AND THEN FINALLY BENEFITS FOR LUBBOCK.

STARTING WITH THE ZONING REQUEST, AS MENTIONED, IT IS HEAVY COMMERCIAL TO HDR.

THERE'S ALSO A SMALL PORTION THAT'S SF2 THAT WOULD ALSO BE REZONED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IF SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THIS ZONE CHANGE, WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR NO VARIANCE TO THE UDC.

THE FUTURE USE IS A MULTIFAMILY VERTICAL MIXED USE PROJECT.

IT'S A BLEND BETWEEN FIVE AND FOUR STORIES.

AT ITS MAXIMUM HEIGHT, IT'S 65 FEET.

YOU CAN GO UP TO 75, BUT WE'RE CAPPING IT AT 65.

THE BED COUNT WILL BE 584 ACROSS 216 UNITS.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 315 PARKING SPACES ON SITE, AND THEN A RETAIL COMPONENT AS WELL.

HERE'S THE ZONING MAP.

AGAIN, THE PIECE HERE TO FOCUS ON IS THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

THEN YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, BUT AS I'VE SAID, THERE'S A VERY SMALL PIECE THAT'S SF2, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE REZONED TO HDR.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S HDR ON BOTH SIDES, AND THEN WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO REZONE THE PARCEL ON THE SOUTH ON 20TH STREET, THAT IS A SURFACE PARKING LOT, AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP IT A SURFACE PARKING LOT, BUT REVITALIZE IT.

JUST QUICKLY, I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CURRENT USES THAT YOU COULD BUILD ON THE PROJECT.

YOU COULD HAVE A CAR WASH, YOU COULD HAVE A CEMETERY.

YOU COULD HAVE SMOKE SHOPS OR TOBACCO STORE, YOU COULD HAVE RESOURCE EXTRACTION, NIGHT CLUBS, HELIPAD, VEHICLE CHARGING.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT WE VIEW THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE, WHEREAS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE.

GETTING INTO THE HEIGHT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S VARIOUS COMPARABLES HERE.

THE ONE I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS PARALLEL TEXAS TECH, SO THEY'RE GOING AT 75 FEET, OURS WILL BE 65 FEET.

AGAIN, WE FEEL THAT WITH ALL THESE COMPS IN THE AREA, THE HEIGHT IS APPROPRIATE.

HERE'S JUST A MAP OF THE COMPS THAT MATCH UP THERE WITH THE PRECEDING PAGE.

THEN GETTING INTO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PLAN.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT HERE, AND I MENTIONED IT, IS HOW YOU ACCESS THIS BUILDING AND THE USE OF THE SURFACE PARKING LOT.

LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS.

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN REALLY SEE, BUT YOU'LL ACCESS THE BUILDING ON 19TH STREET HEADING EAST.

YOU'LL COME THROUGH THE BUILDING.

THERE'LL BE A ROLLER GATE HERE AND A ROLLER GATE HERE.

IF YOU HAVE A PARKING PERMITS TO PARK IN HERE, THE ONLY WAY TO ENTER THIS LOT RIGHT HERE WILL BE COMING THROUGH THE PARKING GARAGE, THAT WILL HIT A GATE AND IT WILL ROLL UP BOTH GATES AT THE SAME TIME.

WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT AVOIDS ANYONE GOING THROUGH THE ALLEY ACCESSING IT.

NOW, IF YOU'RE LEAVING AND YOU'RE IN THE SURFACE PARKING LOT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SIGNAGE AND CAMERAS, AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND RESIDENTS IF THEY DO GO DOWN THE ALLEY.

DURING THE ORIENTATION PROCESS OF MOVING, WE CAN REALLY EDUCATE THEM ON NOT USING THAT ALLEY.

THIS IS A TYPICAL FLOOR.

THE RETAIL COMPONENT IS IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER.

WE INTEND TO HAVE SOME AMENITY LEASING OFFICE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

THEN THERE'S TWO-GROUND FLOOR COURTYARDS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE PLANNING TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS AND LIKE A HANGOUT ZEN AREA.

MOVING ON, THIS IS A TYPICAL FLOOR THAT IS NOT A TOP FLOOR UNIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS LAID OUT.

WE DO HAVE THREE ELEVATORS PLANNED IN THE BUILDING.

THEN YOU GET TO THE TOP FLOOR.

WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE FIFTH FLOOR IS THE BUILDING DOES NOT GO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THE BUILDING WILL ONLY GO UP TO FOUR STORIES, AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A SETBACK.

THIS CREATES A TERRACE, BUT WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT IF YOU DON'T BLOCK IT, YOU'LL BE LOOKING DOWN INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARDS.

OUR INTENTION, AND WE WILL, IS TO BUILD A LANDSCAPING SCREEN THAT COMPLETELY BLOCKS THAT.

IT ALSO HELPS CREATE LESS OF A TIGHT FEELING IN THAT ALLEY BY HAVING THE BUILDING SET BACK THERE.

THEN THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION HERE IS THE POOL.

ORIGINALLY, WE HAD THE POOL GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT AFTER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A CONCERN.

SO WE'VE REDUCED THE SIZE OF THE POOL, ALSO BRINGING IT BACK.

IT WILL BE SCREENED, SO THERE WILL BE NO SIGHT LINES FROM THERE INTO 20TH STREET, AND THAT ALSO ALLOWED US TO INCREASE OUR PARKING COUNT.

THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AGAIN, MAJOR DIFFERENCES, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD ANY STRUCTURES ON 20TH STREET, AND THEN OUR PARKING GARAGE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A STRAIGHT SHOT INTO THE SURFACE LOT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ON 20TH STREET TO GET INTO THAT LOT.

AGAIN, I JUST WENT THROUGH THE FIRST MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND THE LAST ONE.

THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCE OF THE UDC, WHICH THEY DID.

FINALLY, JUST VERY OPEN COMMUNICATION, AND WE TRULY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO USE THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM TECHS TO GEL THIS PROJECT INTO WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

QUICK. COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE.

THE TOP PHOTO IS A RENDERING AS IF YOU WERE STANDING ON 19TH STREET, LOOKING SOUTH.

THEN THE BOTTOM ONE IS ALSO AS IF YOU WERE ON 19TH STREET.

IT'S THE I GUESS IT'S THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE RETAIL WILL GO.

JUST WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS ON THE TOP IMAGE.

IF YOU CAN SEE, YOU SEE MY MOUSE, YET.

THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF A PERSON WAS STANDING HERE AND LOOKING OUT, AND YOU CAN TELL BY THEIR SIGHTLINE, AS WELL AS THE GREEN WALL THAT THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO SEE INTO THE NEIGHBORS, LOTS BEHIND THEM.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE AS WELL.

THIS WILL BE THE OUTDOOR AMENITY, LITTLE DECK ON TOP OF THE FOURTH FLOOR.

THEN THE BOTTOM ONE AGAIN IS JUST A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

BUT THE WHOLE INTENTION HERE IS THAT YOU'RE BLOCKING SIGHTLINES.

I'M GOING TO CALL UP OUR ARCHITECT TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN APPROACH.

THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE UNDERTAKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT FITS IN LINE WITH TECH TERRACE AND TEXAS TECH. I'LL PASS O JOSEPH.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS OF LUBBOCK, TEXAS.

MY NAME IS JOSEPH AHMADI, PRINCIPAL AT LESSARD DESIGN, 8521 LEESBURG PIKE, VIENNA VA.

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THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

AS TYLER JUST MENTIONED, DESIGNING THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PROCESS.

NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE SITE HAVE PROVIDED VERY GREAT FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE SHARING TODAY HAS BEEN BASICALLY THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM NEIGHBORS, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LOT OF GUIDANCE OF HOW WE SHOULD SEE THIS PROJECT.

NOW, TEXAS TECH IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIVE MOST BEAUTIFUL CAMPUSES IN US.

DESIGNING A BUILDING THAT OVERLOOKS TEXAS TECH IS A VERY BIG CHALLENGE.

AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS LOCATED ON 19TH STREET, WHICH IN ITSELF, THE GODDARD BUILDING WITHIN OUR SITE, WHICH IT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL MANSIONS, WHICH ARE ALONG THE 19TH STREET.

WE HAD TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN APPROACH AND A DESIGN PROCESS, WHICH TAKES ALL THAT INTO THINKING AND THE PROCESS, AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THESE BUILDING TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH A DESIGN GUIDELINE THAT TAKES INTO EFFECT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE THAT CAN BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE EXISTING CULTURE, TO THE EXISTING HERITAGE OF ARCHITECTURE.

THEREFORE, WE LOOKED AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING OF TEXAS TECH FROM 1923, GODDARD BUILDING WITHIN OUR SITE FROM 1920.

YOU HAVE THE MANSIONS FROM 1929, THE ARCHITECTURE DEPARTMENT BUILDING FROM 1970.

ALL THESE BUILDINGS WILL SHARE A SIGNIFICANT PROPORTIONS WITHIN THEMSELVES THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR BUILDING NEEDS TO BE FOR FUTURE.

LOOKING AT THOSE BUILDING, FIVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES COME INTO PLACE.

YOU HAVE PROPORTION AND HARMONY.

YOU HAVE THE TRIPLITE DESIGN, WHICH DIVIDES THE BUILDING TO THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

WE HAVE THE COVERED WALKWAYS, WHICH BASICALLY BLOCKS THE SUN AND PROVIDES A PATHWAY FOR PEDESTRIAN TO MOVE AROUND THE SITE.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE THE ARC WINDOWS, AND AT THE MOST, WE HAVE MATERIALS AND BASICALLY THE COLOR PALETTE AND THE COLOR TONE, WHICH IS USED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SECOND SLIDE ONLY CALLS OUT THE BUILDINGS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

WE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING FROM CLOSE UP AND TRIED TO IDENTIFY WHAT THESE BUILDINGS HAVE IN COMMON AND HOW WE CAN ATTRACT PRINCIPLES FROM THESE BUILDING TO USE WITHIN OUR DESIGN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED IN 1923, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THE DATE OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THOSE DATES.

IT WAS DESIGNED IN A VERY SYMMETRICAL PATTERN, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.

I HAS A VERY GOOD ENTRY POINT OR FOCAL POINT THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF ARRIVAL.

IT HAS ENDED WITH THE TWO TO THE TWO BELL TOWERS AT THE FAR END, WHICH BASICALLY CONNECTS THE BUILDING TO THE GROUND.

AS YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING, YOU GET A FEELING THAT THIS BUILDING IS HERE TO STAY AND IS NOT MOVING.

THAT TRANSLATE INTO HOW WE SHOULD DESIGN THIS BUILDING.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGERY ON THE BOTTOM LIGHT, RIGHT CORNER THAT WE HAVE BASICALLY TAKEN THAT PRINCIPLE AND ASSIGNED IT TO OUR BUILDING AS HOW WE CAN USE THAT PRINCIPLE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE THE TRIPLITE DESIGN PRINCIPLE.

THIS DESIGN PRINCIPLE IS NOW IN TODAY'S ROLE USE IN BASICALLY POSTMODERN ARCHITECTURE.

THOSE OF US WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH URBAN DESIGN.

WE KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PRINCIPLES WITH AN URBAN DESIGN TO DIVIDE THE BUILDING INTO THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

YOU HAVE THE BASE BUILDING, YOU HAVE THE MAIN AT THE TOP.

THE BASE IS WHERE ME AND YOU WALK, AND I SEE THE BUILDING ALL THE TIME.

THE MAIN BUILDING WILL BE VISIBLE FROM A LITTLE FAR AWAY, AND THE TOP WILL COME INTO EFFECT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE DISTANCE.

THEREFORE, YOU NEED TO HAVE MORE ATTENTION ON THE BASE, MORE DETAIL.

AS YOU GO TO THE TOP, THOSE DETAILS WILL COME DOWN.

AS YOU GO TO AS YOU GO TO THE BASIC AND MAIN PART, YOU ELIMINATE THOSE DETAILS, AND AT THE TOP, YOU GO BACK TO THOSE DETAIL AND TRY TO DEFINE IT.

YOUR BUILDING HAS A LINE THAT DEFINES IT TO THE SKY.

AS YOU SEE THE BUILDING, YOU CAN DEFINE THE BUILDING PARAMETERS VERY CLEARLY.

THEN MOVING BACK, THIS IS THE BASICALLY TEXAS TECH, WE ARE LOOKING AT TEXAS TECH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE LOCATED IN THE 19TH STREET.

ON 19TH STREET, THE ARCHITECTURE SURROUNDING US ARE ON A SMALLER SCALE AND A DIFFERENT OCCUPANCY TYPE.

YOU HAVE THE MANSIONS BUILDING, WHICH IS NOW EXISTING THERE, SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PRINCIPLE WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE AS WELL AND HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT WITHIN OUR DESIGN SO IT BE COMPLEMENTARY WITHIN THE WHOLE SCREEN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MODEL ON THE MIDDLE PORTION BOTTOM RIGHT IS WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER, WHICH RESEMBLES THE BUILDING AND COMES TO EFFECT THAT WE HAVE ARCADES AND WE HAVE DOOR MORES, AND WE TRY TO USE THE SAME PRINCIPLE IN OUR DESIGN ON THAT MIDDLE PIECE, WHICH IS OUR FOCAL PIECE, WHICH CREATES THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL.

THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THE BUILDING,

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THE ARCHITECTURE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE TEXAS.

THE TECH, IT GOES BACK TO 1970, I THINK, AND THEY DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB DESIGNING THIS BUILDING.

IT IS VERY SIMPLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS VERY COMPLIMENTARY TO THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.

THE TWO TOWERS WE HAVE AT THE END OF THE BUILDING NOT ONLY RESEMBLES THE BUILT TOWER FROM AN EXPRESSWAY BUILDING, BUT ALSO IT RESEMBLES THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE ARCHITECTURE DEPARTMENT BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THIS BUILDING ALTOGETHER WITHIN ONE FACADE.

>> AT THE LAST WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ARCADES AND BASICALLY CREATING THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE WITHIN THE GROUND.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE SUN OUTSIDE, YOU CAN BASICALLY WALK AROUND AND HAVE THE SAME FEELING, AND THE SAME DESIGN TO SOME DEGREE CAME TO OUR BASIC CONCEPT.

NOW, THESE CONCEPTS HAVE CHANGED THE WAY THEY LOOK AND THEY ARE MORE MODERN TO TODAY'S ARCHITECTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO COPY-PASTE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAD BEFORE.

WE WANTED TO USE THE SAME PRINCIPLES, AND ULTIMATELY THE OUTCOME WILL GIVE YOU ARCHITECTURE THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZED IN FUTURE AND HOPEFULLY, THE GENERATION AFTERWARDS WILL COME AND DEFEND IT AS NEIGHBORS ARE DOING TODAY FOR THE ARCHITECTURE THAT EXISTS.

YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE HOW THE PROCESS HAS MOVED FROM THE TOP ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM AND HOW WE HAVE CAME UP WITH THE TWO-DAY CONCEPT OF DIVIDING THE BUILDING INTO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.

THE BUILDING IS A LINEAR BUILDING, HAS A SCALE TO IT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SCALE IS DIVIDED UP INTO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.

AS YOU ARE WALKING ALONG THE 19TH STREET OR DRIVING, YOU ARE EXPERIENCING DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUILDING ON DIFFERENT VIEWS AS YOU ARE TAKING PICTURES.

EACH VIEW WILL GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE TONE AND THE CHARACTER WILL BE COMPLIMENTARY TO TODAY'S ARCHITECTURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WILL RESPECT WHAT IS THERE TODAY.

I WILL TURN IT TO [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WILL QUICKLY JUST GO THROUGH THE SITE ACCESSIBILITY.

AS I MENTIONED, A BIG PART OF THIS IS THAT THE 19TH STREET ENTRANCE, SO YOU WILL ONLY ENTER FROM 19TH STREET, NO PUBLIC ENTRY OR EXIT ON 20TH STREET.

THEN I DO HAVE A PHOTO A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT THE CURRENT PARKING LOT, IT'S UNSIGHTLY.

WE'RE GOING TO REVITALIZE IT WITH FENCING AND VEGETATION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEY ACCESS, AND THEN JUST REAL QUICK, I WANTED TO MENTION FOR TRAFFIC.

THERE IS ROUTES 5 AND 49, WHICH ARE TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROJECT.

THEN WE ALSO INTEND TO REALLY PUSH RIDESHARE AND FOOD DELIVERY BY HAVING A DESIGNATED AREA ON THE PROPERTY FOR THAT.

THIS IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY MAP, AND REALLY WHAT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SHOW HERE IS THE GREEN, I GUESS IT'S MORE OF LIKE TURQUOISE.

THE OUTER CIRCLE, THAT'S ABOUT A 10-MINUTE WALK AND A FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE, WHEREAS THE GREEN CIRCLE IS A FIVE-MINUTE WALK AND A TWO-MINUTE DRIVE.

WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS YOU CAN WALK EITHER EAST OR WEST.

IF YOU WALK WEST, YOU'LL ENTER THE UNIVERSITY AT BOSTON AVENUE.

IF YOU WALK EAST, YOU WILL ENTER ON UNIVERSITY.

THEN ALSO REGARDING DRIVING IN ORDER TO GET ON UNIVERSITY, YOU WILL TAKE IT RIGHT ON 19TH AND THEN HEAD NORTH.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO GO WEST, YOU'LL HAVE TO LOOP BACK AROUND, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU CAN MAKE A U-TURN THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED.

I MENTIONED ROUTE 5 AND 49 RIGHT BY OUR SITE.

THEN HERE'S JUST SOME MORE CONCEPTUAL VIEWS.

THIS IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE BUILDING.

I THINK AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW HERE IS THAT IT REALLY FITS IN WITH THE DESIGN AND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESPECT THE VIEWS AND KEEP THE POOL BACK.

HERE'S THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

WHAT I POINT OUT HERE IS THIS TERRACE ON LEVEL 5, AND THEN THE VEGETATION IN FRONT OF IT BLOCKING IT.

BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER OUTDOOR AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THIS IS A PERSPECTIVE ON 19TH STREET.

THEN ANOTHER ONE, BUT JUST A DIFFERENT ANGLE. THEN ONE MORE.

THEN FINALLY, ONE MORE, WHICH THIS IS THE CAFE.

THEN THE LAST ONE I JUST WANT TO SHOW IS 19TH STREET EXISTING AND THEN 20TH STREET EXISTING.

ON THE BOTTOM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S THE CURRENT PARKING LOT.

THEN IN FRONT IS ESSENTIALLY THE VEGETATION AND THE WALL THAT WE INTEND TO PUT UP THERE AND JUST MAKE IT LOOK A LOT BETTER.

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WE'VE GONE OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT.

JOSEPH SPOKE ABOUT THIS, BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO TIE IN PANELING AND BRICK AND DIFFERENT SIDING THAT WE SEE ON CAMPUS AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE GOAL HERE.

FOCUSING ON PARKING.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE.

OUR CURRENT GARAGE HAS 315 SPACES PLANNED.

THE UDC REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PROJECT IS 108 SPACES, AND THAT'S BASED ON 216 UNITS AT A RATIO OF HALF A SPACE PER UNIT.

CURRENTLY AS PROVIDED, WE ARE PROVIDING SURPLUS OF 207 SPACES, AND THEN OUR RATIO TO UNITS IS THREE TIMES THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT.

WHAT WE DID, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THERE'S ONE TYPO ON THIS SLIDE, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK A SURVEY OF THE OTHER STUDENT HOUSING PROPERTIES IN THE MARKET.

WE DID IT ON A UNIT BASIS AND ON A PER-BED BASIS.

THE ONE ERROR ON HERE IS CARLTON HOUSE HAS 425 SPACES, NOT 400.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CHANGES THE AVAILABLE PARKING TO UNIT RATIO TO 2.0 FOR CARLTON HOUSE.

WHAT THAT DOES IS IT THEN CHANGES THE AVAILABLE PARKING TO UNIT RATIO TO 2.4 COMPARED TO 1.5.

WE THEN TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER AND SAID, LET'S ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING LEASED, SO WE DON'T OVERBUILD PARKING HERE.

WHAT WE FOUND IS ONLY WITH THE CHANGE IN CARLTON HOUSE, THAT NUMBER CHANGES TO 1.7, AND THE AVERAGE CHANGES TO 1.2.

IF YOU LOOK AT THESE PROPERTIES AT A PARKING-TO-UNIT RATIO, WE'RE PROVIDING 1.5, AND THESE COMPS ARE PARKING AT 1.2, SO WE'RE ABOVE THAT.

WE ALSO DID IT ON A PER-BED BASIS.

THIS DID NOT CHANGE THE NUMBERS.

THE 425, IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE RATIOS AT ALL.

BUT AGAIN, THE AVAILABLE PARKING TO BEDS RATIO FOR THESE COMPS IS 0.9 SPACES PER BED, AND WE'RE PROVIDING 0.5.

THE LEASE PARKING TO BEDS RATIO IS 0.5.

WE'RE RIGHT ON LINE WITH WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING LEASED.

THEN FINALLY, IT'S RELEVANT.

HOWEVER, EVERY MARKET IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT WE DID LOOK AT OUR PORTFOLIO AND OUR PARKING-TO-UNITS RATIO.

OUR AVERAGE IS 1.4 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT, AND IN THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 1.5.

WE'RE ABOVE OUR AVERAGE.

THEN QUICKLY GOING THROUGH OUR OVERALL PROJECT FEATURES, VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF ALL OF OUR PROJECTS IS SECURITY.

WE INTEND TO HAVE A PROFESSIONALLY MANAGED, IT'S FULL-TIME.

THEN AT NIGHT, WE HAVE OVERNIGHT SECURITY GUARDS.

THAT'S COMMON IN THIS MARKET. WE INTEND TO DO THAT.

WE'LL HAVE OVER 200 SECURITY CAMERAS ON SITE.

EVERYTHING IS KEY FOB ACCESS.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE AT NIGHT IN THE OUTDOOR SPACES.

THE WAY THAT WE CONTROL THAT IS WE LOCK OUR DOORS TO THE OUTSIDE.

YOU CAN'T GET OUT TO THOSE AMENITIES AFTER 9:00 PM DURING THE WEEK WEEKDAYS AND IN 10:00 PM ON THE WEEKENDS. WE HAVE A CAMERA.

WE CAN FIND ANYONE WHO'S OUT THERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE SECURITY.

WE CAN BE ALL OVER THAT.

WE ALSO DO NOT ALLOW THE CONSUMPTION OF ANY ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN PUBLIC AREAS IN OUR FACILITIES, SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY DRINKING ALLOWED ON THE DECK, AND THE GOAL IS THERE TO NOT MAKE IT A BIG PARTY DECK.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT.

FOCUSING ON TRASH, ALL DUMPS ARE SERVING THE PROJECT WILL BE INTERNAL.

WE DO HAVE TRASH CHUTES AND RECYCLING CHUTES ON EACH RESIDENTIAL FLOOR.

THEN IT'LL BE HANDLED BY A PRIVATE PROVIDER.

POOL DESIGN, AS I'VE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, REALLY SMALL ZEN FEEL NOT TRYING TO HAVE VIEWS INTO 20TH STREET.

THEN WE CAN HANDLE THE HOURS.

THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE LAST PROJECT WE DID IN RICHMOND TO GET A FEEL FOR THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING.

THE LAST PIECE IS BENEFITS FOR LUBBOCK.

FOR TECH TERRACE, WE TRULY FEEL THAT WE'VE BEEN A COMMITTED DEVELOPER WHO'S OPENING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL TODAY, THAT IS NOT THE END OF OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

WE INTEND TO WORK WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEN BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR WHEN WE'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A MEMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

FOR TEXAS TECH, THE ADDITION OF CLASS A STUDENT HOUSING WALKABLE TO CAMPUS IS GREAT FOR THE UNIVERSITY.

WE DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND WE'RE SEEING THAT A LOT OF

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UNIVERSITIES ARE STARTING TO GET REALLY NICE NEW STUDENT HOUSING, AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THAT HAS FALLEN BEHIND.

AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT FOR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY IF OUR PROGRAM IS FULLY FOCUSED ON HOW WE CAN KEEP THEM IN SCHOOL.

THEN FIRE AND SEWER UPGRADES, SO ALL UTILITIES OR ALL UPGRADES WILL BE OUR COST.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY HELP WITH THAT.

THEN WE INTEND FOR WIDENING AND REPAVING, RESULTING IN A BETTER-IMPROVED ALLEY BETWEEN 19TH AND 20TH STREET.

FINALLY, THE RESULT IS A BUILDING THAT BLENDS TRADITION AND INNOVATION, HONORING ITS SURROUNDING CULTURE AND HERITAGE, AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. PEARL BUTTON.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT TODAY? IF YOU ARE, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.

>> MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME UP HERE.

MY NAME IS GEORGE HARDBERGER.

I LIVE AT 16:02, TEXAS AVENUE, AND [NOISE] I'M PART OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS HIS PROPERTY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE OR TWO QUICK THINGS.

I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT CORY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS DEVELOPER.

HE'S A COLLABORATIVE GUY.

HE'S REALLY WORKED HARD TO TRY TO MAKE THIS FIT THE BEST HE CAN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK YOU WILL HEAR A CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC.

[NOISE] I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT THE CURRENT SITUATION IS THERE.

THE 20TH STREET PARKING LOT IS CURRENTLY USED BY STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER TOWN AS A COMMUTER LOT.

THEY DRIVE IN FROM VARIOUS PLACES AND PARK THERE.

YOU CAN GO THERE ALMOST ANY TIME A DAY, AND THERE WILL BE 30, 40, 50 CARS OUT THERE.

WE'VE RUN A COUNT IN THE PAST AND WELL OVER 100 CARS A DAY CURRENTLY COME IN AND OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT.

THAT IS GOING AWAY.

THAT WON'T BE AN ISSUE.

I THINK YOU MIGHT HEAR THAT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO WEST ON 19TH STREET, THEY'LL SWING AROUND AND GO SOUTH ON UNIVERSITY.

THEN WEST ON 20TH AND UP TO BOSTON SO THEY CAN GO WEST ON 19TH STREET.

THAT'LL PROBABLY HAPPEN SOME.

BUT THESE KIDS DO NOT LEAVE GO IN COME AT THE SAME TIME EVERY DAY.

THAT'LL HAPPEN, BUT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THAT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE NOW IS PRETTY HEAVY.

I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE THIS APPLICATION FOR ZONING, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> ANYONE ELSE HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR?

>> HELLO, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, FORGIVE THE NERVOUSNESS.

I HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT PARTIALLY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE TAKE ON SOME OF THE THINGS.

>> PLEASE. [OVERLAPPING] DO GIVE US YOUR NAME.

>> SORRY. ERIC LAMBERT, 3802 33RD.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS GROUP HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY COLLABORATIVE.

THE PROJECT HAS COME A LONG WAY WHEN THE PROJECT FIRST WAS PROPOSED.

IT STARTED WITH, I BELIEVE, THREE-STORY LARGE APARTMENT FULL COMPLEX ON 20TH.

AFTER SOME PUSHBACK, A PREVIOUS DEVELOPER BROUGHT IT DOWN TO TWO-STORY TOWN HOMES, I BELIEVE, WHICH EXISTS IN A LOT OF NICE NEIGHBORHOODS IN LUBBOCK LIKE FINCH TOWNSHIP AND OTHERS.

THEN THE NEWEST DEVELOPER ELIMINATED ALL BUILDING ON 20TH STREET AND CUT OUT TRAFFIC.

IN MY MIND, I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE AND HAVE LISTENED VERY WELL TO RESIDENTS.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE EVERYTHING PERFECT IN THEIR MINDS.

BUT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA THAT I THINK THEY'VE BEEN EVEN MORE COLLABORATIVE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A RECENT PROJECT IN NORTH OVERTON THAT WAS PASSED.

WE ALSO PASSED A PROJECT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TECH STADIUM WITH HOUSES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO IT.

BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS COLLABORATION IN TEXAS TECH ARCHITECTURE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

I APPLAUD TYLER AND HIS TEAM.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT,

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YOU'LL HEAR THINGS LIKE NO STUDENT, NOT ONE.

WILL COME TO TEXAS TECH WITHOUT A CAR. I WAS ONE OF THEM.

BY THE WAY, IT WAS 22 YEARS AGO NOW, WAIT, NO, SORRY, 17 YEARS AGO NOW, AND THAT BUILDING AND THAT LOT WAS COMPLETELY VACANT.

IT STILL SITS THERE.

I'VE DREAMED AND HOPED THAT THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN ASSET FOR TEXAS TECH.

THAT AREA OF LUBBOCK MIGHT SPUR SOME MORE GROWTH ON 19TH AND UNIVERSITY.

IT'LL HELP THE SCHOOL TAX BASE.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD POSITIVES TO THE PROJECT.

I THINK THAT THE TEAM HAS WORKED REALLY HARD.

I THINK THAT SOME OF ALL AND SOME OF THE ZONING BOARD AND EVERYBODY THAT'S COME BEFORE US HAS DONE THE SAME.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKE TO DO BETTER THINGS FOR OUR CITIES.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT EVEN STILL OPPOSE IT, HAVE MADE IT BETTER.

HOPEFULLY, WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PUSH IT FORWARD AND GAIN AN ASSET IN OUR CITY. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

>> WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS IN THE PAST.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER SLIDE REAL QUICK JUST TO ANSWER A FEW OF THESE.

GO BACK TO OUR SITE PLAN.

IT'S A LONG SLIDE SHOW. THAT'S THE WRONG SLIDE.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, HOW DO WE ACCESS GARBAGE COLLECTION FOR THE SITE? AS WAS MENTIONED, THIS IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE SITE FOR PUBLIC.

THIS WILL BE THE ENTRANCE ALSO FOR GARBAGE COLLECTION.

THERE'LL BE A COMPACTOR HERE IN THE PARKING GARAGE SO THE TRASH COLLECTION WILL NOT BE SERVICED BY CITY FACILITIES IN THE ALLEY, IT WILL BE SERVICED HERE INTERNALLY.

ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY NEIGHBORS PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT STUDENTS ARE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO GET INTO THIS PARKING LOT, SOMEWHERE OR ANOTHER.

ONE THING I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND IS THERE'S SEVERAL DRIVEWAYS NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO DEMO THOSE DRIVEWAYS AND BUILD A FENCE AROUND THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY HERE.

THIS WILL BE A CONTROLLED GATE WITH THE KNOCKS BOX FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS ONLY.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON FOR THAT DRIVEWAY.

WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER EXIT POINT FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT PURPOSES ONLY.

THIS IS A TYPICAL THING FOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

WE OFTEN HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT FOR TRUCKS NECESSARY FOR THAT NEED.

ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THE ACCESS TO THAT LOCK.

PEOPLE MENTIONED, WELL, KIDS ARE GOING TO FIND A WAY AND BREAK INTO IT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS FOR THAT, WE'RE GOING TO PREVENT THAT IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PLANNED TO BE THE NORM.

ANOTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS COST TO THE CITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT MAY BE NECESSARY.

THERE MAY BE NEEDS FOR A LARGER SEWER LINE TO SERVE THE SITE.

THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING BUDGETED FOR AND PLANNED FOR BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE DEVELOPER'S EXPENSE.

I'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR PRICING TO LOWER THE UTILITIES, UPGRADE THE WATER IN THE SEWER ON THINGS THAT WE ARE ASSUMING WILL BE NEEDED IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

THOSE THINGS WILL BE BORNE BY THE DEVELOPER.

ANOTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS TRAFFIC STOPPING, TRYING TO QUEUE INTO THIS DRIVEWAY.

ONE THING THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS AT BOSTON, IT'S A CHOKE POINT THERE.

IT NARROWS UP AND AS SOON AS YOU GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION, IT WIDENS OUT WITH THE RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE.

THAT LANE WILL BE FREE AND USED FOR QUEUING IF NEED BE IF THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT COMING IN.

THERE IS AN ACCESS GATE INSIDE OF HERE THAT ALLOWS ONLY FOR A KEY PA THE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE PAID FOR THAT PARKING SERVICE.

THERE IS A WAY TO TURN AROUND IF YOU GET IN AND YOU'RE CONFUSED, YOU CAN STILL TURN AROUND AND LEAVE THE FACILITY.

THERE WILL BE ADEQUATE PARKING BASED OFF OF CODE FOR THE OTHER USES HERE FOR LEASING, FOR GAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

ONE THING THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH TYLER AND THE CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT WAYS TO INCREASE THE PARKING.

THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE BUILDING, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY EXPENSIVE MISTAKES.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THERE ARE MANY NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH ANY PROJECT THAT IS VIABLE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION AND THE VALUE OF THIS AREA.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A VIABLE BANKABLE PROJECT FOR SOMETHING TO BE BUILT,

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AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ONE.

IT'S ADJACENT TO A LARGE HOTEL, WITH THE EXACT ZONING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.

IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO ANOTHER APARTMENT WITH THE EXACT ZONING WE'RE REQUESTING.

THIS APARTMENT AND THIS APARTMENT IN THE TWO FACILITIES TO THE WEST, HAVE ACCESS AND PARKING IN THE ALLEY.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS SITE.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS THAT I FAILED TO MENTION EARLIER.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANYONE ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE OPPOSITION, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF EVERYONE WILL TAKE THEIR SEAT AGAIN.

I'LL CALL US BACK FROM OUR MOMENTARY RECESS, AND WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD, AND NOW I WILL CALL FORWARD ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 6.7.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. AGAIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M TOM PITTS.

I'M AN ATTORNEY HERE AT LUBBOCK.

I LIVE IN 4411 49TH STREET.

I AM REPRESENTING A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO IS ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT.

I WILL GIVE GREAT CREDIT TO THE DEVELOPERS.

IT WAS A GREAT SHOW. LOTS OF STUFF.

BUT THE REALPOLITIK IS SIMPLE.

THERE IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT 315 PARKING SPACES, 580 SOMETHING BEDS AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE MOVING.

IT'S LIKE GETTING IN LINE AT STARBUCKS AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF CARS, PLENTY OF TRAFFIC.

NOW, THE PROBLEM IS, AND AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST TIME, THE ACCESS IS EASY.

COMING DOWN 19TH STREET, FROM WEST TO EAST, YOU DRIVE STRAIGHT IN.

ONCE YOU DECIDE TO LEAVE, THE DILEMMA STARTS, YOU CAN GO EAST ON 19TH TO UNIVERSITY AND MAKE A U TURN, OR YOU CAN TURN RIGHT AND GO DOWN TO 20TH OR 21ST OR 22ND AND ACCESS BOSTON.

I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THEY WILL CLOSE OFF OR NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME DOWN THE ALLAY.

THE ALLEY IS CROOKED, IT'S GOT LOTS OF DUMPSTERS AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AN F 254 WITH A BRUSH CUTTER IS GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING PAST THE DUMPSTERS SAFELY.

NOW, IF WE LOOK AT THIS IN TERMS OF THE OTHER WAYS OF ACCESS, IF A STUDENT IS COMING SOUTH ON UNIVERSITY, IF THEY TURN ONTO 19TH STREET, THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE A U TURN AT BOSTON TO GET IT BACK, AND PROBABLY IN THEIR MIND, ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO GET TO IT.

OTHERWISE, THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN TO 20, WHICH CAN CUT ACROSS TO BOSTON AND MAKE THE COMPLETE CIRCLE TO COME BACK.

NONE OF THOSE ARE EASY OR SIMPLE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WAS THE IDEA OF TRYING TO MAKE IT A CONTEST FOR STUDENTS TO DRIVE TO THIS.

IT IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT SITUATION.

NOW, WITH REGARD TO SOME OF THE OTHER ASPECTS WHICH WERE REALLY WELL PRESENTED, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE RESTRICTION ON ALCOHOL WILL WORK VERY WELL WITH OUR STUDENTS.

I LIVED IN TEXAS FOR TWO DECADES.

I KNOW THE POPULATION, AND I KNOW HOW THINGS REALLY EXIST I THINK IT'S A WELL THOUGHT OUT DESIGN PLAN IN THE WRONG LOCATION, AND I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR. I'M CINDY PRATIS.

I LIVE AT 3118 20TH STREET, AND I JUMPED RIGHT UP HERE SELFISHLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WOULD STILL BE FRESH.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING OUT TIME AND YOUR DAY TO LISTEN TO US THE BEST FOUR WORDS IS I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. I PROMISE.

MY PURPOSE THIS AFTERNOON IS SIMPLY TO CLARIFY HOW WE ARRIVED AT OUR CURRENT SITUATION REGARDING THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OR UDC, AS IT'S BETTER KNOWN.

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THE REAL KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THIS ISSUE LIES IN RECOGNIZING THE CHALLENGES THAT ARISE WITH THE NATURAL TRANSITIONS IN COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP, AND STAFF.

IT'S BECOME CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO BETTER SAFEGUARD INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND ENSURE LONG TERM CONTINUITY.

THIS IS AT THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE UDC.

WE'RE DEALING WITH LONG TERM DOCUMENTS LIKE PLAN LUBBOCK, 2040, WHICH WAS PASSED IN 2018.

NONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO APPROVED IT ARE STILL SERVING.

CRITICALLY, THE KEY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE UDC COMMITTEE WERE NO LONGER HERE WHEN STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO FINALIZE IT AND GET IT PASSED.

BY THAT POINT, FOUR OF OUR SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE NEW.

TO FURTHER ILLUSTRATE MY POINT, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THREE OF OUR LONGEST SERVING COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GETTING READY TO CELEBRATE THEIR THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN MAY.

THIS DISCONNECT IS CRUCIAL TO UNDERSTAND.

I BELIEVE PLAN LUBBOCK 2040 WAS DESIGNED TO BE THE CORNERSTONE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT'S A REALLY PRETTY GOOD LOOKING PLAN.

YOU'LL PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE IT IN YOUR OFFICES.

IT WAS A COSTLY PLAN.

IT WAS HEADED UP BY JOHNS WICKER AND A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VOLUNTEER CITIZENS WHO NOW FEEL IT'S NOT BEEN ADHERED TO.

I BEGAN ATTENDING UDC MEETINGS IN AUGUST OF 2021, UP UNTIL OCTOBER OF 2024.

I WAS COMMITTED OR MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.

I ATTENDED OVER 15 MEETINGS, ENGAGED IN NUMEROUS COMMUNICATIONS VIA EMAIL, TELEPHONE, WITH COUNCIL STAFF AND CONCERNED CITIZENS.

IN FACT, AT MY VERY FIRST OPEN HOUSE FOR THE UDC, I SAT WITH DAN HOPE AND JEFF GRIFFITH, WHO EXPRESSED THEIR OWN CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLAN AND THE PROCESS.

AS THE UDCS CONTRACTED DEADLINE NEARED THE PROCESS ACCELERATED.

WE MADE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO AMEND THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR HDR IS BETTER KNOWN IN ORDER TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH IS WHAT PLAN LUBBOCK 2040 DICTATED, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

FOR EXAMPLE, A SMALL CHIROPRACTIC PRACTICE AT THE CORNER OF 26TH IN BOSTON IS ON A LOT THAT IS LESS THAN A QUARTER ACRE.

IT'S NOW ZONED HDR.

THAT'S A CLEAR MISAPPLICATION.

SIMILARLY, 19TH STREET FROM UNIVERSITY TO BOSTON WAS BROADLY ZONED HDR, INCLUDING A SMALL APARTMENT BUILDING, A HOTEL, AND A BED AND BREAKFAST, NONE OF WHICH FIT HDR.

IT SEEMS IN THE RUSH TO FINALIZE THE UDC, ERRORS WERE MADE BY LUMPING BAD ZONING DESIGNATIONS FROM THE OLD PLAN INTO THE GENERAL BUCKET OF HDR.

THAT TO ME PUTS THE COMPATIBILITY ASPECT OF THIS INTO QUESTION.

DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, NO CITIZEN AMENDMENTS WERE PASSED.

ONLY DEVELOPER AMENDMENTS WERE ADOPTED.

WE WERE ASSURED THESE CHANGES WOULD NOT IMPACT US.

FINALLY IN OCTOBER OF 2024, THE UDC WITH DEVELOPER AMENDMENTS WAS ADOPTED 5-0 WITH THREE OF THOSE VOTES COMING FROM BRAND NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NOW WE'RE FACING THE VERY IMPACTS WE WERE TOLD WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

MOGO HERE WAS JUST TO PROVIDE A CONCISE OVERVIEW OF HOW WE REACHED THIS POINT.

YOUR VOTE IS FOR A ONE CHANGE.

IT'S NOT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT, SIMPLY A ZONE CHANGE.

AS IT STANDS, HDR WILL IMPACT US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR.

WHY IT SEEMS LIKE ONLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT WE WERE HAVING A SIMILAR DISCUSSION.

OH, I SHOULD START WITH MY NAME AND ADDRESS. FORGIVE ME.

RICHARD MURPHY, 2911 20TH STREET.

THERE IS APPEARANCE IS NOT WITHSTANDING, A LOT OF COMMON GROUND HERE.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE 19TH STREET PROPERTIES NEED REDEVELOPMENT.

I FOR ONE, I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT IS GIVEN IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE NATURE OF STUDENT HOUSING, GIVEN THE LOCATION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE AN UNDERSTANDABLE INTEREST IN MAXIMIZING THE NUMBER OF BEDS.

THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS MODEL, AND THAT'S FINE.

THE COMMUNITY HAS AN UNDERSTANDABLE INTEREST IN

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REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BEDS BECAUSE EVERY PROBLEM CONNECTED WITH THIS PROJECT, ESPECIALLY PARKING AND TRAFFIC GETS BETTER AS THE PROJECT GETS SMALLER I'M SURE THAT EVERYONE IS TIRED OF THIS PROCESS DRIVING OUT AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THE PROPERTY.

NOW, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT THERE ARE SOME IN THE COMMUNITY.

I MAY RESEMBLE THIS REMARK WHO JUST CAN'T BE PLEASED, THAT THERE WAS THE OLD DEVELOPER CAME BY.

THEY HAD THEIR PROJECT THEY GOT SHOT DOWN.

NOW THERE'S A WONDERFUL NEW DEVELOPER WHO MAKES A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION, AND THEY SEEM GREAT.

WHY CAN'T YOU SAY YES? WELL, LET'S PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND COMPARE THE PROJECT THAT WAS REJECTED BY THIS COUNCIL FOR BEING TOO BIG.

A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH THE CURRENT ONE.

UP CAMPUS PROJECT HAD 600 BEDS, 514 PARKING SPACES, AND WAS 60 FEET TALL.

IT DID INCLUDE 35 BEDS IN TOWNHOUSES ON 20TH STREET.

BUT OVERWHELMINGLY, THE DOG WAS THE 19TH STREET BUILDING THE TAIL WAS ON 20TH STREET.

PINE CREST CONCEPT PROPOSAL, IT'S NON BINDING CONCEPT PROPOSAL PRESENTED P&Z HAS 584 BEDS AND 315 PARKING SPACES AND IS 65 FEET TALL.

IT IS FAR FROM PLAIN WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF THE PRESSURES THAT WILL BE PLACED UPON IT.

ONE OTHER COMPARISON I'D LIKE TO MAKE.

I WAS CURIOUS, I HAVEN'T DONE AS MUCH RESEARCH AS THE DEVELOPERS, BUT I CALLED THE CARLTON HOUSE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER.

THIS WAS JUST A CONVERSATION.

I WAS NOT LOOKING AT OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS, BUT THESE NUMBERS ARE BROADLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I BELIEVE WERE PRESENTED BY PINECREST.

CARLTON HOUSE HAS 440 BEDS, 420 PARKING SPACES.

THAT'S A 95% RATIO.

THE MANAGER TOLD ME THAT IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT 85% FULL ON PARKING THAT WOULD BE 80% OF BEDS.

WHAT WOULD THAT GET YOU OVER IN PINECREST WITH ITS 584 BEDS? ABOUT 465 PARKING SPACES.

WHERE THE CARS REALLY GOING TO GO?

>> POINTS I'D LIKE TO COVER, AND I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK ABOUT IT.

ONE, A REASON TO REJECT THE HDR ZONING CHANGE.

THE THRUST OF IT IS THAT THE CITY SHOULD AT LEAST FIX THE GLARING ANOMALY RELATING TO PARKING IN THE HDR ZONE BEFORE SHIFTING MORE PROPERTIES TO THE HDR ZONE.

ALSO, SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF WAYS IN WHICH NEAR AS I CAN TELL AND I SPEAK UNDER CORRECTION.

I'M JUST HANGING OUT AT HOME READING THE UDC, DOING MY BEST, WAYS IN WHICH THE PROJECT ACTUALLY IS INCONSISTENT WITH UDC REQUIREMENTS, AND WE'LL NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.

LASTLY, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETIMES SUGGESTED THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS, I AT LEAST WANT TO FLAG A POSSIBILITY FOR GOING FORWARD.

NOW, THE KEY THING ABOUT HDR, AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU KNOW, IS THAT A BUILDER CAN CHOOSE EITHER TO BUILD AN APARTMENT OR VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

IT'S A BIG DEAL TO SHIFT TO VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE APARTMENT IS LIMITED TO 45 FEET.

NOW THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ILLUSION BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD HIGHER WITH SOME MODEST ADDITIONAL SETBACKS.

YOU CAN BUILD A FIVE STORY BUILDING AS AN APARTMENT, BUT YOU GOT 75 FEET IN VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

A CRITICAL DIFFERENCE IS THAT APARTMENTS HAVE 50% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE, WHEREAS THERE IS NO SUCH LIMIT FOR VERTICAL MIXED-USE OTHER THAN WHATEVER THE SETBACKS MAY REQUIRE FOR THE PARTICULAR LOT.

OF MOST IMPORTANCE FOR THE PRESENT DISCUSSION, HOWEVER, IS THE DIFFERENCE IN PARKING.

NOW, THE DEVELOPER HAS EXPLAINED TRUTHFULLY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING HUNDREDS MORE SPACES THAN ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY THE UDC.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE, AND IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE UDC UNDER THE APARTMENT DESIGNATION, AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER TYPES OF DWELLINGS LISTED IN THE TABLE, LIKE FRATERNITIES, SORORITIES, ETC.

THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. WHEREAS, UNDER VERTICAL MIXED-USE, IT'S JUST 0.5 PER DWELLING UNIT OF ANY SIZE.

THAT DWELLING UNIT COULD BE IN EFFICIENCY.

IT COULD BE A FIVE-BEDROOM.

HOW DOES THIS CASH OUT? SUPPOSE THAT YOU HAD A 600-BED UNIT COMPOSED OF 203-BEDROOM DWELLING UNITS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION.

UNDER THE APARTMENT DESIGNATION, YOU NEED 400 PARKING SPACES.

UNDER VERTICAL MIXED-USE, YOU NEED 100.

WITH REGARD TO PINECREST'S NONBINDING CONCEPT PLAN UNDER THE APARTMENT DESIGNATION, I CAN TELL YOU NEED 354 PARKING SPACES, WHEREAS AS THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED, YOU ONLY NEED 108 FOR VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

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IT'D BE ONE THING IF LUBBOCK HAD CHOSEN EXTENSIVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR EVERY TYPE OF DWELLING OR VERY FEW.

THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE, THERE SHOULD BE NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S PARTICULARLY APT IN A PLACE LIKE SAN FRANCISCO OR CHICAGO.

BUT HERE IN WEST TEXAS, WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF BIG PICKUP TRUCKS.

THAT SEEMS VERY HARD TO DEFEND AND MORE TO THE POINT, THE ANOMALY THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VERTICAL MIXED-USE AND APARTMENT IN TERMS OF PARKING, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.

I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT YOU SHOULD FIX THIS BEFORE SHIFTING ZONES TO HDR.

BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS I BELIEVE CINDY POINTED OUT, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE PROJECT, IT'S ONLY A CONCEPT PLAN AT THIS POINT.

THE DEVELOPER EVENTUALLY MAY SELL, ETC.

YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE PROJECT, YOU'RE APPROVING THE ZONE CHANGE AND BY MAKING THIS ZONE CHANGE, YOU ARE SAYING THAT SOMEONE CAN PUT A 75 FOOT TALL BUILDING ON THAT LOT WITH NO LIMIT ON LOT COVERAGE WITH ABSURDLY MINIMAL PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT THE SHIFT TO HDR DOES AT THIS TIME.

I RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT IT NEEDS FIXING.

A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT THE PROJECT ITSELF BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH THE PROJECT IS NOT UP FOR APPROVAL.

THE CONCEPT PLAN ACTUALLY DOES NOT SATISFY UDC REQUIREMENTS.

NOW, I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON HOW TO READ THE UDC, JUST DOING MY BEST HERE.

THEY ARE MAKING USE OF VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

NEAR AS I CAN TELL FROM THE P&Z PRESENTATION, THERE'S ABOUT 375,000 SQUARE FEET COMPOSED OF APARTMENTS, PARKING, AND AMENITIES, ALL THINGS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH RESIDENTIAL USE, AND THERE'S 2,700 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

THAT IS LESS THAN 1% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

NOW, THERE ARE SOME UDC PROVISIONS THAT MAY BE PERTINENT.

THERE'S A UDC PROVISION PROVIDING THAT THE MIXED-USE DISTRICTS PERMIT BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL PRINCIPAL USES IN THE SAME STRUCTURE, AND THE UDC DEFINES PRINCIPAL USE AS THE MAIN ACTIVITY OR COMBINATION OF ACTIVITIES ON A LOT OR IN A STRUCTURE.

NOW, SOME LEGAL ARGUMENTS CAN ONLY BE DECIDED BY AUTHORITY.

ONE SIDE HAS ITS ARGUMENT, THE OTHER SIDE HAS THE OTHER ARGUMENT.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO BE THE PERSON SAYING THAT LESS THAN 1% DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PRINCIPAL OR MAIN USE OF A STRUCTURE.

IT'S NOT A LEGITIMATE INVOCATION OF THE VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

WHAT'S MORE, EVEN IF IT WERE, LET'S SUPPOSE THE DEVELOPER CHANGES PLANS.

WE'LL PUT A BUNCH OF RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY EXPECT VERTICAL MIXED-USE TO LOOK LIKE DRIVING AROUND ANY CITY. YOU'LL SEE A TON OF IT.

FINE. THAT WOULD BE VERTICAL MIXED-USE THEN.

WE STILL GOT A PROBLEM.

IN THE UDC, IN THE SECTION 39.02.005, EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE, I SUPPOSE. IT DID SHOW UP RIGHT.

GOOD. BASE MIXED-USE DISTRICTS.

THIS SECTION SETS FORTH STANDARDS FOR THE MIXED-USE DISTRICTS, ETC, DOWN TO APPLICABILITY.

THE STANDARDS IN THIS SUBSECTION APPLY TO ALL MIXED-USE DISTRICTS.

I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THOSE GENERAL STANDARDS, THEY WOULD MAKE A LIBERTARIAN'S MIND EXPLODE.

THEY ARE EXTRAORDINARILY INTRUSIVE AND RESTRICTIVE.

ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, LIGHTING STANDARDS, PARKING STANDARDS, ETC.

NOW, LET ME BE FORTHRIGHT HERE.

THERE IS I'M SURE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BASED UPON INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF FROM QUITE A WHILE AGO, AS WELL AS JUST OBSERVING HOW THESE EVENTS ARE UNFOLDING.

THE COUNTER ARGUMENT, JUST TO BE FORTHRIGHT, IS THAT NONE OF THESE STANDARDS APPLY TO VERTICAL MIXED-USE BECAUSE VERTICAL MIXED-USE IS A BASE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT RATHER THAN A BASE MIXED-USE DISTRICT.

THAT'S THE ARGUMENT. WELL, TO WHICH I RESPOND, THAT BUSINESS ABOUT APPLICABILITY.

IT DOESN'T SAY THE STANDARDS IN THIS SUBSECTION APPLY TO ALL BASE MIXED-USE DISTRICTS.

IT DOESN'T EVEN SAY THE MIXED-USE DISTRICTS.

IT SAYS ALL MIXED-USE DISTRICTS.

WERE THERE DOUBT ON THE SUBJECT, IF YOU COME THROUGH THE HDR PROVISIONS THEMSELVES, YOU WILL FIND THAT THE HDR LANGUAGE CHARACTERIZES HDR ITSELF AS A MIXED-USE DISTRICT FROM THE PURPOSE PROVISION OF HDR.

MIXED-USE, MID TO HIGH-RISE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IN A MIXED-USE DISTRICT.

THERE ARE JUST A HOST OF STANDARDS THAT WOULD NEED TO APPLY.

NOW, AGAIN, ARGUMENTS, COUNTER ARGUMENTS,

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IT'S A THING ONLY AUTHORITY CAN ULTIMATELY DECIDE.

BUT PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT ALL MEANS ALL.

A THIRD POINT, NOW, THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT THEY DON'T NEED ANY VARIANCE.

WELL, HERE'S ANOTHER PROBLEM.

THE CONCEPT PLAN NEEDS 30 MORE FEET OF REAR SETBACK.

NOW, UNDER HDR, THE REAR SETBACK PROVISIONS DEPEND UPON WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL USE.

IN THE CASE OF RESIDENTIAL USE NEEDS TO BE 50 FEET.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THE DEVELOPER BELIEVES OR HAS BEEN ADVISED THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO A 15-FOOT ALLEY, RATHER THAN TO THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR FACT, I'M SPECULATING.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE DEFINITIONS FROM THE UDC, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN JUST MAKE DO WITH THE ONE FOR ADJACENT.

ADJACENT MEANS NEXT TO, BUT SHALL NOT NECESSARILY MEAN TOUCHING.

I ALSO REFER TO THE DEFINITION FOR ABUTTING.

ABUTTING MEANS TOUCHING.

WHEREAS ADJACENT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN TOUCHING.

YOU CAN BE NEARBY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS SO I LOOKED UP SOME DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS, AND IN THE VERY FIRST DEFINITIONS OF ADJACENT, MERRIAM-WEBSTER AND OXFORD ENGLISH, VERY NEAR SOMETHING ELSE, NEARBY.

IF YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A REASON WHY ADJACENT IS BROADER THAN ABUTTING, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD FIND A BETTER EXAMPLE THAN OUR SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

MOST OF THE 19TH STREET PROPERTY IS ACROSS AN ALLEY FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT ALLEY IS 15 FEET WIDE.

THE OBVIOUS PURPOSE BEHIND THE REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT A HULKING VERTICAL MIXED-USE BUILDING 65 FEET TALL IS AT LEAST 50 FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THAT'S WHY THE WORD ADJACENT IS USED RATHER THAN ABUTTING.

ACROSS AT LEAST THE PORTION THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THEY NEED ANOTHER 30 FEET OF SETBACK.

ACTUALLY, I'D ARGUE, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GO INTO THE GREEN, INTO THE HDR, INTO THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE EVEN AT THAT CORNER, YOU'RE STILL WITHIN THE MEANING OF ADJACENT.

THEY WILL NEED A VARIANCE, AND WE CAN BUILD MORE APARTMENTS AND THAT WILL MAXIMIZE OUR PROFITS IS NOT A LEGAL BASIS FOR A VARIANCE.

OTHERWISE, THERE'D BE NO SUCH THING AS ZONING LAW.

ONE THING TO BEAR IN MIND ON THIS POINT AS WELL.

THERE WERE EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM IN THE AMENDMENT PROCESS, COMMUNITY PROPOSALS TO AMEND THE HDR ZONE.

IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD A VERTICAL MIXED-USE BUILDING LIKE THIS ON THE SAME BLOCK FACE AS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

YOU CAN'T BUILD IT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

YOU CAN'T BUILD IT ACROSS AN ALLEY AND WE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS THIS.

WE WERE TOLD CITY RESPONDED, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

THAT SEEMED WORTH FLAGGING.

NOW, LASTLY, AND I KNOW I'VE USED UP FAR TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, VERY QUICKLY, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT WE NEVER HAVE SOLUTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST SOMETHING.

I HOPE IT'S NOT NAIVE.

CERTAINLY, I'M NOT THE DEVELOPER HERE, BUT A POSSIBILITY FOR EXPLORATION.

WHAT IF WE STOPPED PRETENDING THAT THESE APARTMENT PROPOSALS WEREN'T APARTMENTS.

WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES FOR MAKING SOME STUDENT HOUSING UNDER THE APARTMENT DESIGNATION OF HDR? WELL, YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH SOME ISSUES HERE.

THERE'S A DENSITY LIMIT FOR APARTMENTS, BUT THOSE CAN BE WAIVED VIA SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

UDC SAYS SO.

APARTMENTS CAN GO NO HIGHER THAN 45 FEET? YES, THEY CAN WITH A LITTLE ADDITIONAL SETBACK ON THE SIDE AND REAR.

YOU CAN STILL BUILD YOUR FIVE-STORY BUILDING? THE REAL CONSTRAINT, I THINK, I SPEAK UNDER CORRECTION, IS THAT THERE'S A 50% COVERAGE LIMIT UNDER APARTMENT.

NOW, UNDER THE DEVELOPER'S CURRENT PROPOSAL WANTS TO USE APPROXIMATELY 85% OF THE SURFACE SPACE OF THE 19TH STREET LOTS.

NOW, IT'S TOO BIG BECAUSE OF THE VARIANCE PROBLEM OR THE SETBACK PROBLEM I JUST IDENTIFIED FOR YOU.

FIFTY PERCENT, DO A LITTLE MATH, THE APARTMENT DESIGNATION ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD A FOOTPRINT APPROXIMATELY 60% AS BIG AS THEIR CURRENT PROPOSAL, WHICH IS ILLEGALLY LARGE.

JUST A LITTLE MATH, 60% OF 584 BEDS IS ABOUT 350 BEDS, WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S THE SIZE OF ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH SMALLER THAN THE CARLTON HOUSE, AND IT'S THE SIZE OF, I FORGET, WAS IT IN TENNESSEE? ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS WAS A 350-BED PROJECT.

NOW, IT'S BEEN SAID WE NEED SOMETHING VIABLE FOR THE PROPERTY.

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WELL, IF 350 BEDS OR WHO KNOWS? MAYBE THERE'S SOME DISCRETION SOMEWHERE IN THE CODE THAT COULD LIFT IT A BIT MORE.

IF IT COULD WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE, PERHAPS IT COULD WORK HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND YOUR PATIENCE.

>> I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I FORGOT TO RAISE MY FOOT ONE DAY.

MY NAME IS LAURENT PRATER.

I LIVE AT 3108 20TH STREET.

MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THE PRATER HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1950.

SO WE HAVE BEEN IN AND AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A WHILE.

I'M DISCIPLE OF ROSCOE WILSON AS SHE IS AND J. T. HUTCHINSON.

SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THREE ITEMS, AND I WILL TRY NOT TO BE REPETITIVE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS US IS, OF COURSE, DENSITY. THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THE OTHER ONE THAT CONCERNS US IS TRAFFIC BECAUSE HOW DO I PUT IT THIS WAY? IN RESPECT TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT TESTIFIED, WE'VE GOT TWO IN COLLEGE AND TWO GOING TO COLLEGE IN JUNE.

THEY ALL FOUR HAVE A CAR.

I KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN THOSE CARS, WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL.

BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS, AND I'M SO PROUD THAT THEY MADE THE PARKING LOT GO NORTH BECAUSE THAT HELPS.

BUT THE TRAFFIC COUNT THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO UNIVERSITY, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE 20TH, 21ST OR 22ND EITHER TO BOSTON, FLINT, OR INDIANA BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO WEST, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO A U-TURN AT UNIVERSITY BECAUSE THAT WOULD REALLY BE DANGEROUS.

BUT THERE WILL BE MORE TRAFFIC MOVING DOWN THOSE ROADS THAN NORMAL BECAUSE THEY GOT TO GET THERE SOMEHOW.

THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, IS THE FACT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING ON 19TH AND BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH SPACES, WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM ON 20TH, 21ST, AND 22ND.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. ALREADY HAS SOMEWHAT.

BUT I NEED TO BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, AND I'M SURE CITY MANAGER IS AWARE OF THIS TOO.

UP UNTIL SEPTEMBER, WE USED TO GET THE PARKING DEPARTMENT OR GURU, TWO TIMES A DAY, HE WOULD COME DOWN 20TH, 21ST, 22ND, 23RD, 24TH, AND 25TH BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH DEDICATED PARKING PERMIT, TWO HOURS, EVERYTHING, AND HE WOULD RUN THAT ROUTE TWICE A DAY.

OCTOBER 1 HAD STOPPED, AND WE CHECKED ON THAT WITH SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE PARKING IN FRONT OF US AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN IDENTIFY TO THEM WHAT'S THERE, AND THEN THEY'LL COME TAKE A LOOK.

THAT'S AN ISSUE BECAUSE THOSE THREE OR FOUR STREETS I'M TALKING ABOUT HAVE PERMIT PARKING 8-5 PARKING, TWO-HOUR PARKING.

THAT'S HOW MOST EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO CONTROL IT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.

THEN OTHER THING THAT YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF IS THEY TOOK THE THIRD FAIR STREET OFF OF 22ND.

THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AT SOME POINT JUST GET IN YOUR CAR ABOUT 10 IN THE MORNING AND TWO IN THE AFTERNOON AND MAKE A RUN FROM BOSTON TO UNIVERSITY ON 22ND, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE ALL THOSE CARS ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

I'M NOT AGAINST THE INTENT OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, I DO THINK IT IS NOT A GOOD LOCATION TO HAVE IT.

I WOULD HATE TO HAVE MY HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET AND HAVE HOWEVER MANY NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET OF WHERE I LIVE.

ANYWAY, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO AND YOUR TIME, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH CONSIDERATION FOR ALL, BUT WE REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU ALL WOULD TURN THIS DOWN. THANKS.

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>> MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE ON 2705-21ST STREET.

I LIVED THERE WITH MY FAMILY FOR 20 YEARS.

LOVE TEXAS TECH AND TECH TERRACE IN MY PROFESSION, I'M ALSO AN ARCHITECT AND SOME OF YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY WORK HELPED TO REDESIGN AND REDEVELOP OUR LIST.

I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT ALSO AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE TALLEST BUILDING CURRENTLY IN THE TECH TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD IS STAY BRIDGE, WHICH HAS THREE STORIES.

WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION FROM PINECREST ACTUALLY USING ICONOGRAPHY FROM TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PROMINENT MANSION, SOME OF THEM HISTORICALLY DIGNIFIED ON 19TH STREET.

THE COMPARISONS MADE EARLIER BY PINECREST WERE DIFFERENT HIGH RISES WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE LOWER MID RISES.

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING AT TECH TERRACE.

FIVE STORIES, IN ANY CASE, WOULD BE WAY TOO TALL TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE, THE HISTORY, AND TRADITION OF TECH TERRACE.

SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY MADE REFERENCE TRUE BY WILLIAM BOARD WATKINS, WHO DESIGNED THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING, AT TEXAS TECH, WHICH TWO YEARS AGO EXACTLY WAS 100-YEARS-OLD, IS ONE OF THE MOST DISTINGUISHED BUILDINGS, LITERALLY IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF LUBBOCK, BUT IT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE EDUCATIONAL BUILDING AND DOES NOT HOUSE AT 24/7 BUILDING CULTURE.

FROM THE VERY FIRST PROJECT WAS PRESENTED MORE THAN TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD MOVED DOWN ABOUT 20 BEDS.

THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS RESIDENTIAL TO ABSORB THAT.

AS AN ARCHITECT, AS A PLANNER, I HAVE TO ASK YOU ALL TO REJECT THAT PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ALISA HAMILTON.

I LIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF 21ST DETROIT.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK MR. PALMER AND WE WELCOME HIS EFFORTS TO COMMUNICATE AND APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOPE THAT THAT CONTINUES.

NONETHELESS, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS PROPOSAL THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS BEFORE APPROVING, AND THEY ARE RELATED TO THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS UNDERSTOOD QUITE HOW DENSE THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO BUILD ON THIS LOT.

THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO PUT 584 BEDS THERE, 221 APARTMENT UNITS.

I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE CHANGED TO 216 MR. PALMER MENTIONED TODAY ON A 2.5 ACRE LOT.

THAT IS 234 BEDS PER ACRE OR 88 APARTMENT UNITS PER ACRE.

AS YOU HEARD FROM PROFESSOR MURPHY EARLIER, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD THIS UNDER THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DESIGNATION IN OUR UDC, THIS WOULD LIMIT THEM TO A DENSITY OF 48 APARTMENT UNITS PER ACRE, AND THAT WOULD LIMIT THE BUILDING TO 128 APARTMENT UNITS OR 317 BEDS, OR IN OTHER WORDS, IT'D BE ROUGHLY HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT IT IS AT THE MOMENT.

WHY DOES THIS NOT APPLY? AS AGAIN, MENTIONED BY PROFESSOR MURPHY, IT'S BECAUSE THEY INTEND TO MAKE USE OF THE VERTICAL MIXED USE STANDARD BY INCLUDING SOME SMALL AMOUNT OF RETAIL SPACE, WHICH AMOUNTS TO LESS THAN 1% OF THE TOTAL FLOOR SPACE OF THE BUILDING.

HOW DENSE IS THIS PROPOSAL? I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO COMPARE IT TO SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU MAYBE FAMILIAR WITH.

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO THE VILLAGE AT OVERTON PARK, USING THE ZONING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF LUBBOCK, THE VILLAGE AT OVERTON PARK HAS 116 APARTMENT UNITS, OVER 4.25 ACRES, HAS 27 APARTMENT UNITS PER ACRE.

THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO BUILD AT

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THREE TIMES THE DENSITY OF THE VILLAGE AT OVERTON PARK.

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO CENTER SUITES AT OVERTON.

AGAIN, USING THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF LUBBOCK, THAT'S AT 51 APARTMENT UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S A PINECREST IS PROPOSING A 72% INCREASE IN DENSITY OVER THE CENTER SUITES.

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO 25, 20, AGAIN, USING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO BUILD AT A DENSITY 87% DENSER THAN THE 25, 20 APARTMENT COMPLEX.

THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE DEVELOPER MENTIONED VIABILITY OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS CLEARLY ALL OF THESE PROPOSALS, CLEARLY ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WERE VIABLE AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE BUILT.

COMPARE IT TO CARLTON HOUSE, WHICH WAS BUILT VERY RECENTLY.

IF YOU COMPARE IT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF BEDS PER ACRE, CARLTON HOUSE IS 174 BEDS PER ACRE.

THAT'S THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO BUILD A 34% INCREASE IN DENSITY OVER THAT.

YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO THE U LOFTS APARTMENTS.

IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF BEDS PER ACRE, THAT IS AT LEAST 43% DENSER.

HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WAS BECAUSE THE U LOFTS APARTMENTS ONLY CONSISTS OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

IN FACT, YOU CAN EVEN COMPARE IT TO PARK TOWER.

IF YOU COMPARE IT TO PARK TOWER, THAT CONSISTS OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS.

THE PROPOSAL IS EVEN DENSER THAN PARKED TOWER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL, PARK TOWER IS A 15 STORY BUILDING.

IN CASE I HAVEN'T MADE MY POINT CLEAR, THE DEVELOPER IS JUST TRYING TO PUT TOO MANY PEOPLE INTO THIS BUILDING.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARISE FROM DENSITY, TRYING TO PUT SO MANY PEOPLE INTO A BUILDING? IF YOU TRAVEL UP UNIVERSITY AVENUE, YOU WILL SEE THESE CROSSWALKS CROSSING UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

THEY'RE CALLED HAWK CROSSINGS OR HIGH INTENSITY ACTIVATED CROSSWALKS.

THE CONTROLLED BY A PEDESTRIAN, A PEDESTRIAN COMES UP, PUSHES THIS IS ALLOWED TO CROSS OVER THE ROAD.

IT'S A VERY SHORT PERIOD.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO TRY AND WE ALL KNOW WHY THEY'RE THERE.

THEY TRY AND PREVENT THE RESIDENTS FROM THESE HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOODS FROM CROSSINGS THAT OR JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

NOW, IF WE LOOK AT 19TH AND UNIVERSITY, 19TH AND UNIVERSITY IS A NINE LANE HIGHWAY.

WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THIS IS, IN FACT, THE WIDEST THOROUGHFARE IN THE WHOLE OF LUBBOCK.

I THINK THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO ARISE BY PUTTING SUCH A DENSE COMPLEX INTO THAT POINT, WHICH IS THE WIDEST THOROUGHFARE IN LUBBOCK.

HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO GET ACROSS THE ROAD IF THEY DON'T GO TO THE CROSSINGS? I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT THE COUNCIL REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER.

THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PROBLEM. OF COURSE, HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX IS GOING TO FORCE THE RESIDENTS TO ENTER THE COMPLEX BY MAKING U TURNS OF BOSTON.

BY HAVING THE PAST EXPLAINED HOW THE BOSTON INTERSECTION IS NOT REALLY WELL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THOSE U TURNS.

NOW, AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE REQUEST TO DATE IS TO APPROVE A ZONING CHANGE.

WHAT IS IT THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD ACTUALLY BE AUTHORIZING IF THEY APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST TO DATE? HOW DENSE COULD PINECREST BUILD AN APARTMENT ON THE SITE? IF WE LOOK AT OUR CODE, WE SEE THAT, IN FACT, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE ENTRY HAS BEEN LEFT BLANK.

THAT MEANS THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD AT AN UNLIMITED DENSITY ON SITE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM TRYING TO PUT 800 STUDENTS IN THE BUILDING.

I REALLY THINK THAT SOME SENSIBLE LIMITS ON DENSITY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BEFORE THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO TRY AND AUTHORIZE A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ON ME.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'M SALLY CONROY.

I LIVE AT 2826 22ND STREET.

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED AT THIS HOUSE.

THIS MARCH WILL BE 36 YEARS.

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH GRADUATES OF TEXAS TECH.

WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.

THEY'RE ALL GRADUATES OF TEXAS TECH, AND EVEN ONE OF OUR CHILDREN TAUGHT IN THE MATH DEPARTMENT AT TEXAS TECH.

THAT CHILD IS NATHAN.

WHEN OUR YOUNGEST SON, NATHAN WAS ATTENDING TEXAS TECH, HE HAD AN INCIDENT CROSSING BOSTON AND 19TH.

IT HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 2013.

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OUR SON WAS LEAVING CAMPUS ON BOSTON AND 19TH.

HIS BIKE HAD A FLAT TIRE, SO HE WAS WALKING ACROSS THE CROSSWALK LEGALLY WITH ELECTRONIC PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE.

HE WAS HIT BY A CAR, FLIPPING HIM OVER THE CAR AND TOTALING HIS BIKE.

HAVING A HEAD INJURY, HE HAD BLOOD RUNNING FROM HIS FACE.

OTHER STUDENTS CAME TO HIS AID, AND THEY CALLED THE AMBULANCE AND POLICE.

THE AMBULANCE CAME AND TOOK HIM TO COVENANT HOSPITAL.

AFTER X RAYS AND SUCH, HE WAS RELEASED.

HE HAD EXPERIENCED HEAD TRAUMA BUT WAS GOING TO BE OKAY.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT STORY.

NATHAN SAID THAT CARS TURNING LEFT ON THE CAMPUS ONTO 19TH WERE SO AGGRESSIVE AND OFTEN AGGRESSIVE, I MEAN, THEY SEEMED TO DARE STUDENTS ON THE CROSSWALK TO GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.

NATHAN NEVER SAW THIS CAR COMING.

HE WAS WALKING HIS BIKE, SO HE WAS A BIGGER OBJECT FOR DRIVERS TO SEE.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS ZONING CHANGE FOR THIS BUILDING PROJECT TO HOLD A HIGH DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING WILL BE LOCATED ON 19TH BETWEEN TWO INTERSECTIONS, BOSTON AND UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED STUDENT HOUSING ON 19TH STREET, THERE ARE 10 LANES.

THIS IS IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED STUDENT HOUSING.

IT HAS 10 LANES WITH A THIN MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE.

IF A STUDENT CROSSES 19TH FROM THE PROPOSED HOUSING CENTER, THE STUDENT WOULD CHOOSE BETWEEN UNIVERSITY AVENUE INTERSECTION OR BOSTON INTERSECTION IF HE WANTS TO CROSS LEGALLY.

IF A STUDENT CHOOSES UNIVERSITY AND 19TH TO GO ON CAMPUS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS FIVE LANES.

WITH TRAFFIC GOING STRAIGHT, TWO LEFT TURNING LANES THAT TURN TO NORTHBOUND UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

TWO RIGHT TURNING LANES, ONE ON EACH CORNER.

THAT MEANS A STUDENT HAS TO PASS NINE LANES TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.

ON TOP OF THAT, THIS INTERSECTION IS VERY BUSY AND DANGEROUS INTERSECTION WITH A HIGH ACCIDENT RATE.

IF THE STUDENT CHOOSES BOSTON TO GO ON CAMPUS, THEY'D HAVE TO CROSS FIVE STRAIGHT LANES, ONE LEFT TURNING LANE, ONE RIGHT TURNING LANE.

THAT IS A TOTAL OF SEVEN LANES THE STUDENT WOULD HAVE TO CROSS.

IT WAS MENTIONED SOMEBODY DOING U TURNS THERE, AND THEN YOU HAD THAT.

AFTER MY SON'S EXPERIENCE OF BEING HIT BY A CAR, HE DIDN'T FEEL SAFE CROSSING BOSTON.

SO WENT FURTHER WEST ON 19TH AND CROSSED AT 19TH AT A NON-INTERSECTION.

IN OTHER WORDS, HE JAYWALKED.

I DIDN'T FIND THAT OUT TILL LATER.

[LAUGHTER] BUT ANYWAY, HE SAID HE FELT SAFER CROSSING THAT WAY.

CAN YOU IMAGINE EVEN A PORTION OF STUDENTS OF THIS 584 BED STUDENT HOUSING DOING THE SAME? BOSTON INTERSECTION WOULD HAVE LESS TRAFFIC WHEN MY SON NATHAN ATTENDED TECH.

I BELIEVE THE TEXAS TECH ENROLLMENT AT THAT TIME WAS 28,000-30,000 IN 2013.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS, BUT WHEN LAST TIME I LOOKED, AND IF IT WAS CORRECT, IT'S OVER 41,000.

YOU WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE STUDENTS COMING FROM TECH TERRACE RENTAL HOMES, YOU WOULD ADD MORE POPULATION FROM THIS HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THAT INTERSECTION ON BOSTON.

THERE ARE BUSES PICKING UP STUDENTS AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, BECAUSE OF THE MEDIAN THAT'S IN FRONT OF THEM, THE BUSES WOULD HAVE TO GO EAST TOWARDS DOWN UNIVERSITY AVENUE TO TURN ON TO THE TECH CAMPUS.

MEANING IT WILL NOT BE CONVENIENT, TIME WISE, MAYBE GETTING STUDENTS TO CLASS ON TIME.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE STUDENT'S DESTINATION, TIME MANAGEMENT AND ALL THAT.

SOME STUDENTS ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE BUS OR WANT TO TAKE THE BUS.

IN FACT, WHEN I WENT TO TECH, I DIDN'T TAKE THE BUS ONE TIME.

NO THAT MEANS ANYTHING, BUT I DIDN'T.

SOME STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BRING BIKES, SKATEBOARDS, AND SCOOTERS WHEN THEY COME TO TECH.

SCOOTERS ARE SUPER FAST AND ZIP ACROSS CROSSWALKS MAKING IT HARDER FOR VEHICLES TO SEE.

BY THE DEVELOPER'S OWN WORDS, HE BELIEVES A GOOD PORTION OF NOT BRING CARS WHEN THEY MOVE HERE TO LUBBOCK.

I THINK HE'S UNDERESTIMATING HIS NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WHEN HE'S PROVIDING AT THIS COMPLEX, MAKING IT MORE PARKING TO LIMIT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT IF IT IS ACCURATE, THAT MEANS THEY'LL BE MORE LIKELY THAT THESE STUDENTS WILL BRING BIKES, SCOOTERS, AND SKATEBOARDS.

THIS LOCATION OF THE BUILDING ON 19TH LOCATED BETWEEN UNIVERSITY AND BOSTON, WHICH CONSIDERED HERE TODAY IS UNLIKE HOUSING FOR

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STUDENTS CROSSING THE CAMPUS ON UNIVERSITY AVENUE.

UNIVERSITY AVENUE HAS FEWER LANES TO CROSS.

A SPEED LIMIT IS LOWER, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PEDESTRIAN LIT CROSSWALKS WHERE CARS HAVE TO STOP.

YOU CANNOT PROVIDE THAT FOR A 7-10 LANE CROSSING ON 19TH.

>> WHICH 19TH IS A TRUE TEXAS HIGHWAY.

I HEAR THAT MAY NOT BE LABELED AS A TEXAS HIGHWAY IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE NUMBER OF LANES A STUDENT MUST CROSS.

MY SON WAS STRUCK IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A STUDENT CROSSES AT NIGHT? THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE ON THE CITY BOARD HERE TODAY.

I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS IS A DANGEROUS AND HIGH POPULATION STUDENT HOUSING.

I WOULD THINK A DEVELOPER WOULD KNOW THAT TOO.

I BEG EVERYONE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT I'M SAYING HERE TODAY BY TAKING A CLOSER EXAMINATION OF THIS SITE.

I COULD HAVE LOST MY SON BACK ON NOVEMBER OF 2013 BECAUSE OF AGGRESSIVE DRIVER OR DISTRACTED DRIVER.

I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART THAT IF THIS HIGH DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING IS OKAY AND NO SAFE WAY TO CROSS 19, THERE WILL BE MORE STUDENTS WHO WILL BE HURT OR WORSE.

LIFE CAN CHANGE IN A MOMENT.

TO ME AND TO MANY OTHERS, THIS IS AN OBVIOUS AND SERIOUS PROBLEM AND AND I HOPE THAT YOU SAY NO TO THIS.

THIS IS MY SON.

IT HAS THE TIME AND IT HAS THE DATE AT THE TOP CONFIRMING WHAT I'M SAYING TODAY.

I BROUGHT THESE IF Y'ALL WANT A COPY.

ANYWAY, WE'RE SMILING BECAUSE WE KNOW EVERYTHING'S OKAY.

[NOISE] THERE WAS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE TALKING, BUT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GUEST PARKING, AND I REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE AT, THEY HAD VERY FEW GUEST PARKING AND THERE'S A CAFE THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE AT THE SHOP.

IT WAS RIDICULOUSLY A LITTLE.

I THINK IT WAS I WANT TO SAY 10, IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC.

I DON'T KNOW THAT MAY BE WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.

ANYWAY, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ALSO.

ALSO, IF SOMEONE BUILDS IN SOMETHING AND THEN THEY OWN THIS BUILDING AND THEY SAY, WE'LL DO THIS.

WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN IN-HOUSE GARBAGE.

WE'LL MONITOR THAT ALLEYWAY.

WHAT IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO ANYMORE? WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY SELL IT.

IS IT GOING TO HAVE THOSE SAME PROMISES? ANYWAY, SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.

PLEASE SAY NO. THANK YOU.

[NOISE]

>> MAYOR, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS IVAN NARANJO.

I LIVE AT 2918 WINFIELD AVENUE.

I'M CURRENTLY A THIRD YEAR LAW STUDENT, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ON ME.

I'M FROM AUSTIN ORIGINALLY, BUT MY GRANDPARENTS HAD A HOUSE AND THEY STILL HAVE A HOUSE ON 26 IN AVENUE B. I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE TECH TERRACE AREA.

I WAS THERE ALL THE TIME GROWING UP.

MY COUSINS AND I WOULD GO ACROSS THE STREET, JUST WALK ACROSS THE PARK, ONLY LIKE WHAT? FOUR MINUTES DRIVE FROM TECH TERRACE.

IT WAS A GOOD TIME. BUT I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE GROWING UP THERE AT THAT TIME, WITH A BIG STUDENT DORM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND CARS FROM A BIG STUDENT DORM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, WHIZZING BY AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY, WHEN MY COUSINS AND I ARE JUST TRYING TO WALK TO THE PARK.

LET'S TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC USE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A ZONING ISSUE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF THIS SHOULD GO FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, I THINK PARKING IS OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR CONCERN, [LAUGHTER] 315 SPOTS.

THAT'S A LOT.

THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN NEW SPOTS.

BUT I GUESS NOT 315, BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE 100 NOW RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMUTER LOT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN

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AN AREA WHERE THERE IS NOT USED TO BEING A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

ME PERSONALLY, LIKE I SAID, I'M FROM AUSTIN, AND I'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND TAKING HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AREAS AND CONVERTING THEM FOR USES OF HIGH RESIDENTIAL USE AND THE EFFECTS OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THE CITIZENS SURROUNDING THOSE AREAS.

IT'S NOT FUN. ANOTHER THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS MAKING THIS VERTICAL MIXED USE AS OPPOSED TO BEING AN APARTMENT DESIGNATION.

IS THIS REALLY VERTICAL MIXED USE? I KNOW WE'VE ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CAFE THERE.

BUT ARE ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN TECH TERRACE GOING TO USE THIS CAFE? IS THIS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY MAKING IT MORE VERTICAL MIXED USE THAN IT WOULD BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX? BECAUSE THE WAY IT COMES ACROSS TO ME IS THAT THIS IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND I GUESS, SINCE WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE WHOLE ZONING THING, THIS IS A BIG NOT YELLOW SQUARE, SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF YELLOW.

ANOTHER THING WE'LL TALK ABOUT, [LAUGHTER] BEING A STUDENT, I'LL SAY, I'M 27-YEARS-OLD RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I WAS 18 OR 19, AND I HAD FRIENDS THAT WERE 18 AND 19.

WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE PARKING, 18 AND 19 YEAR OLDS DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RESPECT FOR PARKING TOO OFTEN, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OVERFLOW AND A LOT OF MORE CARS, I GUESS, JUST AMIDST THE NEIGHBORS IN THE TECH TERRACE AREA PARKING ABOUT.

LISTEN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY 18 OR 19 YEAR OLDS AREN'T GREAT DRIVERS, BUT LET'S FACE IT.

A LOT OF THEM HAVE GOTTEN THEIR LICENSES PRETTY RECENTLY, SO IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF YOU GET A COUPLE MORE FENDER BENDERS IN THE AREA AS A RESULT.

BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC.

SOMETHING ELSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT TO ME ARE ZINNIAS, AND ROSES AND CHRYSANTHEMUMS. THESE ARE ALL FLOWERS THAT REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT OF SUNLIGHT, AND WHEN YOU TAKE A 60 FOOT STRUCTURE, THAT COULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 75 FEET, THAT CASTS A PRETTY LARGE SHADOW ON THE AREAS SURROUNDING.

LET'S SAY YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER, RIGHT BY THIS THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, I'LL CITE BACK TO MY FIRST YEAR PROPERTY COURSE.

THERE'S A THING CALLED NUISANCE, WHICH IS THE DEPRIVATION OF YOUR USE AND ENJOYMENT OF YOUR PROPERTY.

TO ME, IF MY ZINNIAS HAS GOT COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF THE DORM, BLOCK THE SUN, I THINK THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE AS A DEPRIVATION OF THE USE AND ENJOYMENT OF MY PROPERTY.

I WOULDN'T BE TOO HAPPY.

I ALSO AM NOT TOO HAPPY BECAUSE I LOVE CAFE J.

THEY'RE CHICKEN FRIED STEAKS TO DIE FOR.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT AGAINST TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

I'M A TEXAS TECH STUDENT.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT POTENTIAL FOR A FANTASTIC PROJECT.

BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER, IS THIS PROJECT WHERE IT'S LOCATED REALLY IN THE BEST OF LUBBOCK INTERESTS? IT'S NOT JUST TECH TERRACE.

IS THIS REALLY IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE HEART OF LUBBOCK? THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY PROSPEROUS AND VERY BEAUTIFUL DORM.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A POOL, IT'S GOING TO HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL SORTS OF PRETTY AMENITIES.

BUT IS THAT REALLY LUBBOCK? DOES THAT MATCH WITH WHAT SURROUNDING FAMILIES WITH THEIR HOUSES, THEIR BACK YARDS, THEIR DOGS? TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE I GO TO J AND B ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME IS THAT HOUSES SURROUNDING THERE, TO SEE THIS GIANT BOTH METAPHORICAL AND LITERAL SHADOW, JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH OF ME.

I DON'T KNOW. IT TICKLES ME IN THE WRONG WAY.

I'M NOT FROM TECH TERRACE.

I DON'T LIVE THERE.

BUT WHAT I'LL SAY IS THAT I HOPE YOU ALL WILL

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LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO AND THE PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

THEY HAVE FAMILIES. THEY HAVE KIDS.

THERE ARE REAL TRAFFIC DANGERS, BOTH WITH CARS AND HUMAN TRAFFIC.

IT'S NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENCE.

THIS IS A POTENTIAL LIABILITY.

WE JUST HEARD THE STATEMENT ABOUT A STUDENT WHO IS TRAGICALLY INJURED IN A TERRIBLE CAR ACCIDENT.

IF WE HAVE SO MANY OF THESE CARS COMING IN THIS AREA, WE'VE GOT TO THINK NOT JUST ABOUT THE STUDENTS WHO ARE AT RISK, WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE LAND OWNERS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE AT RISK.

WE'VE GOT TO THINK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS, ALL THESE MAJOR CONCERNS.

I GUESS, ALL IN ALL, THINK IS THIS IN THE BEST OF LUBBOCK AND ITS CITIZENS? I REALLY HOPE AT THE END OF IT, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE ZONING THING, AT THE BARE MINIMUM, THIS IS A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, FOLKS. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] I LIVE AT 3008 26 STREET.

I APPRECIATE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO AND MY COMPLIMENTS TO MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO FOR THE CITY.

ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT A FORM LIKE THIS IS THAT IT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO ARTICULATE THEIR CONCERNS AND HOPES AND DREAMS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THESE ARE SOUNDS LIKE FATUOUS COMMENTS FROM A GUY THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS SOME SELF SERVING AGENDA.

WELL, THE SELF SERVING AGENDA IS [NOISE] THAT I WANT THE SAME THING YOU DO.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUSTAIN WHERE I GREW UP.

I DIDN'T GROW UP HERE, BUT I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN.

HOW MANY OF YOU GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN? ANYBODY HERE? ANYBODY? THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN STILL FIND IT.

PEOPLE COME OUT OF THEIR HOUSES, LOOK AROUND, SEE A NEIGHBOR.

SOMEBODY IS RIDING BY IN A BICYCLE, NOT IN THEIR CAR NECESSARILY, HEADING DOWN TO THE PLAZA, GETTING A CUP OF COFFEE, GETTING SOME GROCERIES, TAKING A WALK AROUND ONE OF TWO PARKS, ONE OF WHICH PROBABLY IS ONE OF THE MOST VISITED PARKS IN VOLUME IN THE CITY.

IT'S SMALL TOWN AMERICA.

IT'S FABULOUS.

THERE'S A SAYING IN THE MEDICAL PROFESSION, DO NO HARM.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF LEGAL THINGS, A LOT OF ISSUES, SERIOUS THINGS, BUT THERE'S ETHICS TO BE CONSIDERED.

ETHICS THAT FILL IN THE GAPS OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

ETHICS COMPEL US TO GO THE EXTRA MILE TO SEE IF SUCH A PROJECT LIKE THIS, ACTUALLY IS AN EMERGENCY TO SAVE TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY FROM OBLIVION FOR THE LACK OF HOUSING.

NOW, I OVERBLOW THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'VE HEARD THE GREAT PRESENTATION FROM THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THE PROJECT TO BE OR HOPE TO BE, AND IT'LL BE GREAT.

IT'LL BE WONDERFUL. IT'LL HELP ACADEMIA ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND INFERRING TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY OUT OF A HOUSING JAM. YES, WE NEED IT.

WE NEED IT FOR THE STUDENTS.

THEY NEED A PLACE TO LIVE.

RAP WITHIN THAT DIALECTIC IS THE HOPE AND DREAM THAT YOU WILL BELIEVE THERE'S A HOUSING SHORTAGE. THERE'S NOT.

IN FACT, THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS ON BOARD AT TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY, BUT TEXAS TECH EARLY ON, HAS STOOD BACK AND SAID, THEY'RE NOT GETTING INVOLVED, THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY PRONOUNCEMENTS.

EVERYBODY IS ON THEIR OWN ON THIS, AND JUSTIFIABLY SO.

WHAT DO THE NUMBERS SAY? YOU'VE SEEN ALL THE NUMBERS FROM BOTH SIDES.

BY AND LARGE, WE ARE IN TERMS OF STUDENT POPULATION, AND A YOYO.

FAULTS BIG, SPRING, IT RECEDES A LITTLE BIT.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF STEADY GROWTH, BUT IN THE LONG HAUL, THE WORD ON CAMPUS AND I WORK THERE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING REMOTE. IT'S VIRTUAL.

THEY'RE EVEN GOING COMPRESSED CLASSES, EIGHT WEEK WONDERS TO GET YOUR ENTIRE COLLEGE DEGREE DONE.

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THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LIVE HERE.

FIGURE THAT INTO THE EQUATION.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THINKING OF ALL THESE THINGS, BUT THE PROMOTERS OF THIS PROJECT ARE TELLING HOW MUCH THEY ARE ADDRESSING ALL THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS, WHETHER THEY ARE REAL OR NOT.

SO I NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AND DEMANDS.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, THAT'S THE THING THAT I KNOW WORKING AT TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO STEP OUTSIDE THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR DUTY AND YOUR JOBS AND SAY, IS THIS PROJECT A GOOD FIT IN TERMS OF ITS SIZE AND ITS MAGNITUDE? ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE MENTIONED WILLIAM WARD WATKIN, WHO BUILT THE CORE OF TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY IN ARCHITECTURAL SPLENDID DESIGN.

CENTRAL CORE, THE KEY, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, THE ENGINEERING KEY, AND ALL OF THAT.

STUPENDOUS. SPACE, SPACE, SPACE, OPEN SPACES.

WHAT DO WE HAVE OUT HERE IN WEST TEXAS? WE LOOK OUT AND WE TELL PEOPLE, COME ON OUT HERE.

LET'S GO OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.

TELL ME, CAN YOU SEE THAT IN MASSACHUSETTS? WE BRAG ON IT.

WE BUILD IT AT TEXAS TECH.

WE HAVE PARKS THAT REFLECT IT.

WE HAVE MORE PARKS PER CAPITA THAN ANY OTHER MAJOR CITY OUR SIZE IN THE COUNTRY. SPACE.

>> I THINK WE, IN THIS PROJECT, ARE FORGETTING THAT.

ELO URBANOVSKY, ONE OF THE SUCCESSOR PROFESSORS AT TECH, BUILT ON THAT TRADITION.

HE WAS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND SUSTAINED IT WITH THOSE OPEN SPACES EVERYWHERE.

NOW, HAS THERE BEEN CREEP? YES, THEY PUT A DORM BUILDING HERE AND ANOTHER ONE HERE.

THEY TOOK UP A PLACE WHERE KIDS USED TO PLAY SOCCER AND CRICKET.

YES, UNDERSTAND PROGRESS, BUT MAINTAIN THE SPACE BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THE HEARTBEAT OF LIFE AND A COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS IT IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

SORRY, I USED TO BE A PROFESSOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> I'M A VERY SHORT PERSON NOW.

I'M SHRINKING IN OLD AGE.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER JARED ATKINSON, YOU'VE SEEN ME AT MANY MEETINGS BEFORE.

I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF.

I SENT A VERY LONG EMAIL NOTE, ALBEIT WITH SEVERAL ERRORS BECAUSE I'M UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE.

I SHOULD BE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON A PRESENTATION TO PRESENT IN HOUSTON ON FRIDAY.

BUT MY FATHER, WHO GREW UP IN POVERTY AND WHO BOOTSTRAPPED IT IN THE MILITARY TO BECOME A FULL COLONEL TOLD ME, "IF YOU DON'T STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT OR FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN TO BE A VOICE IN DEMOCRACY, THEN YOU'RE NOT PERFORMING YOUR ROLE AS A HUMAN BEING, PARTICULARLY IN OUR COUNTRY." ANYWAY, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BUILDING, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE EFFORT AND THE COMMUNICATION OF THIS NEW DESIGN TEAM.

BUT I AM AN ART MAJOR, I'M AN ART EDUCATOR.

I SEE THAT BUILDING AND I THINK OF THE MONKEYS LOOKING AT THE MONOLITH IN THIS 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY.

THIS HUGE THING OUT OF SCALE TO THOSE SMALL LITTLE CREATURES.

THIS BUILDING SCALE IS NOT CONGRUENT WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA.

THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHEN I HEAR THE PRESENTATION THAT THIS BUILDING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT.

WE HAVE A HOTEL, WE HAVE AN APARTMENT BUILDING, WE HAVE MANSIONS, NONE ARE OVER THREE STORIES HIGH.

THEY STAY WITHIN THE HUMAN SCALE.

THERE IS SPACE AROUND THOSE BUILDINGS.

I ALSO AM A MENTOR TO STUDENTS.

I DO NOT OBJECT TO STUDENT HOUSING, BUT WHEN YOU PACK IN DENSITY THAT MANY STUDENTS INTO ONE SMALL SPACE, YOU AREN'T CREATING A COMMUNITY, YOU'RE CREATING A PROFIT-MAKING MACHINE.

THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

TECH TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MARVELOUS MIXED DEMOGRAPHICS.

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THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO BUY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE LOVE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE FAMILIES, THERE ARE STUDENTS, THERE ARE ELDERS, THERE'S A BLIND MAN WHO LIVES DOWN THE STREET FROM ME, SO I'M ALWAYS CALLING LPD, TOO PLEASE COME AND ASK THIS PARTICULAR GIANT PICKUP TRUCK TO BE MOVED OFF THE SIDEWALK SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT AVENUE CLEAR FOR OUR STUDENTS WALKING TO ROSCOE WILSON, FOR THAT BLIND MAN, FOR OUR ELDERS, SANDY, WHO LIVES ONE BLOCK OVER, WHO'S ON A WALKER.

THAT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S A COMMUNITY WHEN PEOPLE CARE.

STUDENTS PACKED INTO A HIGH-DENSITY BUILDING DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR A FACT BECAUSE WHEN I WAS A PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, AS I MENTIONED IN MY LETTER, I GOT AN AWFUL LOT OF STUDENTS OFF OF SCHOLASTIC PROBATION.

THAT'S BECAUSE NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, I ADVISED THEM TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WHERE THEY WERE SURROUNDED BY CHAOTIC NOISE, DOORS SLAMMING, SOAP OPERAS RIGHT DOWN THE HALL.

THEY COULDN'T FOCUS ON THEIR STUDIES AT ALL.

BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED WITH THEIR SAFETY.

IF YOU PUT 700 STUDENTS IN THIS ONE LITTLE BLOCK OR 500 BEDS, AS IT HAS BEEN SAID NOW, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, TEXAS TECH WORKERS TIME THEIR MOVEMENTS ON AND OFF CAMPUS TO DRIVE THERE BASED ON THE ROTATION OF CLASS SCHEDULES.

BECAUSE THEY KNOW ON TUESDAY, THURSDAY, MOST CLASSES, I BELIEVE, ARE ON THE HOUR, WHEREAS ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, THEY'RE ON THE HALF HOUR, SO YOU DON'T TRY TO LEAVE THE CAMPUS DURING THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU KNOW STUDENTS ARE TRANSITIONING BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OVER THE STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HIT THEM.

IMAGINE ON THOSE TIME SCHEDULES, THE STUDENTS IN THAT BUILDING WILL RELATIVELY BE FOLLOWING A TEXAS TECH ACADEMIC SCHEDULE AND THEY'LL ALL BE TRYING TO CROSS 19TH STREET AT RELATIVELY THE SAME TIME.

NOW, I KNOW WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS AN APPROVAL OF WHETHER OR NOT TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

I LEAVE THAT DECISION UP TO YOU, BUT ONCE THAT DOORS OPEN, IT CREATES AN AWFUL DIRE PROSPECT THAT IN THE FUTURE, OTHER PROPERTY INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS WILL SEE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IF THEY JUST PARLAY FOR TIME AND BUY ENOUGH PROPERTIES ON ONE BLOCK, THEN THEY CAN COMBINE THEM ALL AND ASK FOR A ZONING CHANGE AND PUT ANOTHER HIGH RISE DENSITY HOUSING PROJECT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

BEFORE LONG, AS THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME DESCRIBED AT UT AUSTIN, WE NOW HAVE DOWN STATE ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, A DEMOGRAPHIC GHETTO OF HIGH-DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING THAT COMPLETELY REPLACED THE VERY CHARMING NEIGHBORHOOD I USED TO WALK THROUGH TO GET OFF THE BUS AND GO TO CAMPUS.

THEY BOUGHT UP ALL THAT PROPERTY, THEY RAISED IT AND THEY PUT UP HIGH-DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING.

CAROL HENDERSON, WHO JUST RETIRED FROM THE HARRY RANSOM CENTER DOWN STATE, TOOK PICTURES OF THAT AREA FOR ME AND SAID THE STUDENTS DON'T FEEL SAFE AT NIGHT, THERE'S NOBODY ON THEIR PORCH, THERE'S NOBODY KEEPING AN EYE OUT ON ZONING INFRACTIONS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR MURDERS IN THAT AREA AT NIGHT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.

>> HONORABLE MAYOR, HONORABLE MEMBERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.

I AM ROGER SETTLER, ALMOST A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC BROADWAY CORRIDOR AT 2120 BROADWAY.

I REPRESENT THE CONGRESS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH ARE 10 NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS WHO HAVE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN TECH TERRACE AND OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.

I WOULD SUBMIT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THE WORDS OF A GREAT PLAYWRIGHT, WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, WHO MANY CENTURIES AGO WROTE THAT THERE IS A TIDE IN THE AFFAIRS OF MEN WHICH HAVE TAKEN AT THE FLOOD LEADS ON TO FORTUNE.

BUT IF ABANDONED, ALL IS SHALLOWS AND MISERIES.

THERE IS A GREAT TIDE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IN OUR SOCIETY AND WORLDWIDE, A TIDE OF POPULISM, THAT IS SWEEPING THE WORLD.

THIS POPULISM HAS AS ONE OF ITS INTEGRAL COMPONENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVISM, THE REALIZATION THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE AND WORK IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY FEEL SAFE AND IN WHICH THEY HAVE AN INTEREST.

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SADLY, HERE IN LUBBOCK, WE HAVEN'T TRANSLATED THESE POPULIST PRINCIPLES INTO EFFECT.

RATHER, WE HAVE A CABAL OF DEVELOPERS WHO SEEM INTENT ON IMPOSING ON THE COMMUNITY ABSENTEE OWNERSHIP AND ARTIFICIALLY STIMULATED GROWTH WITH TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES.

THE RESULT OF THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS GOING TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATION.

MY COLLEAGUES LIKE CLYD JAMES AND I'M FROM HISTORIC OVERTON, CAN TELL YOU A LONG, SAD TALE OF NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATION.

BEGINNING WITH THE INSERTION OF APARTMENTS ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS IN THE 1960S, THE CLOSURE OF CAROL THOMPSON ELEMENTARY AND JUNIOR HIGH IN THE 1980S AND THE RESULTING NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATION.

THE DEVELOPER'S PLAYBOOK IS VERY SIMPLE.

FIRST, YOU CLOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE SPEAK.

WHEN YOU CLOSE A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL, YOU'RE GOING TO FORCE YOUNG FAMILIES TO MOVE OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS WILL RESULT IN FURTHER NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATION.

THE END RESULT WILL BE WHAT WE SEE IN HISTORIC OVERTON, 90% ABSENTEE OWNERSHIP.

IF YOU LOOK AT OVERTON NORTH, WHICH I SUBMIT TO YOU IS A FUTURE SLUM AND YES, THAT WILL SHOCK SOME PEOPLE, BUT IT IS A FUTURE SLUM.

BELIEVE ME, I LIVE ON BROADWAY, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

WHY IS IT A FUTURE SLUM? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE MULTI-STORY UNITS, WHICH I MIGHT ADD, NONE OF THEM ARE ABOVE FOUR STORIES EXCEPT THE [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTURE, THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THOSE HAVE FLIPPED THE PROPERTIES TO OUT-OF-TOWN OWNERS.

THESE OUT-OF-TOWN OWNERS, ABSENTEE OWNERSHIP, THEY SIMPLY DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTIES THE WAY THE ORIGINAL OWNERS AND BUILDERS DID.

THE RESULT IS NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATION AND WHEN YOU GET THAT, YOU HAVE ALL THE ATTENDANT PROBLEMS OF CONGESTION, CRIME, WHICH WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.

IF YOU LIVE AT OVERTON, YOU SEE EVIDENCES OF THIS EVERY DAY.

IT'S A SAD THING.

I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT WHATEVER THE MERITS OF THIS PROJECT MAY BE, IT IS BASED ON TWO FAULTY PARADIGMS. THE FIRST PARADIGM IS THIS CONGESTION.

WHEN I FIRST MET THE LATE TED HOGAN SR. HE AND I WERE DOWN AT THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE 1960S.

I WAS A YOUNG STUDENT.

YES, CAN YOU IMAGINE IN THE 1960S, LONG TIME AGO? WELL, WE WERE FIGHTING THE INSERTION OF APARTMENT HOUSES ON THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.

THEY WOULD TAKE A SINGLE-FAMILY LOT AND PUT FIVE OR TEN UNITS ON IT.

ALWAYS WITH THE PROMISE, OH, THIS WON'T AFFECT YOUR PARKING, WRONG.

IT DID AFFECT PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD CAUSE DETERIORATION OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THAT IS A FAULTY PARADIGM, AND THIS PROJECT, WITH ITS INCREDIBLE DENSITY, TAKING A FEW LOTS ON 19TH STREET AND PUTTING 500 STUDENTS INTO THAT AREA, IS THAT TYPE OF CONGESTION THAT WE FOUGHT FOR 50 YEARS IN OVERTON.

THE SECOND QUALITY PARADIGM IS ASSUMING THAT STUDENTS ARE PERIPATETIC, THAT MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE CARS.

I BELONG TO A FRATERNITY.

WE HAVE OVER 100 MEMBERS IN OUR LOCAL CHAPTER.

GUESS HOW MANY OF THEM OWN A VEHICLE.

ALMOST 100%.

FOURTEEN OF THEM OWN TWO VEHICLES.

THE QUALITY PARADIGM THAT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO USE A 50% RULE OF THUMB, PARKING SPACES TO UNITS ARE BEDS, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK, FOLKS.

TECH STUDENTS COME HERE FROM DISTANT PLACES AND WE HAVE TO FACE THE FACT, LUBBOCK IS A REMOTE COMMUNITY.

WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT IS 300 MILES REMOVED FROM OTHER POPULATION CENTERS.

AS SUCH, OUR REMOTENESS NECESSITATES THAT STUDENTS WHO COME HERE TO TEXAS TECH, MANY OF THEM FROM THE DALLAS AREA OR THE HOUSTON AREA, NEED CARS TO COME HERE.

THEY NEED TRUCKS TO MOVE THEIR BELONGINGS, AND THEY WILL KEEP EITHER OWNERSHIP OR USE OF THOSE VEHICLES DURING THEIR TIME AT TECH AND THEY WILL FLOOD INTO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, DETERIORATING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

TEXAS TECH IS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE TECH TERRACE ON ITS SOUTHERN PERIMETER.

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TECH TERRACE IS THE JEWEL OF LUBBOCK NEIGHBORHOODS.

A LOT OF IMPORTANT PEOPLE LIVE THERE, PROFESSIONALS, PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE COMMUNITY.

INDEED, EVEN MEMBERS OF OUR OWN COUNCIL TO WHICH I SPEAK, LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS A TREASURE.

I'M FRANKLY STUNNED THAT THE DEVELOPER CABAL HAS CHOSEN TO GO AFTER TECH TERRACE IN THIS FASHION.

THEY WENT AFTER OVERTON LONG AGO AND WE KNOW THAT FIGHT.

I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT GO AFTER HEART OF LUBBOCK, GUADALUPE, JACKSON AND, BELIEVE ME, THESE ARE IN THE PLANS.

BUT GOING AFTER TECH TERRACE, WHAT A STRANGE THING AND A SAD THING.

WHEN I WENT TO LONDON, I WENT TO THE GREAT ST PAUL'S CATHEDRAL AND I READ A PLAQUE TO SIR CHRISTOPHER WREN WHO BUILT A CATHEDRAL, AND ON IT WERE INSCRIBED THE WORDS SI MONUMENTUM REQUIRIS, CIRCUMSPICE.

IF YOU SEEK HIS MONUMENT, LOOK AROUND YOU.

IT SADDENS ME TO THINK THAT GEORGE HARDBERGER, KEN ABRAHAM, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WANT THEIR LEGACY TO BE A HIGH-DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING PROJECT.

REALLY? IS THIS THE LEGACY YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE FOLKS? I THINK NOT.

AS I CONCLUDE, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT TO STAND AND SHOW YOUR OPPOSITION.

AS YOU SEE, JUST AS WE HAD IN OVERTON A FEW MONTHS AGO, THERE IS A LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT.

I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK IN YOUR HEARTS, JUST DO THE RIGHT THING AND JUST SAY NO TO THIS TERRIBLY INAPPROPRIATE PROJECT. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KAY OVERLEY.

I LIVE AT 2515 22ND, AND I'M NOT GOING TO REHASH OVER EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.

I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID, AND I ASK YOU TO DENY THIS CHANGE IN ZONING.

BUT SHOULD IT SURVIVE TO THE SECOND READING, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA TO PERFORM SOME STUDY TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, AND TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE PASSING IT COMPLETELY.

THAT IS MY REQUEST IN THE ALTERNATIVE OF DENYING THE ZONING APPLICATION.

>> GO AHEAD. YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE PREPARED THAN I'M.

I'M TERESA GREER, AND I LIVE AT 2517 22ND STREET.

I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1995, AND WE PROBABLY HAD TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THERE THAT HAVE BECOME EVEN WORSE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

22ND STREET HAS BECOME A FEEDER STREET OFF OF UNIVERSITY.

I WAS ABLE TO GET PARKING, FOR 8:00-5:00 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT NOT ON THE NORTH.

AS YOU'VE HEARD, AS PEOPLE GO ON DOWN 22ND STREET, THEY HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS PERMITTING CARS TO BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AND KNOWING THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, MY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1936.

OUR STREETS ARE VERY NARROW WHERE WE LIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE STREETS LIKE SOME OF THE PLACES IN TANGLEWOOD OR RUSH.

WHEN YOU HAVE A VEHICLE ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET, THEN WHOEVER IS COMING DOWN THAT STREET IS GOING TO HAVE TO PULL OVER TO LET SOMEBODY ELSE THROUGH.

ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS NOW.

IF WE ADD 500 MORE STUDENTS, AND JUST LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, THEY'RE GOING TO COME WITH CARS, THE BIGGEST MAJORITY OF THEM.

WE REALLY ARE JUST ASKING FOR YOU TO, CONSIDER, LOOK AT WHAT OUR PREDICAMENT IS NOW.

MAYBE WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO SOMETHING BEING THERE, BUT JUST NOT US HAVING A ZONING CHANGE TO ENABLE ANY OF THIS TO GO ON.

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ONCE THE ZONING IS PASSED, THEN WHY SHOULD THEY FEEL ANY NEED TO NEGOTIATE WITH TECH TERRACE OR ANYBODY ELSE? ALL I'M ASKING IS YOU TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

>> CYD SEIDEMAN, 3202 20TH STREET.

MOTHER LIVES STILL AT 2709 25TH STREET, HAS SINCE 1963 WHEN WE MOVED HERE.

WE DO VALUE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW YOU'RE ALL VERY TIRED OF HEARING THAT, BUT TECH TERRACE IS THE ONLY SECURE RESIDENTIAL ANCHOR TO TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

YOU LOOK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, WHICH LOST 100% OF ITS RESIDENTIAL ANCHORS.

IT'S DANGEROUS TO GET TO AND FROM THAT CAMPUS, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL CAMPUS AND A WONDERFUL UNIVERSITY.

THAT IS ONE FEAR THAT I HAVE AND BELIEVE IT'S VALID.

I AGREE WITH 100%, THERE ARE PEOPLE MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAN I'M.

TWO FEARS I HAVE.

THINK OF PARK TOWER.

MY GRANDPARENTS' HOME WAS TORN DOWN IN ORDER TO BUILD PARK TOWER MANY YEARS AGO.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER RECOVERED.

NOW, THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS OBVIOUSLY INVOLVED IN THAT PART OF TOWN BECAUSE WE MOVED SOUTHWEST.

TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT NEVER RECOVERED.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PARK TOWER IS RIGHT NOW, BUT MY FEAR IS, IT MAY ALREADY BE A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT WHEN APARTMENT COMPLEX, STUDENT HOUSING, WHATEVER, GETS BUILT, PRIVATE LIKE THAT, IF ON THE FIRST OR SECOND OR THIRD TIME THEY TRY TO SELL IT, DOESN'T SELL, THAT'S A VALID OPTION FOR IT TO GO INTO A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO APPLY FOR THAT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS.

IT BECOMES LOW-INCOME HOUSING.

ALL METRICS AND STANDARDS APPLY TO IT.

BUT, IT IS NO LONGER A TAXABLE ENTITY TO THE CITY, SO ANY FINANCIAL BONUS THAT THIS PROPERTY EVER HAD IS NOW LOST TO EVERYONE.

THAT IS A FEAR I HAVE.

I THINK OF PARK TOWER STANDING STARK, AND STRANGE, SO LARGE COMPARED TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT WERE AROUND, IT AND IT'S DISTURBING FOR ME TO EVEN SEE IT DOWN AVENUE Q, WHICH IS WHERE I SPENT A LOT OF MY EARLY CHILDHOOD.

THAT IS A REAL AND VALID CONCERN WITH THE PROPERTY THAT'S SO OUT OF SCALE TO EVERYTHING ELSE.

THE SECOND THING, ANYTHING WE TALK ABOUT PARKING, WE DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN PARKING.

WE MEAN THE CONGESTION; AND THE UNPLEASANTNESS OF LIVING SOMEWHERE, THAT HAS ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGED FOR EVERY ONE OF US RAPIDLY AND IN OUR CASE, WITHOUT MERIT.

WE'RE NOT INVESTING IN A PROPERTY WE'RE GOING TO SELL IN 3-5 YEARS, WHICH 100% OF THEIR PROPERTIES DO, ANY DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS DOES.

THEY'RE HELD FOR THAT FIRST SALE WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR 12-20%.

DEVELOPER GETS A BIG WATERFALL.

THE OWNER GETS A NICE CHUNK OF CHANGE.

AFTER THAT, NOBODY CARES.

THEY'LL HAVE A SECOND AND THIRD AND EVENTUALLY DETERIORATES, WHETHER IT'S IN 12-15 YEARS OR 30-40.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AND TO HAVE THAT IN YOUR BRAINS AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING A ZONING TO AN APPLICATION OF ZONING THAT IS RADICALLY OUT OF SCALE WITH OUR POOR LITTLE ONE SQUARE MILE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD FURTHER IN OPPOSITION.

ONE OF THE, DRAWBACKS OF HAVING ME AS YOUR MAYOR IS I DRINK A LOT OF COFFEE, AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF BEING A MAYOR IS I CAN CALL A RECESS WHENEVER I WANT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER BRIEF RECESS BEFORE WE COME BACK, SO WE ARE ALL FOCUSED ON OUR DISCUSSION HERE. WE'RE BACK.

I DON'T HAVE A MIC. DO I HAVE A MIC HERE? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER PEOPLE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, I WILL NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:50, AND WE WILL MOVE ON.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, ITEM NUMBER 6.7? I GOT A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND?

>> SECOND. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

ANYONE WISHING TO BE HEARD ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. MR. HARRIS?

>> YES. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND EXPRESSING YOUR TRUE FEELINGS ABOUT TECH TERRACE.

BUT I CAME TO THIS COUNCIL TO TRY TO MAKE THIS CITY A BETTER PLACE TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

LUBBOCK TO ME, HAS JUST BEEN SITTING ON THE BACK BURNER OF EVERYTHING.

ME PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD, AS A CITY.

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ME PERSONALLY, LUBBOCK, TEXAS IS 50 YEARS BEHIND WHEN YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES.

WE NEED TO GROW.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR KIDS, THEIR FUTURE.

I JUST THOUGHT I'LL EXPRESS THAT TO YOU ALL TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S THE REASON WHY I SIT ON THIS COUNCIL, IS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. HARRIS. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MR. GLASHEEN.

>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT TODAY, AND I THINK WE ALL CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DO BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY THIS ZONE CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD THING OVERALL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP AS A RESULT OF THE PROJECT.

IF WE NEED TO INCREASE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OR CHANGE RESIDENT-ONLY PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT THAT WE MAKE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS HERE AT THIS POINT.

I THINK MOST EVERYBODY WHO HAS SPOKEN TODAY UNDERSTANDS THIS IS A DECISION ABOUT CHANGING ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

WE ALL ARE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE AND WE ALL ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO USE OUR PROPERTY TO ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE AS FAR AS WHAT WE SEE THAT AS A PROPERTY OWNER.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY, THERE'S GOING TO BE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING BECAUSE IT'S EMPTY AT THIS MOMENT.

SOMETHING WILL EVENTUALLY GO THERE, WHETHER IT'S STUDENT HOUSING OF THIS DENSITY OR STUDENT HOUSING OF A LOWER DENSITY.

BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO BE STUDENT HOUSING AS WELL.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM TEXAS TECH, AND TEXAS TECH IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

I WOULD DISTINGUISH THIS FROM SOMETHING LIKE PARK TOWER.

TEXAS TECH IS A CONSTANT IN OUR CITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, AND IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED MOST LIKELY AS STUDENT HOUSING.

BUT OUR ZONING EXISTS TO PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

OUR ZONING EXISTS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT ARE BUILT ON PROPERTY ARE APPROPRIATE, NEXT TO WHATEVER THEY'RE ADJACENT TO.

YOU HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, YOU HAVE LOW-DENSITY RESIDENCE, THEN YOU HAVE A HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS ZONING CHANGE, WILL THAT RESULT IN? OBVIOUSLY, IT WILL RESULT IN A GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY.

I THINK WE AS THE CITY LOOK AT THAT AS GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS TAXES ARE CONCERNED.

JUST PURELY AS A BUDGETARY ITEM FOR THE CITY, IT WILL BRING IN TAXES FOR US.

IF WE JUST LOOKED AT IT ON THAT BASIS ALONE, WE COULD SEE THAT AS A GOOD THING.

BUT OUR ZONING EXISTS.

WHEN YOU LIVE IN A CITY, YOU DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED RIGHTS TO USE YOUR PROPERTY ANYWAY THAT YOU WANT.

THESE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I THINK COME INTO PLAY AS WE TRY TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, AND IT'S BALANCING ALL THOSE INTERESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS BUILT IS APPROPRIATE.

SOME OF YOU TALKED TODAY ABOUT, AMENDMENTS TO THE UDC THAT WERE PROPOSED BY THE TECH TERRACE GROUP.

I SUPPORTED THOSE AMENDMENTS.

I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN APPROPRIATE, WAY HAD WE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TIME, TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES THROUGH OUR UDC AND THEN WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE WITH THIS ISSUE TODAY HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT THAT WASN'T THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME TO DO SO.

I THINK THAT ISSUE IS STILL THERE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH, IS WE HAVE A UDC THAT ALLOWS SOMETHING IN A HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE, THAT I BELIEVE IS NOT REALLY PROPERLY DESIGNED TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, THAT'S THE UDC WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

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THE PROPOSAL THAT'S COME FORWARD FROM MR. PERLMUTTER AND HIS GROUP COMPORTS WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UDC AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

I THINK HE'S DONE A WONDERFUL JOB.

HE HASN'T ADDRESSED EVERYTHING WOULD BE MY CONCERN, BUT MOST OF WHAT HE'S TRIED TO DO WITH HIS PROPOSAL, ACTUALLY, IN MANY WAYS, REFLECTS WHAT MY CONCERNS WERE ABOUT THE PROBLEMATIC ISSUES OF THE UDC AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF WHY IF THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD UNITS THAT HOUSE 380, 440 STUDENTS.

THIS ONE HAS TO BE, FOR ALMOST 600 STUDENTS ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

BUT I FIGURE HE'S DONE HIS BEST WORK ON THIS IN ATTEMPTING TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR HIM, BUT ALSO ADDRESS AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY ISSUE HERE IS REALLY WITH THE UDC.

IT'S NOT WITH MR. PERLMUTTER AND HIS PROJECT.

IT'S WITH THE UDC AS IT EXISTS.

I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

I WISH IT HAD BEEN ADDRESSED EARLIER, IT HAS NOT, AND SO NOW HERE WE SIT.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, THOSE ARE MY ISSUES.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS MATTER? THEN IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE, AND I BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE A RECORDED VOTE ON THIS.

CAN YOU BRING THAT UP, JIMMY? TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE THAT IS REQUIRED ON THIS ISSUE, SO IT REQUIRES SIX VOTES.

IT PASSES SIX WITH ONE ABSTENTION.

THAT CONCLUDES THIS MATTER? THERE ARE NO FURTHER OTHER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH TODAY.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.